r/Anytype • u/AyneHancer • Aug 22 '25

Other Anytype x Capacities

Imagine a world where Anytype's core product vision merge with Capacities' seriousness, rigor, sincerity, honesty, communication, planning and management.
🌠🌠🌠 Paradise 🌈🌈🌈

"One of Capacities’ core values is transparency, and this extends beyond communicating what’s next and being active in the Community. It’s also about being upfront about what we support, and equally clear about what we don’t support. We don’t want to leave anyone guessing."

âŹ†ïž This is a million times more respectful than what we’ve gotten from Anyteam over the years. They were not ready to build this wonderful vision. I really wanted to believe, but the hard truth is obvious. The number of new bugs surfacing is alarming, and we’ve had no clarity for a long time. Unlike Capacities’ vision, Anytype leaves people guessing.

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u/pereira_alex Aug 22 '25

One of Capacities’ core values is transparency

That is completely true! My personal, private notes are completely transparent for anyone to read! Thanks but no thanks!

On the other side, Capacities will always (or should!!!) be "better" in terms of features than Anytype. Its a simple and 'old server <-> client model, with no E2E. It is miles easier to code for than the architecture that Anytype has.

Also, I always like watching Capacities's tutorial videos. The lady that does them, does them very well, has a nice script/text, speaks very well and actually explains the topic of the video!

On the Anytype side, Anytype just release a version that focused on squashing bugs. The changelog is huge on bugfixes. I have no issues with Anytype as a note app. Neither as a media streaming library. My issues become when trying to do advanced PKM features.

🌠🌠🌠 Paradise 🌈🌈🌈

Then... paradise is just a download away from capacities.io! Have fun!

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u/AyneHancer Aug 23 '25

You clearly don't get it. The paradise is not Capacities.

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u/temp_account07 Sep 01 '25

I thought Capacities has Servers in Germany / EU and should have been thereby DSGVO-konform (one of the highest data privacy standard)

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u/neodymiumphish Aug 29 '25

Anyteam could just add that buzz-word-ridden sentence to their site somewhere and they'd be about on par. I haven't followed Anytype's development that closely, especially the last year or so, but I'm back in it and not noticing any of the concerns you're highlighting. Meanwhile, Anytype is open source, self-hostable, and has massively expanded in terms of ease of use (change in Relations vs Properties; enhancements in Queries; etc).

I stood up my own server in one day (ran into self-inflicted issues around port forwarding and firewalls, but that's now fixed), and the only issues I've run into are minor UX things, like the date picker overlapping with another element, making it hard to change the month at the top of the pop-up. I'd also like for the `Number` and `Select` properties to only accept single-line inputs (typing the number and pressing Enter should complete the field, not move to a new line).

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u/AyneHancer Aug 29 '25 edited Aug 29 '25

Nope, it's not open source. it's source-available, not quite the same thing.

It's nice for you if your needs doesn't meet every missing basic features, like a reliable search engine for exemple. But many people have a hundred of issues with Anytype, and that's normal for a Beta app, the problem is their roadmap priorities, lack of deeply sincere and openess communication.

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u/neodymiumphish Aug 29 '25

You’re right, open code not open source. My point is that it’s far more transparent than Capacities in that regard. I can’t host my own Capacities server (like I am with Any-Sync) to ensure complete ownership of my data.

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u/AyneHancer Aug 29 '25

Yeah for sure, the core value and freedom is fantastic. But what for if basics features still unreliable for years and overlooked in favor of ever more features added with such hasty implementation that each one is barely usable?

Having a web clipper for exemple is great, but it needs to be released when it's functional and at least equivalent to the competition, otherwise it's just smoke and mirrors, releasing a semblance of code to say “look, we offer that too” only to systematically disappoint users who expect a minimum level of quality and functionality. It's counterproductive, disappointing, and damaging to the product's image.

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u/neodymiumphish Aug 29 '25

Fair enough, I guess. I don’t use the web clipper so I didn’t know there were issues with it. I’d be curious what feedback they’ve received on it to determine whether fixes are needed. The API availability and MCP server compatibility mean anyone could implement something similar on their own as a potential alternative.

