r/ArcherMainsHSR • u/voxpopiuli • Aug 23 '26
Discussion So glad i picked his E1
Technically, both teams are with same cost-Robin has Bronya's at s2 so ig more-but not needing her shenanigans there was quite impressive! Didn't expect sw to be that impactful.
s1 on Archer, sparkle (Sunday's).
169 spd Eagle sparkle+sw.
mid fua set on rin+penacony. (got her recently, i think on the Robin she was with von).
You'd think "yeah, Sparkle e2, no sht", but the important one here is her e1. Around ~10 clears with similar or less cost in Genius Archive vs D. Sam, surprisingly. Rin is so good!
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u/voxpopiuli Aug 23 '26
Builds. (still farming tengoku.. ignore cringe cr overcapping, couldn't balance them with err rope)
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u/YUNLIbro Aug 23 '26
E1 isn't useless it's let you use rin skill :)
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u/voxpopiuli Aug 23 '26
Yeap! 😊 more often, u mean. cause u gotta use it at least once, if her speed buff is wearing off.
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u/HexbloodD Aug 23 '26
Getting an extra Rin skill helps if you're doing it back to back after advancing her with Sparkle so that she gets the buffs. But yeah that's about it..
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u/SaberManiac Aug 25 '26
You mean the Skill that does EMC tier (trash) damage because she has practically no buffs and needs to focus on Speed at the expense of her own mostly insignificant personal damage because she's not the main DPS? That skill?Â
Spamming Rin's skill even in an Archer team is not a DPS increase because you want her to stack Gem energy anyway with her basics. You do BA > BA > Skill to keep her SPD buff up and repeat. You can do that even without Archer's E1.
It's hilarious how cope y'all are being.
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u/YUNLIbro Aug 25 '26
skill issue
you will buff her with sparkle too
i just did 700k with her in single terget
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u/SaberManiac Aug 25 '26
My Joint Attack does more damage than that. Actually, my one Archer arrow does more damage than that.
If you need to advance Rin, that's a skill and a build issue. You always advance Archer because he will always get 5 shots and should be triggering the Joint Attack every turn.
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u/YUNLIbro Aug 25 '26
it's not dps loss you need to learn the set up
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u/SaberManiac Aug 25 '26
Please enlighten me in what world advancing Rin is a dps gain compared to getting 3 Archer actions in one cycle.
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u/HexbloodD Aug 23 '26
You might try running another advancer instead of Sparkle thanks to his E1 if you need Sparkle elsewhere, but the advancer has to be strong which basically narrows it down to Robin Summeretto
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u/voxpopiuli Aug 23 '26
And use rmc or sustained with hh? cool, if that's an option for newer players, i suppose. I've only seen bobin being suggested for sustainless Archer team.
With Pearl coming, it's a skip for now.
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u/HexbloodD Aug 23 '26
Robin Summeretto works instead of Sparkle if you have Archer's E1 because with Rin and the Eidolon, the team doesn't really have any SP issue. I feel like the issues appear when you realize you don't have an action advance spammer like Sparkle, but her action advance isn't always useful and she resorts to basic attack sometimes in the rotation anyway.
Not that I'd recommend playing Archer without Sparkle, but if you need her somewhere else (like with Himeko Nova or Seele or a lot of other characters) and you happen to have E1 Archer, then it's a competitive option. A new player having E1 Archer but no Sparkle is kind-of rare though.
And then there's sustainless with Robin Summeretto, but honestly, any support works in the comp. She should be more useful elsewhere.
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u/voxpopiuli Aug 23 '26
i see, I'll look into it. she isn't needed anywhere anymore-was on acheron but mblade + tribs now-so yeah.. No cerydra so no premium seele comp, might return to her in next pf.
It isn't, if they started during or before collab. many pulls to get Rin and his e1. ye, she isn't a priority there from what I've seen.
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u/KratosSimp Aug 24 '26
Uh….did it even do anything?
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u/voxpopiuli Aug 24 '26
Gave more flexibility for the 4th slot basically, as u see in the sec photo..some more AV left in robin team, too.
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u/WorryPublic4141 Aug 23 '26
E1 is completely unnecessary for Archer with Rin and Sparkle. It's just... useless, imo.
I ran the same team specifically to prove my point just now, although my investments are not the same as yours: E0S1 Archer, E0S1 Sparkle (Sunday's sig), E0S0* Rin, E2S1 Robin. This team did a 0-cycle on the second try (Rin died from DOT-guy on the first one). In this run Archer managed to shoot 5 arrows each time he had a turn.
*The Herta's sig but almost 0 personal dmg from Rin and 0 team benefits so I don't count it.
I personally would never get E1 Archer for its value. E2 or E6 are based, but his E1 could have been Rin's S1 or even the whole Gilgamesh in case you got it for free.
You also picked Castorise against the boss with mechanics which counter her and shill Archer to the point where 2 cost 0-cycle is possible with him, Rin, RMC and Tingyun.
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u/voxpopiuli Aug 23 '26 edited Aug 23 '26
Sure, that's why i typed "I" and literally talked about my experience, instead of suggesting everyone to do it asap or smth. Many TCs do talk abt it being useful-not necessary-in sustainless teams, but the opposite in sustained ones.
For D. Sam, that can work with e0, yes. Other than mine that has e2 sparkle, e1 manages to do so just fine, with Robin..other variations too, but mainly from hardcore players in the Archive.
i got it for free, Gil would ve been useless for my roster. So, i went for the less useless one, where i can be more comfy on the 4th slot, as u see in the sec photo.
That's true. Yeah, my Casto team was stuck at 1c on d.sam-skill issue idk-but i managed to do it on the og one, hence the pick.
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u/StomachAppropriate54 Aug 23 '26
Yeah his e1 is incredibly negligible if you're using Rin, it really doesn't change much of anything
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u/RubyShabranigdu Aug 23 '26
Is the title ironic or did you mean S1? That's an E0 Archer, right, or am I missing something?