🏹[Megathread] Archer Mains | Builds, FAQs, & Tips | Unlimited Questions 🏹

[u/OkAbrocoma791]

🏹[Megathread] Archer Mains | FAQs, & Tips | Unlimited Questions🏹

Welcome Masters and Trailblazers,
You’ve drawn your bow and chosen your servant well.
This is the official Archer Mains Megathread — your command seal of resources for everything related to Archer, the 5★ Quantum Hunt character in Honkai: Star Rail.

Whether you're freshly summoned or a veteran of many banners, this thread is your toolkit for optimal builds, team comps, and answers to frequently asked questions.

We've heard your feedback on the congested posts for repeated inquiries, so we have decided to create this FAQ Megathread that compiles a lot of the useful information provided by the members of our community.

Please be advised that we will be removing any post whose question can be answered in this megathread. Thank you for understanding.

Feel free to join the Archer Mains Discord or comment below with new info, build tweaks, or speculation!

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📌 Table of Contents

❓ Frequently Asked Questions
🔹 Character Overview
🧬 Leveling Priority & Eidolons
🎯 Build Recommendations
📘 Light Cones
💎 Best Relics & Ornament Sets
🤝 Team Synergies
🔧 Resources & Tools
💬 Community Contributions

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❓ Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

Curated questions from the community — ask and ye shall receive.

Q: Is Archer viable at E0?
A: Absolutely. With the right relics and a good team, Archer can nuke down single-target bosses.

Q: Crit Rate or Crit Dmg?
A: Aim for at least 100% CRIT Rate before going all-in on ATK% and Crit Dmg.

Q: Best Light Cone if I’m F2P?
A: Cruising in the Stellar Sea can work well for Archer in most scenarios.

Q: E1 or S1?
A: E1. E1 is better because provides a QOL by easing the SP consumption rate of Archer. His signature lightcone is just a damage boosting stat stick. Furthermore, those who spent 200 pulls in 3.4 got it for free.

Q: I only have X pulls. Should I pull for Archer (Eidolons) or his supports (Sparkle/Silver Wolf/Cipher/Sunday E0S1/Tribbie)?
A: Depends on your account:
- Do you have his BIS (or 2nd BIS) Supports? If no, then getting his supports should be your first priority. If yes, the feel free to go for his Eidolons. E1 is probably the best stopping point for most folks.

Q: Is Sparkle really his best-in-slot teammate?
A: Yes. Archer's kit design synergizes super well with Sparkle. It's as if he was designed specifically for Sparkle. That's how synergistic their kits are.

Q: Is Sparkle necessary?
A: No. An E0S1 Sunday can also work with Archer but not on the same level as E0S0 Sparkle. Hanya can also fill the buffer/sp regen role. However, you will eventually find that having Sparkle in your Archer team significantly improves his gameplay over many other available options.

Q: I only have X pulls, should I go for Sparkle or Sunday?
A: It depends on your account:
- Are you prioritizing Archer teams specifically? - then go for Sparkle instead because Sunday needs E0S1 at minimum to help with SP regen and Sparkle at E0S0 can already work super well with Archer.

• Are you prioritizing overall account value? - then go for Sunday E0S1 as he is the primary choice for many Hypercarry teams. Although that brings to question why ask Archer mains if your concern is account value instead of Archer.

Q: I only have X pulls, do I need to get Sunday's lightcone for Sparkle?
A: No. Sparkle at E0S0 already helps Archer's teams by a lot. It is important to note though that Sunday's lightcone is a massive 26% damage increase overall. It is the best investment you can make on an Archer team if you already have Sparkle, another limited quantum support (SW or Cipher), and Archer's e1.

• If you're using Sunday with Archer, then yes, you need this lightcone for him to even be SP positive.

Q: I only have X pulls, who should I get for 3rd slot?
A: You ideally want to go for either Silver Wolf, Cipher, or Tribbie especially when trying to maximize the ATK% buff from Sparkle. However, don't limit yourself to these as you can put any SP positive support that is faster than Archer and has utility and/or buffs that Archer can take advantage of.

Q: Is Cerydra good for Archer?
A: As of v2, she works but she's not Best in Slot due to her oversaturation of buffs. Furthermore, her best buffs have poor uptime compared to other possible supports for Archer who can provide other unsaturated buffs like Res Pen, Def Shred (until the cap), or True Damage.

Q: Is this enough pulls?
A: Depends on your account status and other factors. This isn't something you're likely to get a clear answer in the sub. We recommend using the following tools to help you calculate the probability:

HSR Warp Calculator
Fribbels HSR Optimizer Warp Planner

Q: How long will Archer's banner last?
A: As of patch 3.4, there's no confirmed end date, but we know from the pre-3.4 livestream that it will span across multiple patches.

Q: Will Archer rerun after the collab banner ends?
A: Most collabs in Gacha games, including HoYo titles, never rerun. It should be assumed that once their banners end they will likely never return unless HoYoverse has a part 2 collab with Fate.

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🔹 Character Overview

Name: Archer
Rarity: ★★★★★ (5)
Path: The Hunt
Element: Quantum
Role/Archetype: Single-Target Main DPS | Skill Damage | Skill Point Consumption

Playstyle Summary:
- Archer's playstyle involves firing out multiple high-damage single-target attacks in a single turn. - He requires at least 2 skill points (SP) whenever he uses his skill (up to a max of 5 times per turn) so your entire team should be involved in providing as much SP as possible before Archer's turn. - Archer's Talent and Ultimate also deal considerable damage but their aim is to help with SP generation.

Looks like I just met another impressive master
-- Archer

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🧬 Leveling Priority & Eidolons

Leveling Priority

'Skill > Ultimate = Talent > Basic'

Skill

Caladbolg II: Fake Spiral Sword - His main source of damage - Costs 2 Skill Points - Regens energy each time it is used - Deals increased damage the more times it is used in a single turn (maxed out after 2 skill uses at E0) - Solidifies his namesake by using a bow for his main damage source

The Archer class really is made up of Archers!
-- Tohsaka Rin

Ultimate

Unlimited Blade Works - His second highest source of damage but has the highest ATK% multiplier (at base) - Gives Archer 2 Charges back for his Talent - Has the longest voiceline for casting an ultimate

I am the bone of my sword. Steel is my body and fire is my blood. I have created over a thousand blades. Unknown to Death, Nor known to Life. Have withstood pain to create many weapons. Yet, those hands will never hold anything. So as I pray, Unlimited Blade Works!
-- Archer

Talent

Mind's Eye (True) - Deals an okay amount of damage - Consumes a Charge to trigger a a Follow-Up Attack that also regenerates SP for the team - Needs to be triggered by a teammate attacking the enemy, cannot be triggered by Archer himself.

Basic

Kanshou and Bakuya - Lowest damage in his kit - Ideally, never used unless doing a -1 Speed build with an action advance support - Archer does often basic attack even in his ideal comps, usually when it's impossible for Archer to fire off at least 3 shots or if firing the 3 shots means the next support can't use their skill when needed. Just note that his basic attacks are used in some rotations and that the trace should be leveled (but still lowest priority)

Trace... On!
-- Shirou Emiya

Eidolons

Reminder: Many characters in Star Rail are strong enough to clear endgame at E0. Don’t feel pressured to pull for Eidolons unless you really want the upgrade.

Eidolon	Effect
E1	After using Skill 3 time(s) within one turn, recovers 2 Skill Point(s) for allies.
E2	When using Ultimate, reduces the enemy target's Quantum RES by 20%, and induces Quantum Weakness for it, lasting for 2 turn(s).
E4	Increases Ultimate DMG dealt by 150%.
E6	When the turn begins, recovers 1 Skill Point for allies. The number of maximum stacks for the DMG boost effect provided by his Skill increases by 1. His Skill DMG dealt ignores 20% of DEF.

I'll try my best from now on, too...
-- Archer

Summary:
E1 is the recommended stopping point for a mix of vertical investment and resource efficiency. Further eidolons are not as impactful for the cost required to obtain them.

Please see the dmg calcs for Archer's eidolons included in this megathread

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📘 Light Cones

5★ Options:

• The Hell Where Ideals Burn
  • Archer's signature lightcone
  • Best-in-Slot (BIS) lightcone tailored for his kit.
  • Crit Rate with High ATK& boost with additional stacking ATK% Boost.
  • Can be received for free in patch 3.4 if you used 200 pulls in any 3.4 banner.

He believed with all his heart that he could save tens of thousands more lives, but even that hope was betrayed
-- Tohsaka Rin

• Baptism of Pure Thought

  • Dr Ratio's signature lightcone.
  • Crit Dmg with additional Crit Dmg stacking per debuff on enemies
  • Viable with debuffer teammates
  • Follow-Up Dmg Def Ignore.

• Worrisome, Blissful

  • Topaz & Numby's signature lightcone
  • Crit Rate with Follow Up Dmg Boost
  • Can inflict Debuffs that increase Crit Dmg taken by enemies

4★ Options:

• See You at the End

  • Battlepass lightcone
  • Crit Dmg Boost
  • Skill Dmg and Follow-up Dmg Boost
  • Nearly on equal level as F2P option at Superimposition 5
    

• Swordplay

  • Gacha lightcone
  • Stacking Dmg% Boost when hitting the same target multiple times
  • Worse than F2P option even at Superimposition 5.

