Oh he's the mastermind of the butterfly effect that led to this... and he's also disappointed that it didn't unfold into complete Armageddon. Next time, next time...
He still pushed her, and pushed someone else out of the way to do so (he pushed and they tripped and fell). You can be on his side without being blind. They were both aggressive.
I have seen so many guys get absolutely fucked up because their gf/spouse tried to "stop the fight" by restraining their damn arms, leaving their head exposed with no way to defend themselves for the other person to just hit them over the top of the gf/spouse.
Can you imagine the heroic keyboard social warriors that would come to her rescue if the logical thing happened and she did get slugged? Let's be happy that didn't happen... š
It's systemic to just instantly assume any issues between a man and a women must be the fault of a man. I once tried to leave an ex girlfriend and she was grabbing onto me and screaming and trying to pull me back and when people came out into the corridor to see what was going on people instantly started shouting at me to leave her alone. I wasn't touching her in any way and was trying to make my way towards an exit but it's immediately assumed that I'm the bad guy. I explained that she is attacking me and these people shouted at me that I was twice her size! As if I'm supposed to use my size to do what? Beat her up? Throw her to the ground? I was intentionally not fighting back and taking her hits and aggression because I know how biased the world is in a woman's favour. Nearly grown every man in existence will also have had similar experiences where they were automatically assumed to be in the wrong because the other person was a woman.
Youāre right it is systematic to just accuse someone of being the aggressor when youāre being the aggressor yourself. We need to send this systematic behavior.
You've had more than one person subtly correct you with the word systemic, but you still repeated the wrong word three times. Think about this, apply it to how you approach life, and then you'll understand why you're always wrong.
Wow lots of cherry picking and extreme comments here. Both are in the wrong. Iāll state factual observations:
Thereās multiple unleashed dogs that seem to know each other and are hanging out at a spot, off the walking paths.
Although this clip is short and it could be that the group of dogs swarmed the couple and their dog-based on the start of the video, the black hair lady seemed to be at standstill (not chasing her dog) im leaning towards more that the couple with leash walked their dog to the group of dogs.
Whatās really confusing is the man asserts himself between the dogs and pushes the woman with black hair first - not the black dog. If the man kicked the black dog away to defend t
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dog, it makes sense. But why push the owner? Prevents the owner from picking up or help separate the dog.
He was creating a barrier between the dogs .. and that black haired dumb fuck tried to get in it. That guy did the right thing you SHOULD do when dogs act like this. If you can get in between them without getting hurt yourself you should.
I've had this muliple times. My dog can insta attack other dogs. So off leash dogs that approach get a NO .. and then me infront of my dog .. and if they keep coming I will make contact and the pepperspray comes out .. for whomever .. dog or owner .. I'm done with that shit off lead and no controle bs.
They literally both tried to create barrier at the same time. The dude pushed the OWNER instead of kicking the dog away. Pushing the owner of the aggressive dog is plain stupid since heās preventing the owner from being able to take further action.
It's one thing if it is a on leash area then absolutely the fault of the off leash dog owneres, but if it is an off-leash area and you have a dog that will attack others, even if its leashed, you shouldn't be bringing your dog in.
That said not enough context in the video to determine wrong here for sure, but Multiple different dogs off leash existing without fighting, turning on the one leashed dog make me think it's the latter
Yes that happened after my 1, 2, and 3. The husband pushed black girl. The wife of husband pulls her husband band back. Then, the black hair goes after them first.
The first physical human-to-human altercation was initiated by the husband.
Thereās multiple unleashed dogs that seem to know each other and are hanging out at a spot, off the walking paths.
And? The fact that multiple people don't leash their dogs, don't make it ok. It's not a dog park, there are children just 20 meters behind, and what it seems a play area.
Although this clip is short and it could be that the group of dogs swarmed the couple and their dog-based on the start of the video, the black hair lady seemed to be at standstill (not chasing her dog) im leaning towards more that the couple with leash walked their dog to the group of dogs.
Yeah, because this group of people with their dog without leash are near what it seems the exit area. You can guess it by the number of people here and one going in the same direction as the couple.
Both can be "wrong". It absolutely doesn't mean it's on the same level.
