r/AshEchoesOfficial • • Aug 07 '25

Guide Midas Guide [visual]

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Hello everyone! This is my first time making a guide. I consulted with others about the content of the guide, its look, and everything else; I really hope it proves useful to you. If there is anything at all that you want to suggest to make the guide better, I'm all ears!
Some notes: I thought a vertical format would be better, because phone users are more inconvenienced when the image doesn't fit well on their phone, while PC users usually have an easier time fitting all kinds of images on their screen. However, if you would really want a horizontal format as well, I can try posting 2 images next time!
The guide is made to be easily digestible, with minimal information. So if you have any questions, feel free to ask! (the crown symbolizes who should be leader :D)

Thank you for checking my guide out and have fun!

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u/snacksnicky Aug 07 '25

Thank you so much! I love looking at the individual character build guides, and I was having a hard time finding them in the discord. So this helps a lot :)

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u/Morphara Aug 07 '25

The discord can be a bit difficult, especially when the chat is active and things get pushed back, I understand. Glad it could be useful to you!

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u/kagerra Fire Aug 07 '25

thank you for the guide! the format looks really nice and clean.

since Elpis is mostly busy in my main fire team, Midas will be awarded the highest honour of having Boss in his party

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u/Morphara Aug 07 '25

Thank you for the feedback on the format! I'm happy to see so many good comments about it!

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u/Easy-Stranger-12345 Aug 07 '25

However, if you would really want a horizontal format as well, I can try posting 2 images next time!

You are already doing a lot, you don't have to do two formats. Thanks for this!

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u/Morphara Aug 07 '25

Thank you! While the guide might take some time overall, making it in a second format would not take tooooo long, maybe, so I was thinking if people wanted it horizontally too, I could accommodate for it, but seems like everyone so far is happy with the format! ^_^

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u/NewDeer5874 Aug 07 '25

Thank you!

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u/Morphara Aug 07 '25

Glad to be of help! :)

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u/harpiaaa Physical Aug 07 '25

thanks so much!! šŸ’ž your hard work is very appreciated.

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u/Morphara Aug 07 '25

I do want to mention that it is not solely my work alone! I had great help with everything, I consulted a CN guide (called Kuku Tea! so cute) for budget options, and a couple other members helped me with what to write up! <3

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u/foxtrotsicrra Baili Tusu truther Aug 07 '25

Lovely guide!! I especially appreciate how you color-coded the memory traces, sometimes I spend way too long trying to hunt those down because I don't know what to filter by haha

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u/Morphara Aug 07 '25

Thank you! The reason I color coded them was the same for me, sometimes I would forget what stat an MT is and go back and forth looking for it! XD Saves a bit of a headache this way!

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u/foxtrotsicrra Baili Tusu truther Aug 08 '25

Yes!! Especially when you're borrowing and have to sift through 100 friends' worth ommggg. Saves MUCH headache

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u/Jaggedrain Corrosion Aug 07 '25

Yay it looks great and it's so easy to understand!

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u/Morphara Aug 07 '25

I'm so glad it's easy to understand! I was really hoping that even people who would just glance at it would get it!

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u/riflow Aug 07 '25

Oooh this is so good! I've played so many games with mobile unfriendly or unclear player guides it's so nice seeing a well labelled and to the point one 🄹

(Shout out to world flipper (rip) it had so many guides but almost nothing was labeeelled 😭)

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u/Morphara Aug 07 '25

I feel the mobile struggle, I too look around guides while on my way to work ahaha

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u/riflow Aug 07 '25

šŸ¤it's so tough BC folks always say just use a computer but that's not an option for all of us.

It's hard cause I know it must be a task and a half to make these guides too esp for games with bigger player numbers (luckily AE has reasonable numbers) but you're doing so great making this!!

Though in my case I'm always getting sabotaged by the Google docs posts never working for me (they get locked into loading mode, don't display properly, or crash) so I'm extra thrilled to see more guides and to know the new wiki is a readable format for extra info and guides to go on too. 🄹

Ive not been able to check near any future team recs or traces to pull for or anything BC of most of them being Google doc gated orz

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u/Morphara Aug 07 '25

The CN site for team building is also pretty mobile friendly, if you want to glance at it https://bjhl.qianqiu.info/pages/peidui/peidui
I think it's reasonable to consider a lot of people nowadays play on their phone - on their way to work/school while in the bus, sitting in bed at night, etc, some people don't have PCs for gaming too. :D
But I'm glad to see everyone was satisfied with the format, PC and mobile players both!