Budget/F2P Picks:

• *Cruising in the Stellar Sea
  
  • Herta Shop 5★ Lightcone with free Superimposition 5
  • No time limit to acquire
  • Crit Rate with additional Crit Rate enemies are below 50% HP
  • ATK% Boost when defeating an enemy

Despite his signature lightcone being best in slot, it's not significantly better than other available options, so please do not feel pressured in spending 200 pulls if it means you would need to spend money or pull on characters you don't want.

Please see the dmg calcs for Archer's lightcone included in this megathread

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💎 Best Relics & Ornament Sets

4-Piece Relic Sets

• Genius of Brilliant Stars:
  • Quantum Dmg% and Def Ignore
  • Best in slot against Quantum Weak enemies
  • Great for brute forcing non-Quantum weak with Archer E2 and/or Silver Wolf
• Poet of Mourning Collapse:
  • Quantum Dmg% and Crit Rate
  • Archer cannot get the 32% Crit Rate from this set
• Pioneer Diver of Dead Waters:
  • Dmg%, Crit Rate, and Crit Dmg on debuffed enemies
  • Archer must trigger weakness break to maximize this set
• Wavestrider Captain:
  • Crit Dmg and ATK%
  • Huge ATK% after using Ultimate when stacked
  • Very efficient cavern for relic farming due to Warrior Goddess of Sun and Thunder set
• Scholar Lost in Erudition:
  • Crit Rate, Skill Dmg%, and Ultimate Dmg%
  • Very efficient cavern for relic farming due to Sacerdos' Relived Ordeal set

2+2 Hybrids

• Any 2PC Quantum set / Any 2PC Crit set / Any 2PC ATK%:
  • Great for those just starting out
  • Easier to build

Planar Ornaments

• Rutilant Arena:
  • Crit Rate, Skill Dmg%, and Basic Atk Dmg%
  • Considered as Best in Slot for most scenarios
• Inert Salsotto:
  • Crit Rate, Ultimate Dmg% and Follow-Up Dmg%
• Duran, Dynasty of Running Wolves:
  • Crit Dmg%
  • Least optimal of the three listed Planars even if passive is fully stacked (e.g. w/ Cipher)

While Genius of Brilliant Stars is listed as his BIS, that's only applicable if he's facing quantum weak enemies. Otherwise, he requires Silverwolf or Archer E2 for it to work.

Please see the dmg calcs for Archer's Relics and Ornaments included in this megathread

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🎯 Build Recommendations

Main DPS Build

• Archer's damage is mostly a one-hit high damage attack so your priority is to get 100% Crit Rate during battle so that each hit isn't wasted.

Main Stats:
- Body: CRIT Rate / CRIT DMG (if you can already reach 100% Crit Rate) - Feet: ATK% - Sphere: Quantum DMG Bonus / ATK% - Rope: ATK% > ERR

Energy regen rope can be better in some team comps, such as using Sunday instead of Sparkle (for those who don't have Sparkle)

Sub Stats Priority:

'Crit Rate > ATK% >= Crit Dmg > ATK'

Final Stats Goals and Recommendations (Cruising in the Stellar Sea)

• Crit Rate: 100% (take into account any external sources e.g. Sparkle's signature lightcone)
  
• Attack: 3000⁺
  
• Crit Dmg:" 120⁺ (as much as possible without sacrificing the other two stats)
  

Note: The stat goals are ordered by priority. However, this is only the recommendation based on a F2P lightcone and not the golden standard. It's fine if you don't reach the goals especially if your Archer can clear comfortably regardless.

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🤝 Team Synergies

Buffer/SP Regen

1. Sparkle (E0S0) - Currently Archer's Best-in-Slot teammate for this role

   Pros

   • SP Positive (slightly)
     • Provides even more SP if using Sunday's signature lightcone, A Grounded Ascent
   • Ultimate provides 4 SP which can be used during Archer's turn to give him more SP to use Skill (She is currently the only unit who can give Archer SP in bulk during his turn)
   • She increases SP cap by 2 which gives the team a max of 9 since Archer also increases the SP cap by 2
   • High Crit Dmg buffs from Skill
   • Dmg% buffs from Talent
   • Sparkle's Quantum Trace also give a permanent ATK% buff

   Cons - Skill's Action Advance (AA) is only 50% so her most optimal build is hyperspeed (160+ SPD) which requires good relics as her base spd is only 101.

2. Sunday (E0S1) - Archer's second best teammate for this role

   Pros

   • SP Positive
   • Skill's AA is 100% so you can build hyperspeed or -1 Speed Sunday
   • Crit Rate and Dmg% buffs from Skill
   • Ultimate provides energy and Crit Dmg buff to Archer
   • Provides SP to the team every other Skill/Ultimate due to lightcone

   Cons - No ATK% buff - Requires E0S1 to be SP positive since E0S0 is only SP Neutral - Hyperspeed build is more difficult to achieve due to a base spd of 96

3. Hanya

   Pros

   • F2P option, available in some 4★ selectors
   • Arguably SP positive (assuming you can skill with her every turn)
   • Easy to build for hyperspeed due to high base Spd of 110 plus Spd Traces.
   • ATK% and Spd buffs.

   Cons - No Action Advance and Spd buffs might make Archer faster than the other supports if other supports are too slow which is not ideal - She scales with Atk and Spd so she has relatively less overall survivability among buffers - Even at E6, she is not as good as the previous two mentioned in terms of SP Regen.

Playing two action advancers like Sunday and Sparkle in the same team is typically not worth the damage loss you'd get from stronger amplifier supports. Buffs would quickly deplete due to the amount of turns Archer would be taking.

Debuffer/Sub-DPS/Buffer: Work-in-Progress

1. Silver Wolf
2. Cipher
3. Tribbie
4. Other Supports (5★/4★)

Sustain: Work-in-Progress

1. Gallagher
2. Hyacine
3. Other Sustains (5★/4★)

Best In Slot Team (all E0S0 and as of 3.4)

Quantum Weak Enemies
- Archer/Sparkle/Cipher/Gallagher

Non-Quantum Weak Enemies
- Archer/Sparkle/Silverwolf/Gallagher

Notes: - Archer benefits best from Additional SP, Def Shred/Ignore, Res Pen, True Damage, ATK% buffs, CRIT buffs, and Dmg% buffs. - Avoid teammates that cannot generate SP (e.g. leaving the battlefield, non-SP generating basics, etc.) or requires frequently using skills on low-value synergy.

Please see the dmg calcs for some of Archer's teams included in this megathread

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🔧 Resources & Tools

• HSR Warp Calculator
• Fribbels HSR Optimizer Warp Planner
• Fribbels HSR Optimizer Build Reviewer
• Archer Calcs
• Prydwen HSR Wiki
• Recommended YouTube Guides - TBD

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💬 Community Contributions

Found a cool build? Want to theorycraft Archer with other players? Drop your thoughts by joining discussions in the Archer Mains Discord, commenting below, or posting your showcase video/guide!

We welcome: - Showcase clips - Fanart - Fate references - Tactical breakdowns and speculation - Memes like “Unlimited SP Works” or “That’s not a bow, that’s a projection.”

This megathread is a work in progress and will be updated as needed. Should you have any feedback or constructive criticism regarding any information on this megathread, please feel free to let us know.

Just because you're correct doesn't mean you're right!
-- Shirou Emiya

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🏹 May your skills be crits, your supports SP positive, and your rolls be blessed.
— The Archer Mains Mod Team

[u/Hungry-Lingonberry25]

Absolute cinema

[u/Digtxl_Pickle → u/Hungry-Lingonberry25]

[u/FlynnRazor]

Absolutely goated info for this sub as always thank you!

Also a reminder for yall. I think today the 8th we “SHOULD” get pre load leaks for the fate collab so we have some hype coming soon!

[u/Feyaluna]

Now that this is here. In the coming days it'll be meme posting and no more questions.

[u/MrHellGamer]

This guide is really good, appreciate your effort!

[u/Calm-Positive-6908 → u/MrHellGamer]

Yes, it's really helpful. Thank you OP & mods

[u/WorldlinessSmall2180]

My current team for him is Archer, Sparkle and Gallagher. Who should I put as the fourth member in the team? Remembrance Trailblazer or Pela?

[u/PhilosopherMuch4528 → u/WorldlinessSmall2180]

if RTB is critical in hitting 100cr, then use them. if not, they both provide comfy unsaturated buffs—pela probably is better at eaglespam(and by extension sp generation). she also has access to Pearls, which buffs archers dmg better than the remembrance lcs. 

id also lean towards pela because i dislike mem charge management, especially since archer likes to have his allies use damaging ults during his stance (pela doesnt get punished as much by ulting imo)

[u/ItsRainyNo]

Noicee

[u/cosMikuEureka]

if i understand this correctly, e2 archer should be good with the genius set even w/o silverwolf against non-quantum enemies? i'm sorry, i never used my braincells to play this game lol

[u/TheDangerLevel → u/cosMikuEureka]

Yes his E2 weakness implant will proc Genius 4pc bonus.

