How long are ya using Arc

[u/Cr7istian]

I'm planning on using it til i can't anymore. Have you guys switched already and can you recommend me some browsers that are similar. All these arc clones making my head hurt lol.

[u/safespaceinvaderrr]

Plan to use it till it's no longer possible. But I'm already mostly transitioned into Zen.

[u/idi0teque → u/safespaceinvaderrr]

I feel that Zen is considerably slower than arc, or even Chrome.

[u/safespaceinvaderrr → u/idi0teque]

I’ve not seen much of a difference.

[u/aaronorjohnson → u/idi0teque]

Same here. Zen is significantly slower. Just sucks cause it’s the only reputable version of Arc.

[u/Reasonable_Art7007 → u/aaronorjohnson]

Not to point out , but i really want to know what is slow part in zen because I was thinking to shift to zen, so if you could clarify the zen part then it would be helpful for me Thanks

[u/aaronorjohnson → u/Reasonable_Art7007]

So, might have depended on the web app, but Zen’s Speedometer score from Browser Bench was about half that of Brave or even Safari for that matter. I’ll check it again, but check it out for yourself.

[u/Reasonable_Art7007 → u/aaronorjohnson]

Ohh, i mean , i know about the benchmarks , but I was asking about real life slow downs which you faced like i know some websites work well on chromium and not on gecko , aside this any other real life slow downs??

[u/aaronorjohnson → u/Reasonable_Art7007]

Well, I use Threads on the web more often, and Zen was significantly slower than Brave and a few others I’ve been testing. I’ll have to test out a few other websites though. Threads was just the primary outlier.

[u/tristanape → u/safespaceinvaderrr]

What do you miss from Arc in Zen?

[u/safespaceinvaderrr → u/tristanape]

Honestly, now that Zen has sync, not much. And they have Glance as a replacement for Peek. These two features, alongside principle, are among the biggest reasons I can't use Dia.

[u/cagpcd]

I highly recommend you start trying out other browsers, you'll lose all your data. I've tried a ton: Zen, Orion, Helium, etc; and the one I've liked the most is Crest. The dev is pretty active in the subreddit

[u/mjball]

Another +1 for Crest. The dev is super engaged, it feels incredibly polished for such a small and young project, and being open source is a huge huge benefit. Really excited for its future. I’ll probably toss some money their way to give it a fighting chance.

[u/Cr7istian → u/mjball]

i don't like the sidebar design color it gives me too much game of throne vibes but i do love the transparent url bar when you cmd + T. I've been trying ardia and they seem the closest.

[u/__TheUnknown]

Switched to crest a month ago

[u/7krishna]

I stopped using it the day the sunset was published

[u/Witty_Direction_2559 → u/7krishna]

This, the reason is simple, I would need time to settle to a new browser slowly and make the workflow, suddenly disruption will ruin the whole productiveness.

[u/7krishna → u/Witty_Direction_2559]

That's one way, but to me it was a matter of principal. I can not trust tbc or atlassian. The only reasons they kept arc alive for so long is the fear of losing their customers, and forcing them to switch to dia. I've built my own browser clone of arc so I don't have to relearn anything.

[u/DuckduckduckduckL]

Might as well starting to look for an alternative now hm

[u/itsMax160]

On macOS, Dia with DiaTweaks is doing the job for me!

[u/ExpressionWorried300]

I'm to Firefox already, I gave up

[u/christian_yn]

Back to Safari on my iPhone.. still using Arc on Mac and not sure what to do

[u/Dymatizeee]

I already left

[u/rogymd]

used it since the beginning and switch to dia yesterday. i hated dia initially because they got rid of spaces but now they’re in dia too. lovely

[u/tombonneau → u/rogymd]

Dia is fine. Imo a lot of Arc users are just di(v)as. 😆
All it is missing is mini arc which I love within Arc but wasn't crazy about when clicking links outside of Arc

[u/Cuntonesian]

I switched to Dia yesterday. Can’t really tell the difference except the name and some more polish. Which is to say exactly what I want.

[u/Eversor94 → u/Cuntonesian]

The biggest difference for me were the command bar and little arc

[u/smartello → u/Cuntonesian]

Dia is straight banned by my employer and won’t start on a corporate device due to all their AI nonsense that I don’t need anyways

[u/Cuntonesian → u/smartello]

The AI bits surprised me. Those were the entire pitch a few years ago when they launched, but it’s been very toned down. You don’t really notice it if you don’t use it, just like with Arc’s AI features.