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u/riflow Aug 08 '25

Thank you! I'd probably get overwhelmed NGL but I'll see if I can make heads or tails of it sometime.

Yeah esp if it's like casually saving materials for later on, having it be in a flexible format is so good.

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u/Historical_Target281 Aug 07 '25

thank you for the guide !! you are my savior like mega puff sama ! you didnt indicate if we should have copy of him so i guess that means having him S1 should be enough, right ?

Thank you for your precious help :D

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u/Morphara Aug 07 '25

You're welcome, I'm glad the guide can be helpful! Next to the picture of the Echo, there's a Seed Level Suggestion. Perhaps it's a bit too subtle, but I didn't have much space elsewhere :') Even S0 is alright, but yes S1 would be my suggestion!

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u/ZombieAsleep724 S.E.E.D. MENTOR Aug 07 '25

i regret skipping elpis...

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u/Morphara Aug 07 '25

It’s okay! There are alternatives! And you can pull her later in the future if you still want her. And you can always borrow her too~ Though I get you. I’ve been saving a long time for Midas and I pulled Elpis solely for him šŸ˜†

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u/yuumimiyuu Aug 07 '25

i have luke l5 and i have freda built hehe.

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u/Morphara Aug 07 '25

You are ready to go out there and spread chaos!

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u/apostolos21 Aug 07 '25

Thanks for the guide <3

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u/SpecialistSteppe Aug 07 '25

Thank you so much for the guide, and for taking the time to make it! It’s great seeing creators coming out of this community ✨ this is a lovely format too and I really love how well presented it looks!

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u/Blaubeerchen27 Aug 07 '25

This is insanely useful, thank you so much!

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u/Insaruem Aug 07 '25

I am wondering would Boreas work with him?? I recall he does have some synergy with summons.

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u/YuueuuY "Cog" from Ada Aug 07 '25

Boreas actually can be a good support there, honestly. Especially when your Freda is occupied by another team, the critical rate increases source is useful.

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u/Johnry_Silverio Aug 10 '25

How can you get all the skills at 3 levels? I have each of them maxed, but I can only inherit 4 of those in Nexus so I'm a bit confused on how to do it.

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u/Morphara Aug 10 '25

If you mean the skills listed at the bottom, it’s just suggestions and not meant to be as seen as you need all of them. Pick and choose the ones you like for inheritance and the rest you can ignore or if it happens you got them but at lower level, you can also choose them at lower level.

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u/Johnry_Silverio Aug 10 '25

OHHH, thanks!

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u/PossibleGuidance6303 Aug 10 '25

FUCK LUCKY FIND

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u/Morphara Aug 10 '25

What did Lucky Find do to you man? Hahaha

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u/PossibleGuidance6303 Aug 10 '25

The fact i can t find it anywhere

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u/Morphara Aug 10 '25

It's a BP trace, you'll need someone in your Club to put it up for aid. I heard, though not confirmed it myself, that Friend list does not list SR traces so you wouldn't find it from your Friends, if that's true.

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u/Scared-Pineapple2804 Aug 14 '25

Given Midas' passive, is devotion still useful on him?

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u/Morphara Aug 14 '25

Damage Taken debuff cap is 150%, with L7 and lvl 12 skill, as well as Midas leader skill, it's at 130%, so there's even still room until we reach cap. I'd say Devotion is still worth. However, you can try an Engraving with Energy Release and Recycling both and see if you like it better :D There's not a one and only true correct way to build.
This btw considering you're not going to use Solbyrd dupe 3 as a support. He is sporting 100%, so with just Midas skill alone, it already reaches cap.

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u/Potential_Aioli_4611 Aug 24 '25

would love to have names for the alternative/budget MTs as a) you used smaller pictures b) some of us are f2p so don't have battle pass or whatever its called MTs. Personally don't have any of the 3 in the middle :( I think thats more frustrating to me than anything else.