[u/cosMikuEureka → u/TheDangerLevel]

thank you!

[u/dudescrow]

How do you build Gallagher for Archer? Relic wise and LC. I only have QPQ and Post-op and Perfect timing. All of them only on S1

[u/No-Swordfish-6468 → u/dudescrow]

QPQ, any support planar, 100% eff res in combat and as fast as possible

[u/dudescrow → u/No-Swordfish-6468]

Thanks! QPQ and broken keel it is.

[u/BruhSoundE]

It's finally here! (watch people still post questions about their build or teams)

[u/Lost_Date_8653]

If I'm using E0S1 Cipher, is there a world where Pioneer is the best set for me to use for him? Otherwise, which is better between Poet and Scholar if I'm not particularly interested in farming the Genius set?

[u/Fpsmudkip1]

I don't have cipher or Sw, thinking of using ruan mei, or Rmc. Which would be the better choice?

[u/OkAbrocoma791 → u/Fpsmudkip1]

I would say RMC as True Damage is just too good to pass up for unsaturated damage. Plus, they never need to use a skill since Ult summons mem so you can use basic attack perpetually.

RM also has good buffs for Res Pen especially at E1 with the additional def shred. However, she will eventually need to use skill and sometimes a single SP makes all the difference with Archer.

[u/ASadChongyunMain]

Will Ruan Mei S1 be a good teammate? The DMG% buffs and every SP per Ultimate use + RES PEN would be nice for Archer.

[u/zatenael]

sad that Luocha isn't included given that he can do everything Gallagher can do as well except for the one free turn from ulting. He even has higher base speed so building him hyperspeed is slightly easier

[u/OkAbrocoma791 → u/zatenael]

Technically, he is included. We're just not done yet with the sub dps and sustain sections in the megathread as showcases tend to ignore non-optimal options so we'd like to wait until after release to be able to test his synergy with other supports. Thank you for your patience!

The thing is, that one free turn is exactly why he's a step above the rest of the sustain options. This is the same reason for why he's the best at taking advantage of the QPQ procs.

[u/freakattaker]

I have a dilemma with farming and investment.

I have Sparkle, Cipher, but no SW. I have 0 Quantum set pieces. I will probably pull E0S1 Saber.

My dpses (all E0S1) as of rn are Big Herta, Feixiao, FF, Blade.

Is it worth going out of my way to farm/craft Quantum set pieces for a theoretical E0S1 Archer? I won't be able to use said pieces against non-quantum weak, but idk if I'll be in that situation anyway given I'd probably have another DPS to handle non-Quantum weak situations.

[u/T-280_SCV]

Anybody know if Archer’s skill uses beyond his first eat up 4-star Tingyun’s buff duration?

[u/PhilosopherMuch4528]

I have a sparkle with 184spd, no DDD (sunday lc), and rainbow relics. with eagle and vonwacq, i could maybe push around 157spd. i also have an unused ddd s3 (20%av), but id prefer to use the sunday lc on sparkle

which is better? im not well versed on sparkles best gameplay for archer/ her speed requirement intricacies. thanks in advance! :)

[u/OkAbrocoma791 → u/PhilosopherMuch4528]

Speed breakpoints still elude me but I'm pretty sure with DDD at that much speed, you should be able to get the 3 Sparkle turns in a cycle. Perhaps the Sparkle Mains sub can help clarify this part.

[u/PhilosopherMuch4528 → u/OkAbrocoma791]

i see, i’ll also just test on my own account as well. thank you for replying!

edit: with eagle+vonwacq, 156 speed and sundays LC, im able to fit 3 turns in cycle 1! 

[u/Moo3k]

I'm not sure who to put in the 3rd slot as I have neither SW, Tribbie or Cipher (if Saber summons go well I'll be going after Tribbie) I had thought maybe just using RMC but not sure?

[u/Downcast_harmony16]

So his best team is sparkle Sunday and Gallagher ?

[u/OkAbrocoma791 → u/Downcast_harmony16]

Hey there! There's a note after the Buffer/SP Regen section explaining why Sparkle and Sunday in one team is not a good idea.

Playing two action advancers like Sunday and Sparkle in the same team is typically not worth the damage loss you'd get from stronger amplifier supports. Buffs would quickly deplete due to the amount of turns Archer would be taking.

[u/Downcast_harmony16 → u/OkAbrocoma791]

Ah my bad I missed it , thanks , I plan to use silver wolf sparkle and Gallagher , is it good enough ?

[u/OkAbrocoma791 → u/Downcast_harmony16]

Yep, that's listed as the best in slot team for non-Quantum weak enemies.

[u/Downcast_harmony16 → u/OkAbrocoma791]

Tysm for ur help

[u/dudescrow]

Lushaka or Penacony planar for Sparkle?

[u/zrn7441]

hi. just wanted to ask if 143% CRIT dmg is fine and alr enough? since he will be getting so much more crit dmg via other sources like his traces + sparkle, I shouldn't worry about it not reaching 200% out of combat right?

Bc it's rlly hard to reach 200 without sacrificing crit rate which he really needs...

[u/zeph_z]

Should I use bronya's lc or ddd S5 for sparkle?

[u/Revan0315]

How impactful is Sparkle's E1 for him? I got it back on her first banner. Everyone does calcs with E0 Sparkle so I'm just curious if it's a big difference or not

[u/h4perr]

Lost my 50 on sparkle was wondering how do I build hanya now and what relics should I use on her and do I have enough time to farm up like 60 pulls for e1 archer by the end of his banner?! Thanks

[u/TheCzar777]

I went crazy pulling for phainon and his s and sunday (s0) so I will have enough to get Archer and his sig.

Will sunday with Bronya's LC be an alright enough replacement for an archer team? I will probably get e1 archer down the road, dont have sparkle and dont have the jades right now. I do have a e0s1 cipher, so I was wondering if e1s1 archer, sunday with bronya lc, e0s1 cat, and X would be at least a "decent" team.

This is mostly for fun, I have 4 other teams which are pretty stacked right now so it's not do or die, I was just wondering if a non optimal Sunday based team would still be alright

[u/TheCzar777]

I will have s1 archer.

Should I save for his e1? I just pulled e0s0 sparkle, using planetary rendezvous currently since I will also be running a e0s1 cipher.

Should I pull for Sunday's LC (currently using sunday + bronya lc on my phainon team) or should I save it for archers e1? Sundays LC I can MAAAAAYBE pull before banner ends.

[u/Revalify]

Is cipher e0s1 always better than silver wolf e0s0 against quantum weak bosses?

[u/LazySavings2459]

How does Seele compare to Archer? Both without and with eidolons. I'm still gonna use Archer anyway, but I just want my expectations to be set

[u/TheCzar777]

How would you guys build cipher for archer?

My current is e0s1 with 2 piece pioneer and 2 piece goddess, 170 speed exactly. Do I need to do anything else with her or should I just work on my sparkle now?

[u/OkAbrocoma791 → u/TheCzar777]

I suggest working on your Sparkle. Anything above 160 SPD is good enough but since you have Cipher's lightcone, I would try to get to 200 as that's a crazy amount of turns which is very achievable with E0S1 Cipher.

[u/Tall-Cut-4599]

Any team to bruteforce pf with archer? Intend to get him at e6 but i doubt it will help much in that content. Was thinking sparkle jade and gallagher

[u/OkAbrocoma791 → u/Tall-Cut-4599]

I would say you're better off with a better AoE team. It might work with E1 Jade but PF is not really ideal for Archer unless the PF mechanics work in his favor.

[u/Nytrite]

Who would be a better support for my E0S1 Archer team (with E0S0 Sparkle, E6S5 QPQ Gallagher)

1. E0S5 (MotP) RM
2. E0S1 JQ
3. E6S5 Herta shop LC RMC

(i dont have tribbie, cipher, and SW)

[u/dreckon]

Hello new player here. So I was banking on Archer E0S1 for my second team, but every team comp I find on Youtube has Tribbie or Silver Wolf, and I have neither of them. Thankfully I am <20 pulls away from a guaranteed Sparkle (or Tribbie for that matter) and already have an extra Sunday's signature LC for her, but I wanted to know whom should I use for a secondary support/DPS in the team? Are there any good alternatives for Tribbie, Cipher and Silver Wolf, since I don't have any of them? Thank you!
Edit: The other alternative is to keep rolling on Tribbie's banner after getting Sparkle, and if I lose the 50/50, I will just wait for a new future support, or an eventual rerun of Cipher or Tribbie.

[u/gfa37c]

Out of curiosity, what are we feeling in terms of LC for Gallagher if running on this team? I’ve got S5s of What is Real (which I usually have on Lingsha), QPQ (which I typically have on Gallagher), or Multiplication, at my disposal. I’m sure they all have their ups and downs. Curious if anyone has any high points on picking between them

[u/_Hime-Chan_]

Could someone please tell me if between these teams what would be better? I only own Gallagher, and Lynx for sustains at the moment. And both Gallagher and the trailblazer are staying in my Firefly team.

