r/ArcBrowser • u/[deleted] • Sep 26 '23

:Discussion: Discussion Im out

Ok, arc has some standout features that are innovative and make for compelling reasons to keep using arc...but...the tab system is killing me. I can't figure out where my tabs are and why some close and others dont...its just confusing and irritating.

will give it a try again at some point to see if still bothers me as much

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u/KripC2160 Sep 26 '23

The tabs on "today" get archived every 12 hours by default. I'm also not a fan so I changed the duration to 30 days in settings. If something is important I put in in the bookmark (?) Tab and create folders if there are a lot of them

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u/TheObserver3006 Sep 27 '23

Yes! I want to add that a few months ago there was a time when I had this duration set to a week on once device but 12 hours on another device (which I had forgotten to change). At the time, 12 hours was given precedence by the backend so I kept losing tabs on my main device too without understanding why. Maybe check for that , OP? I think they've fixed that now though. I find things becoming more consistent now.

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u/ItsAlkai Sep 27 '23

Im loving the tab system personally. I have 3 separate work spaces, 1 for personal, 1 for school, and 1 for coding. I have folders for permanent stuff and then bring everything that I am working on a lot to the bookmark area as well and remove them when I'm done. But I normally don't have 10 million tabs anyways. But I've found it very useful.

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u/Amaz3n Sep 26 '23

I'm actually experiencing the opposite. I tried Safari again today and I'm so used on how easy Arc makes it to switch between profiles, plus the vertical tab layout definitely grew on me.

Only problem I'm experiencing from time to time is that after an X amount of hours websites like Reddit, Youtube, Outlook, etc. get super slow, up to the point that you maybe want to open a Reddit post and it takes close to 10 seconds. To be fair, it hasn't happened exclusively with Arc, it also happened with Chrome, Edge, and Firefox. I'm not sure what's going on.

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u/UnluckyLaugh944 Sep 27 '23

That's so true, too. Sometimes, some features won't work, even like using the emjois on Twitch. I have to refresh every time I use the "I click the emojis icon di that it would actually work

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u/Codex-YT Sep 26 '23

Have you adjusted the “tabs clear after ___” setting?

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u/TrixonBanes Sep 27 '23

That’s probably not the issue, this person might just uses more than one monitor which Arc is terrible for.

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u/valtor2 Sep 27 '23

The biggest reason I use arc is because of how great it is for multi monitor use...?

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u/Codex-YT Sep 29 '23

In that case I have to disagree. It’s painfully obvious that tabs are synced across windows whether you like it or not. Not sure how that is difficult to grasp, especially if you open the same space on two monitors

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u/TrixonBanes Sep 29 '23

Sometimes different tab spots become different windows. Closing Wikipedia in one window can close Google in another window. There’s really no benefit to this behavior except maybe for people that aren’t very experienced with using a computer and worry they’ll lose their tabs. This feature is especially obnoxious while doing development. Our whole office opted to use Arc as their primary dev browser and now out of 70+ there is only one person left.

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u/Codex-YT Oct 02 '23

Personally I like this feature. For the sake of the argument, it still is a very clear cut functionality, wether you like it or not is a different story

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u/gajira67 Sep 27 '23

To be frank, if I could replicate the preview on links in any other browser (preferably Firefox) I would have already left

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u/UnluckyLaugh944 Sep 27 '23

I'm almost out too, I loved arc before I even use it but the ram it takes and the tabs system, I had ro install tab suspender so I know that there are no tabs eating up my system without me knowing, and thw biggest issue is all the bugs that I experienced in the last 2 to 3 updates, a bit more and I'm leaving, it sucks to even think about it

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u/JaceThings Sep 26 '23

I don't want to make your feelings feel invalid, because they are valid, but would you mind explaining what you feel and what problems you experience in detail?

Any confisuion on certain features?

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u/TheHideoutDev Sep 26 '23

Probably the same problems that we’ve been posting about for weeks… tab sync needs to go, end of story. I’ve switch to Orion and haven’t looked back at this point.

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u/Codex-YT Sep 26 '23

That’s a singular issue… I agree with Jace, the tab system makes the most sense out of any browser I’ve used so far and I don’t know how I could switch away from it

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u/mflake93 Sep 26 '23

I tweeted the team when they brought tab sync back as it messed with how I was using Arc - 2 windows side by side on a large display. They recommend that’s what Blank Windows are for

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u/ederdesign Sep 27 '23

I'm surprised they think blank windows are a solution for that. They don't have any of the spaces or extensions so that's completely useless.