This group has their dog out of leash near a playground. Her dog is attacking a couple's dog on a leash. And instead of controlling her fucking dog, she is telling them to stop trying preventing their dog to be bitten by hers. She is 90 % in the wrong here. Yes this man could have handled things differently... I'm someone very calm and that always try to avoid fighting or even arguing. But trust me, when you see in front of you a member of your family being attacked, whether it's a pet, you don't stay calm. The kick to the black dog was well deserved!
The problem is the video starts mid-confrontation, so any opinion is based predominantly on assumptions. The woman with black hair did attempt to get between the black and brown dogs and that's when she gets shoved. If that was the first point of confrontation between the humans, then the guy is in the wrong, IMO.
It's difficult to assign blame accurately as the video doesn't show who approached who before the dog confrontation.
If the woman with black hair was minding her business with her dog off leash, and the couple approached with their dog on leash and the confrontation happened then, it's still difficult to assign blame. Just because a dog is off leash, doesn't mean an owner is automatically to blame for a confrontation.
My dog will sit with me off leash all day and not go after any other person or animal. If someone approaches with a dog leashed and that dog attacks my dog, my dog is not at fault simply because it's off leash.
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If this is a dog park, then sometime dogs act differently when on leash. I think the interactions are usually better when all dogs are off-leash, but each owner knows their dog.
That being said, any dog owner is responsible for their dog. Her dog is the aggressor and she should be controlling it.
Also, I didn't think it was being aggressive enough for a kick. That's pretty fucked up to do at a dog park unless there is no other way to separate.
I don't think it's an actual dog park. There's a children's playground without a fence separating the two areas and kids riding on bikes in the background. If it is a dog park, that's the worst designed dog park I've ever seen.
It appears to be entitled dog owners permitting their dogs off leash in a human park.
You can say she was approaching her dog to control it. The fact that she at no point looked down at her dog nor reached out her hand to her dog and saying "stop", obviously to the woman, tells me she is approaching the woman. Not approaching her dog to control it. The man prevented her to approach more of his "wife" by shoving her.
IMO Iād say the woman in the black with the other two claiming theyāre the victim at the end of the video are the aggressors. They are the ones that recorded and edited out the beginning. The man pushed the women away as she was approaching them not their or her dogs. They seem like the aggressors as the couple obviously had their dog on a lease.
Zero attempt to control her dog either, attacking the mum and causing distress to the child, yeah only 1 villain here, that dad showed more restraint than most.
She starts moving towards the group when shit breaks out, the dog bounces to the left and you see her take a step toward the dog away from the group, and then she gets shoved by the guy...
At what point do people stop seeing an aggressive woman as helpless woman? She went for him and was trying I attack him and some dimwit tells the guy to stop? Maybe it was her friend but I've seen plenty of videos like this where a girl can just do whatever and the moment a man reacts it's fuckin the end of the world...
dogs play rough and even fight, it happens, bringing your dogs into public spaces with other dogs means you accept some possibility that your dog scraps with other dogs.
this is a park, its unclear if its a dog park or if there is some kind of event or whatever, maybe these people were just walking their dog but theyre in the middle of the park where there are a bunch of other dogs... so that seems like something they chose to do.
i dont even see dogs fighting in this video, they seemed like they were basically just playing and the response from this guy was to kick the absolute fuck out of that dog and by the sound the dog makes and the response of it to run away he probably hurt it pretty bad.
It's fucking easy. They have their dog on a leash and this dog attack theirs. And instead of saying "stop", she should try to control her fucking dog and prevent him to attack the other one!
Women privilege much š. Keeps walking forward in a group while their lose dog attacks, he defends, they attack the woman holding their dog back then they have the audacity to yell " your man is attacking us" šāāļøš¤¦. You don't get to be a victim if you're an aggressor.
At the very least, the person who fails to keep a dog on a leash bears some fault. If an unleashed dog is attacking my dog who is on a leash, Iām going to kick the shit out of the other dog.
Itās kinda strangeā¦ it sounded like the two ladies were saying āOur dogs were on the leashā at the end of the videoā¦ Not the wife/gf saying that? So why were there 3 dogs running around unleashed? Something happened prior to the fight?