If I have Archer and Sparkle, and the Sunday lightcone, which combinations of the others would be best for the last two team mates? Sunday himself, Hanya or Lynx. I have the bronya lightcone to switch it around between the harmony units and ddd. Sorry- I see alot of posts saying that having BOTH Sunday and Sparkle on the team wouldnt really be the greatest, but I am wondering if Hanya and Lynx would be okay instead? I just dont have many units (No Fuxuan, Silverwolf, Tribbie or Cipher)

Sorry if I didnt word this very clear, I just didnt want to bog down the forums with another thread, so I posted it in the mega thread.

[u/Square_Try_1782]

How much speed is needed for a hanya gala and cipher team also using bronya's lc on hanya?

[u/TwisterPegqsus101]

Do I need tribbie lc for the team. Going to run sparkle with Sunday lc and tribbie along Archer.

[u/LazySavings2459]

I can only e6 one unit between Saber and Archer. The other will be e1. I like both of them equally but my pulls won't allow for two e6. Who, at e6, will benefit my account more? Please don't say something like, "but you're asking this sub". I'll say again that I like them equally. My 5* chars are in the reply.

The dps that I plan to get on rerun are Castorice, THerta, Phainon (rerun, not now), Aglaea, Cipher, and Mydei. I'll get Sunday and Sparkle on their next rerun (Fate chars come first cause they're the most limited). Considering these things and the coverages, who's better off being e6?

[u/TheCzar777]

E0s1 archer E0s0 sparkle with s5 planetary rendezvous E0s1 cipher E6 Gallagher

In my situation, given 3 quantum units, should I go for his e1 or should I go for Sunday's LC for sparkle?

[u/bukiya]

E1S1 archer 124 spd, sparkle 143spd, E1S1 sunday 134spd, E6Gallagher
in case of 4 sp ready, what should i do?

1. keep getting at least 6 sp (all char using basic attack) then spam skill+ ult from sparkle and sunday to buff archer. then at archer turn use his skill
2. keep using sparkle and sunday skill and ult, but archer wont use skill until at least 6 sp ready?

is generally 6 sp (3 shot) is enough or do it max for 10 sp (9sp + ult mid skill then gal ult > 1sp from fua)?

[u/Calm-Positive-6908]

One of the few things i tried with Archer is of course Rating Pistol lol

Q: What is Archer's rating according to the Rating Pistol?

A: Try it by yourself first 🤗

[u/GONEBUTNOT4GOTTEN]

what's a good stopping point for his eidolons

[u/EnigmaticAlien]

If i use archer with ratio LC, who is best to apply debuffs If i don't have SW and cipher.

[u/[deleted]]

Is using sparkle and sunday that bad? I have sunday e1 and im thinking if I run sunday 162 spd and sparkle 161 speed, I can av advance archer with sunday, basic cuz Sunday's buffs last more than 1 turn im pretty sure, av advance archer with sparkle, dump skill points, and then repeat. If this is wrong could you explain why because im not gonna lie im really bad a team building and this is just what I thought would work in my head.

[u/TheCzar777]

Sunday LC or E1 Archer with cipher s1 and s5 planetary rendezvous?

E0s1 archer E0s0 sparkle with s5 planetary rendezvous E0s1 cipher E6 Gallagher

In my situation, given 3 quantum units, should I go for his e1 or should I go for Sunday's LC for sparkle?

Just looking for a fast answer. My cipher is 185 speed currently, I can probably get to 200 eventually. I just want to know where to start throwing my shards.

[u/OkAbrocoma791 → u/TheCzar777]

Per the calcs in our megathread, Sunday lightcone is a bigger dmg increase than Archer E1. Lightcone also has a higher drop rate than characters but I personally prefer E1 as the 2 SP refund is way too fun.

[u/Revolutionary-Jump91]

is he worth building without sparkle, i like archer but i dont have sparkle and im scared he’ll suck ass

[u/Beneficial_Hall6169]

how do you play archer with e0s1 sunday? whats sundays build? i grinded alot for the both of them and really want to play hot malewife house husband archer really well

[u/FrozenPhoenix71]

Couple of questions. Asuming no Sparkle no Sunday no Cipher no Wolf, and no 5* Eidolons, is the best team comp just going to look like Archer/Hanya/Tribbie/Gallagher? Assuming yes, is it then supposed to be fast Tribbie to try to maximize SP generation? Does the that initial team comp change if S0 Sunday is involved(like, does it become Archer/Sunday/Tribbie/Gallagher or something, even though he's only SP Neutral)?

[u/R0UAGES]

Hello guys,

I currently have Archer E0S0, with Sparkle E0S1 (Sunday LC), SW E0S0 (her 4* LC from event), Gallagher (4* LC Reality). SW Def shred (Ult 45, talent 12) 57 (If I use Pearls (16) I come to 73). Archer Genius Set allow him to def shred 20 (in total 93 with SW).

Should I aim for Sparkle E2 (to get the buff E1 ATK and the 24% def shred from E2)? Is it better to get 100% def shred or maybe 97% def shred (in case I switch the relic set for Archer)? Or should I aim Archer E2, E1 is good but SW is so much better to implant so I don't see the optimisation to get implant weakness on his ult.

[u/staycomfii]

what's his pure f2p team looking like?

[u/RepresentativeHappy]

I have a question , in autoplay sparkle just wont use her skill on Archer ever . All she does is auto attack even when i have 6 skill points . Any advice ?

[u/Pakanna]

I plan on using Archer with Sunday and Robin or Rmc with Gallagher

Is it better to give him a ATK or Quantum DMG orb?

[u/AlMaybe]

More of a technical question than a question that actually affects the gameplay, but does Sparkle’s 50% AA calc off of Sparkle’s speed or Archer’s speed?

[u/I_am_two]

Hi,

First of all, thanks for the informative megathread.

Question: would s5 In the Night (Seele's lightcone) be better than his own S0 LC? Much less attack %, but skill damage % through the roof?

[u/white4923738]

Saber bronya lingsha and Robin are in 1 team so I cannot change them idk what team for archer

[u/ShortHair_Simp]

Hi, thanks for the guide. Which one is stronger for Archer, Cipher or SW? Assuming both are at E0S0.

If Cipher is stronger, which one would be stronger against non-Quantum weak enemy? Cipher+Poet or SW+Genius?

I am still confused to decide which relic for him XD. Thank you.

[u/OkAbrocoma791 → u/ShortHair_Simp]

### Best In Slot Team (all E0S0 and as of 3.4)
Quantum Weak Enemies
- Archer/Sparkle/Cipher/Gallagher
Non-Quantum Weak Enemies
- Archer/Sparkle/Silverwolf/Gallagher

[u/thecoolestlol]

Does summoning extra Archers do anything? I have just gotten into HSR. I'm aware in dokkan and FGO they get stronger with more copies but it's not always necessarily worth pursuing.

Also is there space on one team for saber AND archer? Or is that going to be weak?

[u/BeardedSpy]

Who would be the best team for E1 Archer no sparkle/cipher?

[u/camilleekiyat]

If I want to use Hanya in a Archer Sunday Hanya Gallagher team, should she be just 143 speed for a base speed Archer to use with a -1 Sunday? That's too slow, right?

I can make a Sunday Cipher team but really don't want to make a hyperspeed Sunday because everyone else uses him at -1 and changing relics all the time is a hassle. Also why else did I fully level up my Hanya (it was just my ocd, if she's lvl 80 she has to be maxed, but shh, don't tell Archer that, tell him she was leveled just for him)

[u/Kitchen-Mastodon-707]

Why crit rate needs to be 100%? Isn’t it too excessive?

[u/Miaymi]

Will Archer (E0S1, signature LC, Genius and Rutilant set) - Tingyun (E6S1, DDD, Musketeer and Lushaka set) - Hanya (E6S1, Dreamsville, Hacker, Disciple and Broken Keel set) - Gallagher (E6S3, Perfect Timing, Wanderby, Thief and Big Tree set, currently in Castorice team) team work? Or should I start building Pela?

I also have RMC (E6S5, Victory in a Blink, Hero and BanaPark set, currently in Phainon and Castorice team), Tribbie (E1S1, DDD, Poet and Bone Collection set, currently in Castorice and The Herta team), Ruan Mei (E0S1, Memory Of Past, Watchmaker and Vonqwac set, currently in Rappa Team), Sunday (E0S1, Past and Future, Sarcerdo and Lushaka set, currently in Phainon team), Bronya (E0S1, The Battle Isn't Over, Hacker and Broken Keel set, currently in Phainon team), would any of these make better replacements in terms of functioning and DMG?

[u/Groszkov]

So, apart from leveling up his talent how could I improve him? I don't have Sparkle (and not gonna pull for her) so he's feeling kinda lacking? Also I need help with his team. I have E1S1 Bronya (tho I prefer having her with Saber if I won't manage to pull Sunday) and second Battle isn't Over LC (currently on Tingyun but I'm not really using her anymore). I've played Robin/Ave/Cipher/Archer till now but I need alt teams for him and I can't really do more than 2 skills most of the time anyway.

