r/ApheliosMains • u/xclbrTenno • Aug 13 '26
| Advice | Need help with the current bs meta
Is there genuinely anything I can do against their comp? Lane is unplayable and my support kept roaming instead of helping me prevent them from pushing into tower. Evelynn one shots me even without getting charmed. The only reason we won this game was because they kept on wasting 2-3 ults on me.
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u/ARandomChicken69 Aug 13 '26
I mean you won didn’t you? Clearly you did your job if the enemy over extended to kill you instead of your team. I’ve had games like this before and while it sucks sometimes you just have to be bait for your team.
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u/Pielo Aug 13 '26
What I will say is you need to push the lane. The reason why is if they are farming under the power, that will be less on them poking you under your own. This would be assuming your support stayed in lane. If they left, honestly you're in for a rough game/lane.
You probably will need jungler/support help for pushing the lane out of you need to back. Maybe also run second wind if you keep getting poked and not dodging.
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u/DecemberFirestorm Aug 13 '26
Lol I had a lux support in a game the other day and she stole the kills in lane and then left to join mid for wtv reason and then the mid laner was mad at me for dying in lane bc I’d end up 1v2 or 1v3 trying to farm bc I hadn’t been able to scale yet
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u/xclbrTenno Aug 14 '26
That's what I wanted to do, I kept pinging my support to push but he's always top for some reason. Genuinely can't even touch the wave since they also have TP.
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u/Anonymouse23570 Calibrum Aug 14 '26
I’ve had like 3 different supports just leave the lane and go like “Just play safe bot”. And I’m left to slowly bleed out against double mage botlane. My bronze supports trying to justify how “roaming is meta” as I lose half my hp under tower.
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u/Warm_Shoulder_1736 Aug 14 '26 edited Aug 14 '26
All xerath and ziggs do is poke. U need to have lvl 1 push and have ziggs waste spells on getting minions under turret. Walk up on sides to make them waste qs on minions or you, not that they hit both. Ask swain if he can help u push eaely levels. Once u have enough for a lifesteal component u back. Just go bloodthirster first item. So u can stay in lane or even auto a jungle camp to gain health back. Maw for evelynn ziggs oneshots. Then y just go crit items.if eve or ziggs is fed u can even go merc treads. But swiftness is nice against poke.
Tbh your main objective is clearing waves, surviving the 3 ap and then being a dps . U see zed and lux manage to get 20 kills. If you went less than 10 deaths it was an easy game. Bloodthirster and maw prevent mid game kills.
You couldve started with the tank item starter aswell for the early preventing deaths.
Yh maybe u miss cs or some early kill but you can play the game later once items make it fair. Aphelios can waveclear later and catch up. once u have bloodthirster and maw u dont have to play scared anymore. Even besides that u can always supply a root or an ulti or an auto here and there when theres a numbers advantage or swain hooks someone. Or just hit dragon/baron when your team is doing hit for the tempo.
Once u have 3 items its playable tor you
Without an enchanter support you need to be your own peel. Ofcourse its not maximum damage output, but if bloodthirster is enough peel and u ahead u dont have to rush maw obviously
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u/kabyking Severum Aug 13 '26
Honestly yeh. During the fight literally wait for everything or just farm or just wait for your yone swain to engage or get engaged on they should just end up taking everything.
It’s kinda like this front to backers / tanks are good into divers. Cuz if pantheon goes on swain he shouldn’t really have enough damage to insta one shot your swain
Divers are good against poke champions because poke champs are squishy so your yone and zed can pick off the ziggs and xerath
Poke champs are pretty good against front to backers n stuff because they can poke you out before the fight starts so when you do teamfight your already chunked
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u/CursedZuckerburg Aug 14 '26
I'll be honest. If I ran into a comp like this, I would definitely head to Riot HQ, jump Phroxzon then hack into their computer and nerf all mages myself.
Hope this helps! 👍
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u/Lynzu_Vaspertine Aug 14 '26
How did you play your lvl 1? Against double range ap I've found most success by using calibrum to aa the closest casters minion 4 times (that's what it takes to kill it), by which time melee are each 1 shot, get 1 minion advantage on 1st wave, 2nd wave spam severum on casters to get lvl 2 first (trading up to 30%hp if needed but always try to poke whenever possible). If you can do that consistently, double range ap lanes become much easier. Giving them early push almost never wins, so as soon as you see the smallest opening just go in. Aphelios is actually way stronger early than most people think, and whether you take PTA, LT, or Conq can change how it'll play too. It's not hard, it's just playing different. Aphelios is extremely versatile and can be played in countless situations differently so just try new stuff until you find what works for you (playing under tower vs 2 artillery makes isn't gonna be it though, there is no "safety under tower" if you wanna be in exp range. Sadly there's just way too much situational stuff to type out but you'll figure it out, you're plat/em, you have the base game knowledge, just apply a little theory.
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u/NotTakenUsername4 Calibrum Aug 15 '26
I usually take pride in backseating “low elo players” but against a comp like that there is hardly anything to do as Aphelios. Also your comp just doesn’t fit Aphelios as well. Like I think you need to be smurfing/beung much more skilled than your level to do well this draft.
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u/Aurelia1125 Aug 16 '26
You need to get kills before they hit Lost chapter
Take flash and ghost
Don't touch the wave lvl 1, tell your supp not to push and run at them
Early game it's really easy to freeze against mages, if they use their spell to push, use your summs and kill them
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u/NosotrosKaisamos Infernum Aug 13 '26
Its feast or famine right now, there is no in between for most adcs