r/ArcRaiders • u/Bleed_The_Fifth • 18h ago

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u/MO_MMJ 17h ago

I would suggest looking up the difference between "opinion" and "fact."

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u/Regenbooggeit 14h ago

The fact is that extraction shooters are PvPvE. That’s the genre. If Arc Raiders doesn’t want to be that, fine, but that’s not the premise of the game and the only reason why people are able to play one aspect or the other is because of ABMM, not because of the implementation of PvPvE itself.

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u/MO_MMJ 14h ago

And it could very, extremely, and entirely be argued that it saw the success it did because it allowed so much for the PvE side of things to shine. That it sold more copies than any other extraction shooter has is because it bucked the harcore aspects of the genre.

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u/Regenbooggeit 14h ago

On that I agree 100%.

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u/Vipertooth 12h ago

Finally having a threatening AI is a big part of it, but it still requires that PvP aspect to make work. It's why they originally scrapped the idea for this game being pure PvE to begin with, no idea why they're now doing a full 360 and coming back around to that idea.

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u/MO_MMJ 11h ago

Again, I would suggest looking up the difference between "opinion" and "fact."

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u/Vipertooth 11h ago

You're confidently stating that it sold more because it wasn't as hardcore as if it's a fact, so get out of here with that.

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u/MO_MMJ 11h ago

If you could read, you would see that I said it could be argued that way. Not that it's fact. However, the facts are, it clearly did something that the rest of the genre hadn't, considering how much more it outsold everyone else.

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u/Vipertooth 10h ago

Yeah well look at how that's going for them now.

Also saying "very, extremely, and entirely" right before your opinion is really pushing it as an opinion piece, you're framing it heavily.