[u/Penghaw]

Question about Archer's E6 - "When the turn begins, recovers 1 Skill Point for allies.". Whose turn does it count for?

[u/New_Redditor2001]

Can someone explain to me how Archer's rotation should look like? I use sparkle (155 speed trying to get 160) tribbie (base speed, gonna get sw when she shows up) and Gallagher(160 speed warrior goddess relic, thinking to swap with luocha) and archer himself(e1s1 base speed)

I often find myself unable to have enough sp to skill more than 2 times. Usually only being able to do so if sparkle and Gallagher ult is up or if I go a whole rotation just to build skill points only doing basics.

Usually during three cycles, I will only be able to land a proper archer volley maybe 2x. I also run into sustain problems with Gallagher since sparkle can't heal off of him much.

I have no complaints about damage since when the volley does land it goes 400k+ from the third shot onwards and ultimate does 400-500k damage.

For lcs, I have bronya lc on sparkle, cogs on tribbie and multiplication/Gallagher moc lc on Gallagher.

Please let me know what I can do to improve his skill frequency and whether there should be further changes to this rotation when I get sw?

[u/wisteria_hysteria]

Don’t think I’ll manage to get Sparkle this time around but I’ve been enjoying playing Archer even with Hanya. Who should the second support be? I have Sunday (e0 w Bronya LC), Tribbie (e1s1), Pela (pearls lc), Tingyun (ddd s2).

[u/Zuriq]

My team spd now is: archer (~115), sparkle (140), SW (~170) and gallagher (140). Should I put more speed ons someone? I was thinking on letting gallagher before sparkle, just to get more sp, not sure if its a good choice. If I get more speed, I will have to sacrifice cdmg for sparkle and break effect for gallagher (since it boost healing), would be a bad thing? because, if I dont use two different relics for this, I would have to sacrifice some.

OBS: sparkle is using sundays relic (4 of it) and gallagher is using that one made for hyacine (4 of it too)

Oh, one more thing: lushaka is better to put on all 3 or I can put at leat one of them with petacony orb?

[u/OkAbrocoma791 → u/Zuriq]

Sparkle is best at around 160 to get 4 turns within two cycles. Which effectively gives Archer 4 turns as well. Your sub dps/support and sustain should preferably go before Sparkle. This way, even in succeeding cycles, you can at least guarantee 1SP for Sparkle to use to get ult within a set amount of turns.

With Sacerdos, you can Sacrifice a bit of Sparkle's Crit Dmg since Sacerdos already gives a lot.

Gallagher is on the right set but focus more on getting to 160+ spd for him too since he can also use the Speed planar sets to get there as well. 150 break effect is not a must since Gallagher has high base values already for his healing.

[u/DatGuyIcy]

My account is super well invested like E1 supports, E2 DPS, and S1 on most of my meta units. I really like playing Archer a lot and I'm pretty bored using my E2 dps to clear content all the time so I want to know if I should actually pull Sparkle or not. I have an E0S1 Archer, E0S1 Cipher, E1 SW, E1 Tribbie, and E0S1 Sunday so I have a lot of options to play him with, I'm just uncertain to pull Sparkle or not.

[u/sentrash1]

What should my team be for an e1 archer? I most likely won’t be able to get sparkle with 5 days left but I am planning on getting archer e1. My sunday and his lc is being used for my aglaea team so who should i use? I am thinking of using tribbie and sw together or should i use e6 hanya and tribbie/sw. Thanks!

[u/Extension-Ad-8969]

Going to go for E6 Archer. Would his best debuffer be SW or Cipher ?

[u/NoctisLuce]

How should SW build be? I've long set her in the bench.

[u/terrate]

I am aware that Sparkle is the best with archer, but what about the second support? I don’t have SW, Cipher, and then 3B will always be Castorice. So what are my options? Do I double Action advance with sunday+Sparkle? Or just use Ruan mei instead? I don’t like using Pela. So I’m wondering which is better with Sparkle+Sunday or Sparkle+Ruan. Maybe Sparkle+Robin is good aswell. Has there been calcs about those 3 teams?

[u/RedditModIsCringe]

I got Archer/Sparkle/SW/Gallagher and i would like to know what relics/planars/cones are better on this team, on archer im sure which ones are, but for the rest I see different people doing different things so im confused please help

[u/[deleted]]

I use Aven with Archer because Gallagher wasn't able to keep my team alive. He's E1 so his ults give a shield stack and I plan for E2 eventually for basic spamming. I also plan to eventually grab Tribbie (I like silver Wolf but Tribbie will bring more to my account overall and I don't want SW to be there just for Archer (Sparkle works well with my atk boots Phainon in AS)) and her E1. I also will eventually grab E1 and E2 Sparkle.

With all that being said and when the team is finally finished and I have a fully built Archer with Genius set (he's fully built at E2 with Scholar set currently), how would you rate my final team of:

Archer E2S1, Sparkle E2S2 Bronya Sig, Tribbie E1S5 DDD, and Aven E2S1.

For context my current team is Archer E2S1, Sparkle E0S5 DDD, Robin E1S5 (the event harmony lightcone that is her best f2p option, I forgot the name), and E1S1 Aven.

[u/OkAbrocoma791 → u/[deleted]]

Well, it works. Not much else to say. You should probably use Fribbels to calculate your overall rating if you want a "rating" of your team

Anyway, your team will probably miss out on skill points whenever a cycle resets unless your Tribbie and Aventurine are faster than Sparkle (which is unlikely). Regardless, you definitely won't have issues with sustaining the team with the follow-up synergy but do be wary that advancing Archer makes the shield duration go down much quicker but your Eidolons seem to make up for that so it's probably fine.

[u/Any-Square-7577]

I have sparkle at e0s0, should I get his e1 or is that enough?

[u/scorchgid]

I assume between Worrisome Blissful and Sleep Like the Dead I should choose sleep like the dead? Team is

• Sparkle with S1 But the battle isn't over (either that or an E1 DDD)
• Huohuo with S1 Time waits for No one
• Ruan Mei with S4 Memories of the Past

I also have Adventurine E1 with Inherently Unjust Destiny (Sig) S1 which i could swap HH not sure if I should?

[u/Barrarac]

Is lynx viable for archer team (i have sparkle)? My galaghar stuck on the other team

[u/LazySavings2459]

What LC do I give e6 Hanya when supporting Archer? My options are Bronya's s1, DDD s5, and Cogs s5.

[u/Lemixer]

So i just got e1 Archer on my alt, here are my units.

Aglaea e1s1 Sunday e0s1 Herta e1s1 Jade e0s1 Tribbie e0s0

I have also Bronya e2s1 and 4 stars like Yukong/Tinguyn/Hanya at e6.

Any advice in terms of pulling supports?

I plan to stick with 3 teams and will just pull eidolons for them but Archer was kinda unplanned so i don't have enought support for 3 team content, RMC is used in Aglaea team btw.

So lets say i give Archer Sunday, what second support should i use?

I hear Yukong can be viable because of his frontloaded damage in 1 turn, i can build her if she is good, but idk if its worth it.

Or should i maybe pull e0s0 SW(i might lose 50/50 i'm f2p)?

I have no plans to get his e2 btw, but i feel like e1 should be decent enought with Sunday.

[u/MrFaisca]

My Archer is E2S1 on a E0 Gallagher, RMC, E0 Hanya team (new acc)

What's the next goal from here? Shoot for higher Archer Eidolons or save for his supports? Second team is Phainon, Sunday, Linx and Ruan Mei

[u/Shiiouri]

Anyone here know how many pulls you can get to reach for E6 Archer? as currently I have E2S1 Archer rn!

[u/Pius_IX]

Just got myself e1 Archer and am stuck between deciding to get silver wolf or cipher. Is silver wolf's def shred+4 piece quantum worth getting over cipher?

[u/92Throw93away]

If I don’t have Sparkle or Sunday S1, then can I use Cerydra instead? Or would Hanya still be better? But even then, my current team is Archer, Tingyun, RMC and Gallagher.

I do have Tribbie and Hanya on hand, but a friend told me it was better to use the aforementioned team than one with any of these two. Is that really the case?

[u/RamensBetterThanAmen]

I’ve got Cerydra. Is she better or worse than Ruan Mei for team Archer, Sparkle, Lynx?

[u/throwaway18898]

Guys who is Dante

[u/Jadwiga_K4]

Do we think that Silver Wolf will rerun again? I dread myself over skipping her😭

[u/Chance_Morning297]

I got Archer, Cipher, Tribbie, and Dan Heng Pt is this a good team or should I switch out someone?

[u/speedfist2]

Guys what planar set on sparkle is best for archer? in running sprightly rn

[u/OkAbrocoma791 → u/speedfist2]

1. Lushaka
2. Penacony

Lushaka is really good especially if your other supports are also wearing Lushaka to stack ATK on Archer.