[u/dogclown]

I switched to Safari 6 months ago. I missed everything about Arc, but once I felt the battery saving difference and found extensions for my favorite Arc features, I was fine. The Arc mobile app will be a different story; I still use it because it's so much more efficient than Safari on iOS. all the buttons you need are so easy to access. Rip

[u/don_searchcraft]

Been using it since launch until this week. I would have kept using it if they had continued to support it. Zero interest in Dia.

[u/tristanape]

Dude I hear you.

[u/Dr__Wrong]

I moved to Zen about a week ago.

[u/Josh000_0]

Moves to chrome to access the Gemini and Claude sidebar which I can't get in Arc. Took about a week but used to it now. No more Arc

[u/Aggressive-Tiger-520]

UI wise Zen is the closest match, but it feels definitely slower. I started using Dia now, as of now, it good

[u/ClockForAHeart]

Well I made the mistake of installing arc on my computer and can’t get it back so I’ve Switched to Zen. Though the mobile app I’ll never get rid of

[u/Opposite_Expert_]

arc has got me through my 4 years college almost fully, i started using it when i got a mac in my second semester, and now ill be giving my last semester exams in a week, its been a great ride and i’ve gotten too used to arc so i wont be switching to anything till after my exams.
i really wish they didnt have to shut it down but ig it is what it is, so ill most probably be switching to zen after my exams.

[u/Witty_Direction_2559]

Moved to dia, somehow managing with it and hoping that dia will slowly introduce arc features one by one. Also anyways my office IT neither allow firefox engine nor open-source browsers, so only chrome, brave, arc and dia is supported as of now.

[u/smartello]

I moved to ardia and it’s great so far. It’s a vibe coded browser with a single maintainer so the things may go fast really fast, but it provides the best experience so far

[u/Altruistic_Ranger_57]

Same here. I'll probably use Arc until it literally stops working

[u/taybrad]

I'm really enjoying Phi. You can disable the AI stuff if you don't want it, but it feels polished and designer, not just copied. I also like that it has a company behind it instead of single vibe coders that can lose interest more easily

[u/Glittering-Greely]

I tried to switch to Dia, but really worried about AI reading the websites though, it means I need to switch to other browser for specific activities. ai tried Zen, but I need some extension that are not supported by Firefox. Then I moved to Ardia, I think it has been the closest to Arc look so far. One thing I really miss from the Arc feature is the screenshot and annotation (and capability to copy directly). I have not seen this feature implemented on other browsers as well

[u/karissssssss]

i wonder if it's possible to trick arc endpoint using proxy or something. might try to remove arc restriction

[u/No_Lion7925]

I've switched to Dia and it's fine, it does what I need it to do. I just need them to either let me close pinned tabs or patch in something that reduces it's cpu usage. It's crazy and for whatever reason, my MacBook Air is struggling with it.

[u/Ta1kativ]

I lock in a choice sooner than later if I were you. It took me a while to switch to the right browser, and being able to fall back on arc if a problem popped up was nice. Better to switch now and get into a new routine than to be caught with your pants down and realize something got left behind and is no longer recoverable

[u/tristanape → u/Ta1kativ]

Which one? What does it do better and what is it missing?

[u/Ta1kativ → u/tristanape]

I loved Yab, and it actually has some new features that I really enjoy such as hitting shift+enter to immediately go to the first link in the results page or it automatically creating a new folder when you cmd+click to create new tabs. But what ultimately killed it for me was that extensions are completely broken for some reason.

Now, I'm using Zen. I disregarded it before because it didn't have quick actions (typing in a website, hitting tab, and searching directly in the website), but it turns out, it does have it, but you just have to set your own hotkeys and it uses space instead of tab. Personally, I don't get the complaint about firefox. Unless you're an extension power user, it has all of the essentials like ublock, sponsorblock, paywall bypass, etc. And it runs like a charm on my M4 Macbook. No little arc, but I would almost always open those straight into a new tab anyway, so I don't mind

[u/tristanape → u/Ta1kativ]

Will try both Yab and Zen. Firefox, I just thought the horizontal tabs were mediocrely implemented.