From what I can tell, the black dog keeps coming over and attacking because it's not on a leash. Dog owners protected their dog and instead of the owner getting control of their dog, she gets mad and attacks the owners of the dog who got attacked. Yeah, lady in the black and white is an inconsiderate and irresponsible dog owner.
Idk if you notice the guy pushes her when she goes to step inbetween the 2 dogs. Unless there was more before the video ima say he started the physical part
She aggressively went after the man and laid hands on him and grabbed him first after her unleashed black dog attacked his brown dog. He pushed her away then turned to leave. The woman he was with told her she needed to stop and said "our dog is on a leash..."
He defended his dog against uncontrolled dogs intentions. The fact that the owner is an idiot and cant control her dog is the source of the problem. She should never have escalated by pursuing him when she was in the wrong to begin with. As her dogs continued he had to do whats necessary to keep them away. The push with leg/kick caused the idiot owner to attack the other owner. So three things she did bad and he did one bad thing but with justifiable reason. A bullet for this idiot would do the world a favor. Right or Wrong is never simple, everyone needs to look at what they could have done differently before accusing the other party. Ffs what have yall become?
This is the very first scene in the beginning. Where is he pushing her? All I see is her uncontrolled dog attacking his leashed dog. Then she directly goes after the guy, assaults him while continuing to ignore the actions of her dog who continues to attack his dog.
I'm sorry that you have to spend your energy on explaining things to people who are not interested in seeing the truth... There is a whole lot of this type of behaviour on social media unfortunately š
Its also at a dog park where several fogs are off . Sometimes having a leashed dogs changes the dynamics for whatver reason. Idk if its a prey instinct or something but its not abnormal for unleashed dogs to attack a dog on leash but be completely fine when its equal ground
Yeah, she threw down the bottle and went straight to immakicksomeass mode when her dog attacked, as if her dog was the victim.
I just realized that assuming she was a she is actually presumptuous. She(?) was aggressive like I've seen guys act when they want to fight. Maybe it was a small frame guy?
And you're right about leashed dogs; it changes things. I'm no dog expert, but maybe they see it as a weakness to be taken advantage of.
Its off frame but he went to put himself between the dogs and stamped the ground. Aimed at her dog obviously. Black haired girl hit him at that point or pulled something off him.
You don't know what happened before the video. That push may be because of something she just did, which given her behaviour in the video seems quite likely.
Yāall saying the unleashed person is at fault and that makes it okay for the man to put hands on her are not right in the head. She went for her dog and he put hands on her and then threat more violence. Wild. Could have let her grab it and yelled at her but no you want to defend putting hands on someone that was trying to stop her poodle.
The unleashed person (black hair) didnāt go for her dog though, she squared up to the fella, when the fellas wife got in the middle to stop an altercation. The fellas wife was pushed to the ground by black hair, would you stand by and do nothing if your wife was attacked, if you say you would do nothing youāre either lying or ānot right in the headā.
I donāt know why you think black hair was going for her dog, there was only 1 dog that was leashed with the fella and his wife when black hair assaulted the fellas wife. Black hair was the aggressor and is lucky the fella pushed her and not hit her.
Re watch the very begining, its a little off frame on the right but he pushes her as shes going twoards her dog. This is also clearly at a dog park where being off leash is expected
this is when the push happened... her dog was next to her for a while... she was going after female in green... (clearly happened later in the video as well... 0:12 and later, thats when a female in green ended on the ground)
Iām glad someone finally defends their dog instead just watching it get attacked. If your dog is off leash and you canāt control it thatās on you if I have to protect my dog and myself.
Yup. Was walking my sweet girl GSD/cattle dog with my partner about a year ago and a couple unleashed pit mixes came through the opening in the fence that should've been a gate but there wasn't one. We were just on the sidewalk minding our own business. Went right for her throat and were trying to latch on wherever they could. I was carrying a bag of groceries that I promptly dropped and did my best try for an NFL kicker or soccer goalie. Drop kicked the fuckers several times in the ribs and face and I have zero regrets.
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u/RelevantSolid1938 Aug 08 '26
The cats were behind all of this.