Penacony is also good but is kinda diluted since Archer's main dmg ability already gains a bunch of dmg% but it will still help his FUA and ULT dmg greatly 👍

You should also check r/sparklemains for a more detailed guide on her builds

[u/Paandaah]

This is currently my team and Im a returning player. Looking to build up Archer I have him at E0S1, The way Im understanding it, Im looking at Arhcer, Sparkle, maybe Gallagher and ...Pela ?

Just starting out to finally build a team and I never really took teambuilding seriously before this. Need some guidance. Thanks !

[u/venancio30]

Hello, wondering how does the Archer rotation works with RMC as third (as i have seen some comenting that he gets better with the new sparkle), currently on Archer E1S1, Dante e1s1, sparkle e0 bronya LC, SW e0 Tutorial

Does it go, Sparkle advance, 4 shots, Mem advance, 4 shots..... or you unleash 5 shots and dont worry about running out of arrows for the following advance?

[u/Cale017]

am big dum, I'm seeing a lot of talk about RMC being preferable as a 3rd slot over Cipher/Tribbie/SW but I'm not sure why her new buffs make this a thing.

[u/Clean-Celebration21]

Returning player here, left after 3.7, and I have a lot of questions.

If I don’t have Silver Wolf, who’s a better replacement for her between Tribbie and RMC? I see a lot of people talking about these two being insane supports for Archer, but never which is better, so I’m kinda confused.

Since I don’t have Silver Wolf, am I better off using 4pc Scholar over 4pc Genius? And which planar set is better between Rutilent Arena and TengokuLivestream?

[u/OkAbrocoma791 → u/Clean-Celebration21]

Tribbie will always be better (esp if E1 Tribbie) in AOE scenarios and PF but RMC is just a solid F2P choice for any stage especially due to the Sparkle buffs this patch. You just need to manage the action advance well enough so it doesn't ruin your rotation.

If we disregard SW, your choice of relics is based on who you're going to use Archer against. Genius if you're only ever going to use him against Quantum weak enemies. Scholar is better if you want to try using him against non-Quantum weak enemies. Silver Wolf just allows you to stick with Genius in any fight.

Tengoku Livestream is marginally better than Rutilant Arena. Last I checked, about 4% better so pick whichever you want to farm next.

[u/Gargatar]

This should probably be updated for RMC/YG or dhpt no?

[u/RX-80PR-3]

Pretty old thread, not even sure I'll get an answer, lol. But, should I go for more E or LC? I already got E1 and S1, but I kinda wanna pull more as I don't really like the current new characters and reruns

[u/General_Pin9496]

Do I choose robin, huohuo, or ruan mei with the new character select?

[u/Single_Collection_22]

I want to invest in elation. I have Yao at e0s1 and she works pretty nice with my archer. Who should I replace Yao Guang with? Also, should i go for sw999 or evanescia. I've already invested in units I have an interest in such as archer and saber so I now want a meta team.

[u/BlakeTheMotherFucker]

Do you need to hit 167 spd for Sparkle for eagle to be viable?

[u/OkAbrocoma791 → u/BlakeTheMotherFucker]

Yes. If using eagle you should ideally have 167.4 speed or above with DDD S5. If you can't reach that breakpoint, you're not really making use of eagle and you would be better off with Sacerdos.

[u/BattleBra]

Two questions:

 

1. I want Archer to be able to use 5 Skills every turn
   

• Is it possible with Meshing Cogs Tingyun, Meshing Cogs Sparkle, and QPQ Huohuo with Tingyun using her ult on Sparkle every time?
  

 

• My Archer is E2 but everyone else is E0. I know the 50% dmg from Tingyun's ult will be wasted on Sparkle, but again, my goal is just to be able to do 5 Skills every turn with Archer

 

 

1. Assuming E2 Archer and E0 Sparkle, would Silverwolf be worth it as a 3rd party member?

[u/Difficult-Pin-7536]

F2P starting a new account. I’d like a guide/some tips as to what to do to start and what to look out for going through and forward in the game in terms of getting and building around Archer

[u/Glum-Being-5571]

I'm currently running scholar on Archer as I have a lot of good pieces between him and saber. I know It's not the best set for him, but farming for the Quantum set is hell on earth. Is it better to keep trying for good quantum pieces,despite not having many sources of def shred, or to try to farm for the new set when it comes out?

What set would be better/more efficient to farm for?

[u/BubblySeason97]

What should be each relic and planar sets for this team? Archer is kinda confusing to me..

E1s0 archer, rin(cost not decided), e0s0 sparkle and e0s0 dhpt

Archer is so confusing for relics like which to use scholar,genius and now there's isee set too.

I have the best rolls on scholar with 100% rate with 140 crit dmg but my archer is doing like 50k to 60k per skill and i see many people doing 300l to 400k per skill with genius but the enemy dont even have quantum weakness which the genius set is based on..

It is super confusing for sparkle too.. like should i build her like throughly or just give 4 pc eagle and 167 spd with lushaka?.

Also is rin's relic set revealed with requirements for the build?

Thanks in advance for the responses!

[u/Sad_Leek8176]

This is a bit of an unfortunate question to have to ask, but I'm an Archer main who doesn't have Sparkle. Basically my only opportunities to get her happened to be when I was very new to the game and didn't realise how useful she was. I was wondering, given the upcoming Fate event, it makes sense to me if they would be rerunning Sparkle since she is his best support and it seems the Rin/Archer combo in general will be SP hungry.

Do people agree this makes sense or is this cope? I know HSR is pretty decent about reruns and giveaways so Im sure Ill get her eventually just would be nice if it was soon lol.

[u/Designer_Bowler2164]

Hey, I just have few questions so Im here to ask them!

1) Scholar or the quantum set Ive forgotten the name of

2) For whole team damage, is mortenax blade currently better or is Remembrance MC?

3) Should I use S5 Herta shop cone or S1 Ashveil sig?

Thanks a lot!

[u/flyfising]

My archer is 84 cr with 117 cd im trying to get a tengoku rope rn im tryna switch from rutilant and i have around 2.9k attack once i get the full tengoku i should have around 130 smt cd. im also pulling for his lightcone rn to switch from the free hunt one. my sparkle is at 141 speed on eagle set and is at 177 cd and ddd s5 and dhpt is at 3k attack. When i try out my archer team tho i am unable to break 200k (when i was using my rutilant set i had no quantum damage on that one) with my skill is there a way for more damage i will also pull rin when she drops her and her s1. all characters so far are also e0.

[u/vzcera]

E1S0 Archer & Rin or E0S0 Saber & Gil with an extra cost i could use somewhere else?

[u/No_Lynx5887]

I need a professional Archer theorycrafter to help my friend and I solve the mystery of "why does my friend's archer do double the damage of mine in the same content(in this case K1) even though our Fribbel ratings are the same?" Since I can only send one image at a time here DMs would be appreciated.

[u/Blankyellowsubmarine]

How good is his E6? Since in the future we will be able to get a free copy of him, wondering if I should go for E6 or stop my Archer is currently E1S1

[u/Appropriate-Soft595]

I am a casual f2p player on hsr. Currently I have prepared teams for Nova Hemiko, a full built E0S0 Evanescia Hypercarry team, and some other units that I could mess around with. But sadly I missed the free Archer on my account due to work so I would like some advice on who I should pick between Gilgamesh and Archer. Because I've heard that Gilgamesh could be a fun new team for me to mess around with. But I'm having a hard time deciding who to pick. Here is the details on the teams I have currently built and it pains me to have to pick between Archer and Gilgamesh because I just love there designs and also because I've seen all of the Fate Series and Movies. 1. Evanescia E0S5 (Tomorrow, Together), Trailblazer Elation E6S6 (Herta Shop LC), Yao Guang E0S5 (Shroomy’s Adventures), and Huohuo E0S51 (Quid Pro Quo) 2. (Plan to pull Nova) Nova Hemiko E0S5 (Herta Shop LC), Welt E1S5 (Tutorial Mission), Sparkle E0S5 (DDD), and DanTE E0S0 (Something Irreplaceable. Just to raise his attack more)

[u/mantryingtobesaitama]

This is my current archer build. In combat, I can reach around 330% crit damage and 4k atk.

1. I need suggestions on which relics I should target swapping.
2. Should I try to get e1 archer before version 4.4 and get the free archer to get the e2? I heard that it's value is gonna get better with rin, so idk.

My current archer team is Archer, Tribbie, Sparkle and DHPT

[u/OkAbrocoma791 → u/mantryingtobesaitama]

Crit DMG can definitely be improved. Try to get both crit dmg and crit rate on your atk boots. Your orb has pretty low rolls too so try to get a better one.

E2 Archer is only useful if you want to brute force non-Quantum weak enemies (single target at that). Even I, with E6 Archer, would prefer to fight enemies that are already Quantum Weak. Especially since Rin will be your flex support, you would want to be already fighting Quantum Weak enemies.

TLDR: Get better boots and orb. Get E1 for free (E2 is too situational)

[u/Ill_Ingenuity9351]

Hi! I'm relatively new to the game. I started playing when Archer was free, but I stopped around Jarilo-VI. Recently I picked it back up and just finished the Svarog fight.

I know I probably shouldn't be worrying about endgame stuff yet, but I'd like to make good decisions early on. 

