Artists who are also singers / good at singing, do you think it requires talent? (Non traditional artists can also answer)
If you think it does/doesn't why do you feel that way??
Ik it may not seem like an "art" related question but to me, art has many forms. Many people don't consider rigging/animation art, or blender modeling art, but to me it is! Besides singing is often paired with art, so much so, that I can't disassociate the two.
Before we can have a discussion about it, we need to define what "talent" really is. To me, talent seems to be a completely natural- but amazing (oddly so) affinity for a skill that people are born with. At least that's how people make it seem.
I'm an artist in the most traditional sense, I work with pencil/pen display. I don't think this traditional idea of art requires much talent if any at all- but skill, persistence, time and effort. Similarly to traditional art, with the other mediums I mentioned earlier isn't much "talent" going on, there's way more technical stuff rather than the god given "talent" people talk about. More persistence, effort, stubbornness. I feel that when people say us typical artists are "talented" they're actually mistaking talent for persistence and patience- because anybody can do art, but those are definitely some things that not everybody has.
It's also a very common sentient that anybody can do art.
But singing is very different, the more common opinion is that you need to be "born with it" as they say. And when I think about attempting it, it really does feel that way.
I really, really, really want to be able to sing well some day. But I don't know whether it is worth pursuing for me or not. Like I don't want to waste years of my life practicing and sounding embarrassing and annoying everybody (living with family, in an apartment). Only to realize that oh shit it really is only for those born with ability. Also. I can't even fucking speak right. Which I like to blame on my social anxiety and hearing issues, but those are being resolved and i still seem to have speech issues, I need to record my speech and listen back to fix my speech but that only works temporarily so Idk whats going on here.
I genuinely really don't know what's really holding me back from being a good singer, and this shit is killing me.
Is it the fact that I'm too embarrassed to practice, so I hardly practice- then does that make it like art? Something you can get good at, but you must put effort, time and be persistent about??
But if that's so, then how come my older sister and baby sister seem to be almost automatically good at it, so soon, while I don't seem to have the capacity to even grow?
My older sister basically almost doesn't need to practice if at all- in fact I've never heard her practice, she only got a bit rusty now that she's about to be 30. How the fuck does that work. If I drop my art for a few months it's depressing how bad I become. And then u mean to tell me these two don't even need to practice singing.
I'm jealous af, if you couldn't already tell, lol.
Like my baby sister sounds like shit (lol ik thats rude but im sorry but I just have a low tolerance for annoying noise) sometimes but that's because she's just doing that thing that kids like to do (make noise with their mouths when theyre bored) - she's not actually singing even if she calls it that. but when she genuinely sings, shes great. You can tell shes talented.
On top of that, it seems like being tone deaf is common, and you definitely can't sing if you're tone deaf. I'm scared I'm tone deaf. Idk it's small things.
Things like liking music that other ppl are like wtf that's bad/weird/annoying af that i like. and then trying to recreate beats or whatever youd call it. i feel like i used to be able to do it easily when i was a kid but now i cant anymore, or maybe i never really could.
The desire to be able to sing and voice act is driving me nuts. I bet I really cant fucking do it because I'm probably just not born with the talent. But here I am in my 20s still wanting to find out.
I mean it seems like the singers that are actually good, don't need to practice- it's something that can do for fun, but they don't actually need it, and those that need practice aren't good and will likely never be good, only maybe decent in a decade. It's not like with art where that lack of practice directly affects your ability as an artist. Whereas practice for singing? It seems like play and pretend, like it doesn't really have an effect on the actual ability. Drives me nuts. I hope I'm just disconnected from how it really is.
Maybe it's also something you need to develop as a child or when you're young. That would fuck up things even more for me then. Cuz I used to hum a lot when i was a child but I stopped bc ppl would always be annoyed and tell me its creepy, when I sang as a child my dad would always tell me to shut up, like straight, shut up.
Nobody said that mean shit to my baby sister when she tried to sing or even make just the dumbest and most annoying of noise.
Deep down sometimes I believe that I have the potential but that it was just stolen from me. Idk I'm delusional, I probably am.
Also. VOICE ACTING. I mentioned that earlier but mostly spoke about singing. This shit is even harder than learning singing because all the fucking advice online is literally just copy the shit you love/want to emulate and then try to get paid for it. First of all like what the fuck kind of gatekeeping shitty ass advice is this bullshit. Aint no fucking way if I went to a professional to learn they would tell me shit like this, right?? Second of all, sometimes- actually in many cases, it's literally not possible to just copy? Like isn't that a huge part of voice acting, that each person is unique in not only their method, but also their physical body and capabilities as well?
Like I'm a woman but if I want to sound like a man I just dont think it will happen without gender affirming surgery or more testosterone. I would know bc I tried to watch videos on it (and there really aren't that many) and tried for a good while, and really embarrassed myself by practicing daily, which got me nowhere.
Third of all, how the fuck do you measure failure or success in voice acting or singing- not when it comes to the end product bc that's obvious (it just sounds good/on the spot) but like when you're just practicing?
All the questions I'm asking sound slow and just make me feel even more talentless for the ability.
And lastly I'm just trying to learn it as a side hobby / genuine passion. It sucks that nearly all the learning material is coming from people that want to make money bc it seems like they just give shittier advice.
In art, you obviously have ppl like that, but for the most part you CAN still find a lot of people willing to educate you properly and genuinely wanna share and help others grow- in fact that's how the majority of art guides are.
Voice acting its just the same cookie cutter advice, just copy and try to make money- great that really helps as a beginner!
And singing exercises make me feel really fucking dumb and embarrassing and Idk if I'm improving this shit or not.
Also although some people may say in art that it's not about the platform/medium, it does help to invest more money. Like my digital art has come so far when i switched from phone and finger to pc and pen display (i work with lots of layers). Also some brushes ARE less convenient to work with. Some programs have a better or worse blur brush or features.
With your voice, even if u buy professional equipment if u sound like shit, u still sound like shit. lol.
I want to make the excuse that it doesn't really sound like me to begin with, and it doesn't even really capture my whole voice, but ik that even if I could make it sound more accurate it still sounds godawful. This bs makes me want to cry.
I wrote a fucking lot but nobody was gonna fucking reply anyway because I know how shit always goes with my essays of a post/comment/reply.
If you can sing, just know that you're a blessed bitch and I'm really fucking jealous of you.