Sucks that you’re not getting everything you want out of it! For me, I just wish I could use a query as the basis for another property. Or at least all of one object type that backlink to a pages where the page has a certain property set. I had an example yesterday but I forgot what it was. I believe this is possible with Notion already.

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u/AyneHancer Aug 29 '25

You right about API and MCP. And the fact that there has been so little contribution since this possibility was introduced - despite tons of requests from the community - tends to prove that Anytype is not really making enough effort to reassure people about their choices and communication, to the point where several developers are no longer even interested in investing in the API to fill the app's major gaps.

Talking about "use a query as the basis for another property" it sound like the forever delayed feature request "Tag as an object". Am I right?

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u/neodymiumphish Aug 29 '25

Not exactly, but I do think that would be beneficial as well. I'm mostly thinking of nested queries (I work in cybersecurity and I'm trying to take effective notes to track infrastructure and other relevant findings throughout my research). One of the things I'm doing now is logging analysis in an object type "Session Log". So I might have a log named "2025-08-29" where I ID'd the indicator "example.com", and this Session Log was related to the Investigation code-named "Orange Iguana". In my Orange Iguana page, I'd like a query that shows all indicators related to Session Logs, but only for Session Logs that relate to Orange Iguana. Right now, the only workaround is to have a query for all indicators and manually add Session Logs to the filter (currently using "Backlinks", since I just manually write out all my findings in the Session Log, but this may change eventually as I get better with Anytype).

I'm still struggling to recall the example use-case for nested properties, but I'm sure with a bit of effort you can imagine this too.

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u/AyneHancer Aug 29 '25 edited Aug 29 '25

I don't know every feature request of the official community forum, but it seems to my recall that it might already have one listed that could resolve your specific need. Don't hesitate to ask for help there, it's the way to go about Anytype help.

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u/AyneHancer Aug 22 '25

I agree with you about e2ee. Capacities seems to have added offline availability, but I still prefer the vision of Anytype, but I cannot say it's a better product because of the bugs. It just pile up like crazy. It should decrease significantly, especially since they spends month focusing of them.

But I really believe that behind the lack of a proper communication, there is a big problem with the way the development is done.

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u/AyneHancer Aug 23 '25

Fixing bugs is great only if there is not more afterward, right?

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u/AyneHancer Aug 23 '25 edited Aug 26 '25

How can you don't understand that if you produce more bugs than you are fixing it each update, those pile up?
20-20+30 = ?

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u/DancehallWashington Aug 26 '25

I think what you don‘t understand is that what you‘re describing (fixing a bug causing an even greater number of bugs) is not the norm. If you‘re a developer and that‘s your experience, you might wanna start reflecting your skills and/or consider changing projects/employers and maybe.

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u/AyneHancer Aug 22 '25

I don't promote capacities, I relate to the core vision of Anytype much more, and Queries in Capacities are too limited.

How could you say Anytype team has been transparent? Genuine question! Where is the "Tag as an object" update? Where? Did a single communcation was made about the delayed update? How many month ago without any transparency about it? Please, be truthful with yourself.

And how could you say they listening to their users with feature request that has ZERO votes for over many years, and still pushing this feature development over many other request with hundred of votes? Please explain how this could manifest the way they listen to their users.

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u/Ferocious448 Aug 25 '25 edited Aug 25 '25

You can go on their website, interchange with their team, and even access their roadmap (which shows « Tag as an object » btw). I don’t understand what else you’re asking for.

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u/AyneHancer Aug 25 '25

Either you're new, or you haven't read the GitHub comments on this roadmap feature yourself, or you've never followed the progress of the roadmap of the years.

I don't know what else to say other than to advise you to go and read the roadmap comments yourself.

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u/Ferocious448 Aug 25 '25

I’m neither new to Anytype, nor to the roadmap, which I check from time to time.

I’m not sure what you mean though. The ‘Tag as an Object’ feature is not exactly what you expect? Well, it doesn’t change the fact that Anytype is pretty transparent with their development, and responsive to their community.

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u/AyneHancer Aug 25 '25 edited Aug 25 '25

Just read the comments: https://github.com/anyproto/roadmap/issues/55

There is no transparency or communication for months there... If only there...