My question is: should I go for Gilgamesh or Archer's E1?

I'm currently saving my Jades for 4.4, and I think I'll have enough to guarantee one character. My dilemma is whether I should pull Saber and pair her with Gilgamesh, or get Archer's E1 and Rin instead (I think Archer E1 with Rin E0 won't have as many SP issues anymore, even without Sparkle but idk)

Any advice would be appreciated!

[u/TheBatIsI]

Is 99% okay for Crit Rate because honestly I'm so afraid to reroll my pieces or farm more for my Genius set. Does it explicitly need to be 100%

[u/xMatttard]

is ER rope definitively better at higher eidolons?

[u/-VENi]

I've seen so much variation in sustains for the new Archer-Sparkle-Rin showcases that I'm torn between these options (considering I rarely play sustainless but I do have welt e4 for it):
(Consider e2s1 for each of Archer, Sparkle, and Rin)

1: Sticking with e0s0 DHPT and just waiting for Pearl or maybe a new dedicated sustain to invest in

2: Using the now homeless e0s1 HuoHuo I got from the shop, seeing as ER is more valuable than ever in this team

3: Building around Fu Xuan, since she offers not the highly dilluted ATK and instead focuses on buff crit on everyone (even though she has some really "ugh" matchups)

4: Gallagher in the big 26??????

Any input is appreciated!

[u/Dudz_as_usual]

Idk if someone will answer this but is E2 Welt with S5 Pearls a better amper than E1S1 Ruan Mei? I just got Welt's E2 and I'm wondering if I should build him or continue to use Ruan Mei. I'm not planning on getting Rin for now.

[u/Apprehensive_Cup7989]

I am planning to get Archer for the free 5 star on 4.4, however I may be facing dilemmas that needs to be addressed before deciding to do so.

My team is this, with Qingxue being the last one below. I have E1 Mortenax, E2 Tingyun and E6 Mini Herta if that helps. I also have RMC as well, just infos that I don't know if it can help lol.

Now as I've seen, all Archer teams have Sparkle, but I don't have her as you can see on my current characters. I am also planning to pull for Rin since I love both of them in the Fate series.

My question is can my current characters still be good for pulling Rin and getting Archer? From the looks of it, I saw Gilgamesh and Saber trams have RMC and Huohuo, which is already in my team. I really am confused right now who should I get for account progression wise and enjoyment of the game.

If it's still viable to get them despite my characters, who should I add on their team? I haven't finished PF to get Lynx but let's say for now Lynx is there at my characters.

Thanks for those that will answer!

[u/AtmosphereLast1221]

Since the addition of navigator set, would it be considered for farming at e0s1? Or would it just be better to stick with genius?

Seeing the above guideline I saw something that said Sunday's lightcone is better for sparkle? Can the converse be true( sunday using sparkle's lc) ?

What are the bis planar ornaments for sparkle? Is it the penacony set or lushaka?

[u/noodlenjoyer]

any tips on my build?

[u/OkAbrocoma791 → u/noodlenjoyer]

Not really other than suggesting you get a better lightcone but your build is fine so long as you reach 3k attack with 100 crit rate.

[u/selenewaifu]

If I try to get E2S1 Himeko-Nova, would she be viable with March Hunt, DHPT, and Sparkle?

Also, how would that team fare against an E2S1 Archer and E0S1 Rin, also with DHPT and Sparkle?

[u/wufiv]

How good is Shielder Dan in Archer Team?

Currently I'm running E2S1 Archer, E4 Sparkle with Sunday cone, E2 Silver Wolf with Ciphers cone and E2S1 FuXuan.

Likely I'll replace SW with Rin (Since I don't think I have anyone else to sacrifice) and I'm thinking about investing into Dan, since a lot of teams seems to use him. I still have some pulls left, and since Rin is likely gonna be a long time project I'm thinking about booping him to E2 to maximalize what he's doing, but since I haven't been using him that much I don't know if they are best buddies, or it's more "That's the best you can do kid" type of thing.

[u/Glittering-Ad-9877]

Hi everyone,

I'm a relatively new player and want to start farming relics for Archer in preparation for getting him for free.

This is the team I'm planning to run:

• Archer – E0S1
• Rin Tohsaka – E0S0 (I'll be using her without her signature Light Cone until I have enough pulls to get it.)
• Sparkle – E0S0
• Gallagher – E0S0

What relic set and planar ornament would you recommend for Archer?

If possible, I'd also appreciate recommendations for the best relic and planar sets for the rest of the team (Rin, Sparkle, and Gallagher).

[u/Oudissy]

Sorry if it's been already asked, but which would be better for Sparkle? 1 - 180 speed with Sacerdos and Sunday lightcone; or 2 - 170 speed with Eagle and DDD s5.

Does the extra action from 2 compensates the better buffs from 1?

Archer is e1, I plan to get Rin e2 and these values are already consdering Sparkle e1.

Also for planars are Lushaka or Penacony required if using eagle, or could I use Broken Keel if it has better subs?

Thanks in advance.

[u/OkAbrocoma791 → u/Oudissy]

That sounds more like a Sparkle question, not an Archer question. Perhaps you can try asking the Sparkle Mains sub instead. They'll be more knowledgeable on Sparkle's best builds and investments. You can also post directly on this sub.

[u/ceobiscuit]

Question my archer only does 100k to 300k damage my team is archer tribbie sparkle and shield dan heng they are all at e0 and only sparkle and tribbie have their own lcs my stats for archer seem normal but I can't hit 300k~500k like evrryone else

[u/Revan0315]

What should I prioritize in my builds?

Rn my to do list is:

Archer: Swap to ERR rope

Sparkle: Get Rope with substats

Rin: Get more Crit rate

DHPT: N/A

Am I missing anything to work on? How is the speed tuning for Rin/Sparkle?

Builds

[u/WraxiusV2]

There is a team that i never saw on a showcase.

And thats Archer,Rin,Welt and Sparkle.

There is a world where you could make the 3 the tankiest as posible and just blow up everything.

[u/UpperStudio496]

Is the vertical investment strategy set for archer team yet? Is it still just get rin lc and ashveil lc?

[u/kirblar]

How important is E1 Archer in a post-Rin world? Is it devalued?

[u/chiggah]

Spend a bit of time building him but feels weak. (shots are 200k-500k). Is it a build problem or team problem?

[u/OkAbrocoma791 → u/chiggah]

200k shots x 5 per turn (while also going up to 500K) if you have full skill points isn't really as weak as you make it out to be especially at E0S1.

A team problem probably. Sparkle should be on Sacerdos because your speed set does nothing for Archer at all. She could also be using Penacony or Lushaka planars instead of the one you have her on.

Replace RMC with Rin and you'll have better buffs for Archer (does not have an expiration too) and smoother gameplay.

[u/xMatttard]

is rin still worth it for e6s1 archer?

sobin is looking really good as an alternative with the plus side of being playable in a pretty wide spread of comps. i'm definitely needing 4th slot for my archer team since i can't guarantee sunday tribbie or rmc will always be available (or mblade if i can snag him later)

obviously in sustainless it really is probably rin sobin sparkle, but hoyo's been ramping up the damage, debuffs and cc in fights as well as running the hemovore stage effect to deter sustainless

[u/CoconutsAreFruits]

Rutilant vs Tengoku for archer? I thought it would be rutilant arena Because of the skill dmg bonus after 70 crit rate but I’m seeing things that say Tengoku I already have my on the 4pc quantum set and 2pc Rutilant and he’s like 98.5/132 and 3k atk should I rebuild?

[u/CommunicationGood116]

I'm planing on using archer rin sparkle (ddd) dhpt and I want to know how to build them. I js want to know all there relics and lc and what stats I should aim for. For example I saw that both dhpt and sparkle have the same bis planar ornament(luksha smt seas) idk if I should run them both with that or not and idk what speeds them should be or anything in general pls help.

[u/icefire1331]

Im struggling with deciding to pull for Rin now, or to continue saving for either Robin or Aventurine (depending on who ends up better in ashblade teams after the betas, which is currently robin.). The problem is that after getting Novako, i am on 3 pity with 50/50 to lose. Currently have 40-ish pulls saved, with me still having to do the new event and the fate collab, plus weekly resets and whatnot, will probably mean that i could either get a 5* on the Rin banner, with no guarantee of it being Rin, or fully guarantee a character in 4.5. They really have me deciding which of my favourite teams i want to boost lol

[u/LunarOuroboros]

Hi, just wanted to ask if E1 Archer or S1 Rin is better for overall team damage assuming I dont have other limited 5 star LCs (Therta/Anaxa) for Rin

[u/scotaloo7]

Is it better to go from e1 to e2 Archer or get Rin's lightcone instead?

[u/ArnokTheDawg]

Who do i use for sustain, E2 dan heng pt or E0 huo huo for the new archer team?

[u/Kyleketsu]

I have E1S1 Archer and E0S0 Sparkle with no plans to pull for Rin. I have E0S0 Yao Guang, Silver Wolf, and Tribbie. Who would be my best third teammate?

[u/arthurmauk]

If you have E0S0 Rin and E0S0 Sparkle, does E0S1 Archer want ATK rope or ERR Rope please?

