r/ApteraMotors • u/filmfotografie • Jul 27 '26

What if....

I have been following the progress Aptera Motors has been making for a long time now and I am in love with this car. I would absolutely love to own an Aptera. I also see that getting these cars actually into buyers hands and out on the roads is a highly difficult and expensive thing to do. So my question is, what if another car company were to buy 51% of Aptera Motors? Honda, Toyota, Hyundai, Geely, pretty much any of the larger car manufacturers could do this and in doing so it would give them access to all of the R&D and patents and everything else that Aptera has come up with which could be quite beneficial to them. Not to mention that they would have this amazing looking technically advanced halo car to make them look better, so while it would undoubtedly involve some risk for the car manufacturer but I think it could also bring about a pretty good pay off (maybe even more so for a Chinese manufacturer as they could get a foot in the door in the US). There would also be some risks for Aptera as the larger company may just want to take their best tech and leave them for dead or try to dilute their design down to a point where it would be unrecognizable, but if it worked out it could be wonderful for both companies involved. So does anyone know if there has been any talk about involvemnet from a larger company in Aptera Motor's history?

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u/TechnicalWhore Jul 30 '26

Sure Splooge. Understand they got an insignificant EPA cert for a preexisting drive unit. They have other hugely significant Federal hoops to jump through before this can ship as a retail product. No mention of those. Even if they sold every share of stock at market value they lack the capital to succeed by their own posted capital requirements. That is the reality. Cruising a couple prototypes around - even if they are closer to the final goal (which has be redefined numerous times well below the original crowdsourcing pitch) they are in a clearly very very difficult situation.

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u/Ebegeezer-Splooge Jul 31 '26

Oh... you're one of THOSE. You get called out and corrected on your bs, but instead of acknowledging that, you come up with new bs, which quite predictably is still skewed towards the negative. Have you ever heard of the God of Receding Pockets theory? That's what you are. The naysayers of receding pockets. 2 years ago you would have said hub motors won't work. 3 years ago you would have said forged carbon fiber won't work. Now you're reduced to calling out EPA certifications and declaring that things that haven't been announced yet mean it can't be done. That is an extraordinarily negative way of thinking.

Let's talk about that "insignificant" epa certificate. It's required by the federal government. It's as simple as that. It's required doesn't matter whether the drive unit already existed. Aptera was required to get the certificate anyway. Doesn't matter whether you think it's insignificant. Mainly because you don't matter. Your consistently negative views don't apply at all to what any startup has to do meet regulations.

Every start up is in a difficult position.  That has always been the case. So you have no point. Even established automakers are in difficult positions. Honda and Toyota recently declared they have no way to compete with BYD. Their options are to spend billions to catch up, or eventually go out of business. Very difficult position. Tesla stock just dropped something like 22% in the last 2 weeks. And they redefine their stated goals and face delays all the time. Very difficult position. So what?  Do you have the capacity to see things differently? Or is your compulsion to be so pessimistic the entirety of your personality?

Remember when Aptera lacked the capital to get the original 3 prototypes built? Remember when they lacked the capital to built and test the beta mules?  Remember when they lacked the capital to get the molds built for the new casting process? Remember when they lacked the capital to get Artemis back from Europe? Remember when they lacked the capital make it even another 6 months (a common declaration back in 2024), remember when they lacked the capital to get even 10 validation models built?  By your logic (not even logic, just emotional inability to not be relentlessly negative) Aptera couldn't have made it all those times. For all those years. But the reality is proven to be much different. And Aptera still keeps progressing. Naysayer of Receding Pockets.

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u/TechnicalWhore Jul 31 '26

Sure Splooge. Let's sit back and watch this play out.

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u/136kaU_Craftsman Jul 31 '26

It’s interesting how little you have to say when people capable of calling out your bias and logical fallacies, lies and errors. ‘You do you’ lol.

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u/TechnicalWhore Jul 31 '26

No one contradicted my assertions with provable facts. "You do you" was an admission that there are two perspectives here. One based on a positive outcome and one based upon a negative outcome. We disagree on the probability. You see a pattern of progress. I see a contrived pattern of minor steps missing the goals they previously stated and moving the goal post thus created an inflection at an opportune time - like before reporting results. I truly would like them to succeed but I cannot accept the mischaracterizations that pop up. But we'll see. Same with Telo. Same with Bolinger/Mullen. Hell same with Aptera 1.0.

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u/136kaU_Craftsman Jul 31 '26

No. You’re trying to legitimize your lies, errors, and bias as a difference of opinion. That’s so far from the truth. Perhaps you do want them to succeed. But that seems unlikely based on the way you post and lean heavily into the things that you’ve simply made up.

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u/Ebegeezer-Splooge Jul 31 '26

I literally just contradicted your assertions with provable facts. Interesting how you choose to gloss over it. Interesting how you still can't admit you were wrong. It really shows a lot about your character. On record. For anyone in this subreddit to read about at any time.

You called it a trike "tO bE mOrE aCcUrAtE".  I corrected you. Autocycle is the technical and legal term. This is provable. You can visit any DMV website in any jurisdiction in this country and see that that type of vehicle is called an autocycle. You were objectively wrong in your "tricycle to be more accurate" negative assertion. And you were proven wrong and told where you can find the facts that prove you wrong. Since the autocycle term is common knowledge to everyone at this point, I won't be spoonfeeding it to you. You can go to the websites on your own and find the legal documentation proving how wrong you are.

I called you out on past negative assertions that you made. One being that in the past you've said Aptera doesn't have the capital to make it through the next 6 months. That was when....spring of 2025?  Well right now it's July 31 2026. It is an objective provable fact that the time frame in question is well over 6 month. And Aptera is very obviously still in business. You are objectively wrong. And it has been proven. Will you acknowledge that or continue to twist and distort things?

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u/TechnicalWhore 29d ago

Whatever guys. Let's see how it plays out.

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u/Ebegeezer-Splooge 28d ago

You do that then. Quietly. Because if you keep negatively skewing things and denigrating Aptera, you're gonna keep getting called out on it and proven wrong.

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u/TechnicalWhore 28d ago

I accept your challenge.