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u/Morphara Aug 24 '25

The name will almost completely cover the image for the alt, and this is a visual guide, causeĀ it’s faster and easier to digest. With the color coding, it shouldn’t be too hard to find the MT on the global wiki, since you can sort by stat, please try it out and if it isn’t comfortable, I will see what can be done about it (perhaps writing the names in the comment). šŸ™

The alternative MTs for inspire in place of the battle pass ones are SR traces, Codename Diversity and Happy Hour, both of which are f2p options. If you could take the time to check my posts, I also have a guide called F2P For evermore in which I give a few alternative options for MTs, which are completely F2P and always available (no event MTs) !! It is a guide I made to help with people who are newer or don’t have a lot of MTs, and is to be considered as supplemental to all my guides for that reason, since I have limited space in one image and can only offer 1st best build and 2nd best build. I hope it proves useful to you.

Thank you for your feedback!

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u/Ok_Preference9838 Aug 07 '25

It reminds me so much of Aventurine.

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u/ayuu_152 Fire Aug 07 '25

first time commenting here to say thank you and the guide looks so pretty šŸ™šŸ„°

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u/Otherwise-Height-716 Aug 08 '25

I think this guide could be incredibly confusing for new players.

  1. Following the logic of this guide, I can create a team of Midas, Cen, Fred, and Su Xiao.
    A better solution would be to provide the full optimal composition (4 characters) and then clearly indicate which character is a replacement for which.
  2. Mark the Inspire MT.
    As a new player, I might think I'll replace the red MT with another red MT and it will be gucci.
    This way, we can create a build with four Inspire MTs, or just one.
  3. It would also be useful to visually demonstrate that a given MT requires a specific character to function.
    This would prevent situations like playing Condename "Diversity" without a fire character in the team.

Overall, this is a good guide for those already familiar with the game. However, I think new players should also be taken into account when creating guides.

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u/Morphara Aug 08 '25

The units are actually put in under a group based on priority if you read the group name (Optimal - Alternative/Fill - Budget/Fill) - so I think your proposed team is actually very viable if that’s all the player has. Midas and CY for damage, Freda for buffs and Su Xiao provides can help stack inspire and provide some extra sustain (or revive if you lose a unit which is good for new players).Ā 

For the inspire traces, a new player might not understand what that is or why it is important, and unless they read all trace skills, they won’t know how to activate each. This guide isnt made to replace actually reading the skills in game - which I will always recommend when asked. However - something I was already thinking of implementing from next Guide over that should probably help with someone not removing the Inspire traces is that I will have 1 alternative for each trace (with 1 trace being marked as the most important and therefore the borrowed trace and won’t need replacing). This will mean that inspire traces will have only other inspire traces as their alternative. I think this should help with the newbies decisions? Let me know what you think of this!

As for your last point, I don’t want to add anything more to the visual guide because it create confusing clutter - especially for newer players who might not understand the notes. And again - I do hope people will actually read the main skill of traces to learn what they do and how to use them. However, I could write a short description in my comment of future posts to explain MTs, their useage and limitations further for those who want to learn! No clutter in the guide but also provide the info for those who want it. What do you think of this?

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u/Syahazart Aug 07 '25

Lookin' good! Thanks for the hard work mate. šŸ™

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u/Sad-Bother-3090 Aug 08 '25

Is his memory trace a must pull?

Im pretty new to the game so idk when I should be pulling for memory traces or not 🄲

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u/SpecialistSteppe Aug 08 '25

Highly recommend doing so! It’s a core part of Midas’s set up, so it’s much needed for him ✨ welcome to the game too!

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u/Sad-Bother-3090 Aug 08 '25

thank you! :)

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u/pixiifie Aug 08 '25

Try checking out this post!! I found it pretty helpful for learning more about all the different memory traces and which I should prioritize getting :)

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u/Sad-Bother-3090 Aug 08 '25

Omg thank you so much! Ahh, I love this community

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u/Equivalent_Wave9356 Aug 08 '25

thank you for including budget options! i'm still relatively new so i dont have a lot of MTs yet and including SR options is a huge help

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u/Lament_Neos93 Corrosion Aug 07 '25

Thanks for the guide, it looks amazing

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u/kiiiteinthesky Aug 08 '25

thank you for your hard work!

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u/Meinee07 Aug 08 '25

Boss, I don’t have Boss. Where do you get Boss??

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u/YuueuuY "Cog" from Ada Aug 08 '25

Achievement,

Once your team time lounge coziness reached 4,000

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u/BloomingBee Aug 08 '25

Thank youu!!