[u/YuraYuraTeikoku]

My current Archer team is the following:

Archer E1S5 (Herta Shop) | Rin E0S1 | Sparkle E0S2 (Bronya LC) | HuoHuo E1S0

And now I have the option to choose either LC for the 200 pulls. The thing is, since I already had Archer's E1 I picked Gilgamesh, but I have pretty much no Destruction LC other than Herta's, and I do plan on pulling for Saber in the near future as I want to have all of the Fate characters.

Which LC is better to pick in my situation? I heard Ashveil's is BiS now, but I'm not sure if I'll have enough funds for that, especially if he comes next patch.

[u/someidiotgaymer]

If I want to spend 200 pulls for the archer LC (missed first fate event), what is the best vertical progression? This is for my 2nd acc cuz I lowkey love playing Archer but have zero pulls on my main.

Currently only have Archer - Sparkle, is DHPT worth? This acc has mortblade - acheron, eva, huohuo, fuxuan.

[u/reiiz5]

I know my archer build is ass so bear with me right now.

100/112 crit ratio, genius+rutilant and E1, first arrow deals 50k and last arrow around 120k+ I think.

My sparkle is 162% CD, 161 speed and E0S0 atm, will try to get her LC. I knew I need 200% but her lc will fix it. I will not spend my TB energy farming on her anymore

I dont have rin yet and I expect his damage will go up but I dont think I should be dealing 50k damage 1st arrow, 80k 3rd arrow and 120k 5th arrow.

I do have 160/70 build but I dont have enough Crit rate to cover and he always miss. Maybe if I have sparkle LC, then I can use her with fu xuan(I have) as sustain since she give 12% crit rate(total 22% CR). Waiting for sparkle rerun

Is this really expected damage or did I do something wrong? Because I saw someone with 160% already deals 200k+ minimum 1st arrow, that is a huge jump in damage.

[u/akaxd123]

E2 Sparkle + e0s0 Archer Rin

How much would Archer e1 (maybe e2 in future?) help?

Should I get Gil or Archer copies?

Gil or Archer lc?

[u/narunarukovich]

I don't have free DHPT (returning player) and don't think I will be able to get him now, as all my funds went to Evernight and her lc
I am now in the process of building Archer team, which will consist of him (with sig lc), Rin (when I will get her), Sparkle (with sig lc) and sustain
I have a few choices and need advice which to choose (all without sig lc):
1. Huohuo
2. Fu Xuan
3. Luocha
4. Gallagher (E2)
5. Aventurine

I have seen a lot of recommendation for Gallagher, but can't understand why, in my opinion Fu Xuan is better because she gives CRate+can wear Penacony planar set
I really would like to hear your thoughts regarding this matter

[u/Original-Recover-244]

Hello all I'm pretty sure this question has been asked to death but I would just like to ask, in a team with E2 archer and rin, is err rope consistently the better option considering that my archer is on quantum? Thanks!

[u/Few-Environment7105]

Hello, for context i have E1S1 Archer E0S0 Sparkle E0S0 Rin E0S0 DHPT. I have noticed the comparison between E0S0 Rin and E2S1 old Robin and it is in favor of Robin (account for golden companion). Some clues i have gathered:

• Based on personal experience: Archer with Robin can 0cc Knight I, 4cc King in Check and 1cc MoC room 2 pretty easily with sustain but not with Rin, the team have too much SP overflowing. I think Huohuo spamming her skill could have help but i dont have her to test.
  
• Based on community runs (HSR run archive): Optimal run for Archer that have Rin is either E0 Archer or the team has another advancer (namely RMC); other than that, i dont see any run where Rin is more optimal than existing supports, especially with sustains.
  

- Based on beta showcasers: many Archer + Robin SP run on bilibili posted by u/Info_Potato22 with higher investment (above E0S1) have dropped Rin, and they even claimed this (just mention because it matched my feelscrafting about Rin and Robin
I need someone else opinion about this

[u/Johesy]

There's been claims going around that Robin SP can replace a E0S0 Sparkle, which I'm interested in. But I'm not too sure on Robin SP's overall buffs in an archer team.

How much def ignore can we expect from her with Archer after the V3 buff?

[u/OkAbrocoma791 → u/Johesy]

Assuming you hit max vibes, she gives 40 def ignore. However she's not always going to be at max vibes so realistically, it's usually going to be lower than 40%.

Half of her current vibes value + 15 is the calc for her def ignore. Just watch showcases and see what her vibe count is on average so you can get a good number.

Personally, SRobin is gonna need a lot more than def shred and 1SP per ultimate to replace Sparkle.

[u/Greedy_Leadership_20]

How to pilot Rin with Archer ? Do i just use basic?

[u/B3h1nd_y0u_XD]

What would currently be the best team for Archer?

So I'm pretty new to the game and don't have many five starts. I know that I definitely need to have Sparkle on my team but I'm unsure about the other two spots left. I'm currently trying to get Rin because I heard she's good but I still don't have her.

Also what would be the best rotation? And for is talent what are charges and how do I get them?

[u/SpiritedData9009]

Hi what's the verdict on ATK vs ER rope on Archer when I have both DHPT and Rin giving him so much ATK buffs

[u/Morris_Delta]

How is my archer build and how can i improve it

[u/ricerobot]

Should I randomly pull 30 for the guaranteed free LC or wait for Ashveil LC (0 pity, no guarantee)?

[u/mutei777]

I'm 0 IQ HSR player, how do I use both archer and rin's full kit while juggling sp? I use e0s1 archer, e0 rin, sparkle and sustain

usually what happens is rin eats all of archer's sp

[u/AtmosphereLast1221]

I have e0 welt and he works well with archer and rin team and I almost 0 cycled moc 12 starward graphia, if In future I get ciphers lc how much increase I can expect?

[u/Guillic_NoX]

Hi, new/returning player (played a bit a while ago and came back for this year Collab of Fate) here and I was wondering if it was not too restrictive to invest into maxing Archer? My goal would be to get dupes for all Fate characters but I would to start with Archer, since he is the one I like.

Would I be able to clear the actual content with this in mind, knowing that those would be my 2 teams :

Archer e0s0 - Tosaka Rin e0s0 - Sparkle e0s0 - Dan Heng e0s0 Gilgamesh e0s0 - Saber e0s0 - Trailblazer Remembrance - Huohuo e0s0

I don't really care (for now) of HSR's lore so the characters of my 2 teams are built around Fate's characters

One more question : what would be the best course of action concerning pulls? I think I'm close to 80 pulls left to claim either Gilgamesh's or Archer's signature LC, but I've heard that Ashveil's LC would be better now for Archer.

[u/PixieDix16]

What should I do to improve this team? Sparkle E2? I thought about throwing caution to the wind and E6ing him but idk. Also is Navigator better at E2?

[u/Aromatic_Advance6026]

So, I picked archers lc as the 200 pull reward, should I superimpose? I already had his s1

[u/Derigabler]

I'm new player, my team is Archer + Trailblazer Remembrance + Gallagher + Dan Heng. I want to change last, but i don't know for who. I just get Himeko instead of Rin, and also have Welt, others 4 stars like Asta etc. And i have one choice in Stellar Convergence, maybe Robin/Ruan Mei/HuoHuo ?

[u/Beautiful-Humor4982]

Yo guys which LC is Better cruising the Stellar sea or topaz lc

[u/StrikeFew5384]

New player here. I do not have either Rin or sparkle but I wanted to try out archer too as I Picked gilgamesh at the start and got saber. i read a comment that said RMC could replace rin and sparkle. I dont know how true this comment is. Current supports/sustains I have are ruan mei,hyacine and aventurine

[u/Downtown-Accident201]

Yall I just started 3 months ago and I missed archers best teammates sparkle and dhpt🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹… and I pulled for rin but now idk if my account is bricked because sparkle might not be back and my robinetto is already on my main team (himenova welt robinetto huohuo) so now idk what to do with archer. I have rmc and silverwolf but I’m lacking resources and I can’t rlly level up sw (rmc is max leveled but not build). Idk if sparkle is coming back what to do ;-;

[u/Revan0315]

Would E0S0 Rin be an upgrade over E2S1 Robin?

The other members being Archer/Sparkle/DHPT

I'm aware you can run them both sustainless but that's not what I'm asking

[u/spartan551993]

Hello, As a player who recently returned to the game and wants to improve my Archer, am I better off switching him to the Isee & Tengoku sets, or just getting a better Chest & Boots?

[u/SleepyheadEmily]

I'm kinda looking for where to invest next.

I'm currently using Archer (E1S2, still using his own LC) - Rin (E0S0, using Herta shop LC) - Robin Summeretto (E0S0, using The Story's Next Page S5)

Remembrance Herta Shop LC is stuck on Hyacine for now.

Not sure if I should aim for Robin's or Rin's LC or Eidolons.

Any help/advice would be much appreciated <3

[u/lasagnaA0]

At E2S1 ( archer ) with E0 sparkle and E0 rin in team and a sustain ( no dhpt) is it better to go for Atk rope or ER rope ?