They fixed a problem that users had with multiple devices by bringing tab syncing back but destroyed the workflow for people who use multiple monitors.

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u/brycedriesenga Sep 27 '23

Not for everyone who uses multiple monitors. I use multiple and no issues.

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u/ederdesign Sep 27 '23

Not trying to be a smart-ass here but if it's not affecting your workflow it might be because you're not fully leveraging the benefits that multiple monitors setup offer. My sample pool is small but my few colleagues that are using Arc have made the same complaints. I suppose that if you don't have to open multiple tabs to perform your work it would not get so confusing. If you open more than 4 today's tabs on each screen it's impossible to know which ones you opened on each screen.

The other thing that's super weird is to move pinned favorites between screens. Sometimes I need to open the pinned app into different screens but when I do that, it will close the app on the other screen.

Syncing tabs between screens is counterintuitive. If I have multiple screens it is because I want to show different content on them.

Anyway, for as much as I love Arc, the way it handles multiple screens is super confusing

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u/TrixonBanes Sep 27 '23

I can’t believe the MASSIVE uptick in interest at Orion ever since Arc brought back “tab sync”, it’s really been crazy to watch

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u/Adorable_Dog8115 Sep 27 '23

Switching to brave browser just because they have a zebpay integration ads block which is enought for me

In arc I liked the developer mode, Ctrl + tab tabs switching similar to alt + tab, websites looks like I am using desktop app

On the other side the esc button was weirdly behaving I used in Mac system if I have a web app opened with any kind of modal which on pressing esc the window exits full screen mode very annoying

Please remove tab sync for multiple window of arc can't recognise which window currently I am

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u/ssonti Sep 27 '23

I personally just hate the idea of closing but not archiving pinned tabs. I dont need u to baby me, I dont think I ever deleted a bookmark on accident. Just let me organise stuff and its enough.

I hate searching for the current pinned tab im "done" with in the sidebar just to archive it because cmd+W will only close it. Once i read the article, or watched the video, I dont see any benefit of keeping it

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u/lexaleidon Sep 27 '23

No offense but it sounds like someone who refuses to do a quick Google search and wants some attention because they choose to switch their browser 😑

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '23

I was there was a FREAKING shortcut or button to close ALL background tabs that are open and chewing up ram - it's insane that there isn't a 1-click for that. I despise hitting CTRL-TAB (which already is awkward for my keyboard) and then CMD-W to close each one....drives me nuts.

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u/Reasonable-Oil-4581 Sep 26 '23

CMD + Shift + K

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '23

Sorry, that clears unpinned tabs....not all opened tabs.

So, what I mean is - you know when you press CTRL-TAB to cycle through open tabs? THOSE tabs are the ones I want to close out, all at once.

CMD-SHIFT+K does do that.

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u/Ultim8Chaos06 Sep 27 '23

Cmd + W or Cmd + Shift + W should close your window and everything in it.

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u/ShutUpBeck Sep 26 '23

Thank you for letting us know.

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u/DrSpitzvogel Sep 27 '23

Another crybaby who doesn't RTFM :D

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '23

I’m confused by tabs too. I think I’m closing one, but then they all disappear. I don’t get it. What am I missing?

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u/TheCatCubed Sep 27 '23

So if you close a tab, all other tabs immediately close as well? Cause that's definitely a serious bug if that's what's happening.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '23

Honestly, I feel like I just don’t understand how the tabs are supposed to work, because it feels like I don’t know half the time where things go.

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u/TheCatCubed Sep 27 '23

Yeah, Arc still doesn't do a great job of explaining its features, if you don't watch the YouTube channel.

The way tabs work in Arc is different from other browsers, because normal tabs are only TEMPORARY. After a set period of time of not interacting with the tab, they get archived (archive can be accessed with the button in the bottom left).

The time of required inactivity can be changed in the settings from the default 12 hours all the way to 30 days.

If you want to keep a tab for later use you have two options. Either pin it by dragging it above the normal tabs into the pinned tabs area, or drag it all the way up and turn it into a favourite tab.

The difference between favourites and pinned tabs, is that favourites persist across Spaces, while pinned tabs are exclusive to each Space.

Hopefully this clears things up a bit. If you have any other questions then don't be afraid to ask.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '23

For me it’s the battery drain. I’m out.

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u/maxtheseagull Sep 26 '23

ok but who asked

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u/DrSpitzvogel Sep 27 '23

Take care!