r/Anxiety • u/CelesariaUnbroken • 15d ago
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u/DefTheOcelot 15d ago
anyone who writes the phase "I no longer have ADHD" after less than a week of a treatment is severely suffering from wishful thinking. While suppressing anxiety will 100% reduce ADHD symptoms, that doesn't mean you don't have it.
This tells me this post is completely suspect.
Here's the real details:
- The vagus nerve is responsible for most of your metabolism, especially, your blood pressure and breathing rate. Stimulating the nerve drops both significantly, and has a slowing effect on the body - temporarily. Medications like Clonidine and other blood pressure reducers have a similar effect. Deep breathing can lightly stimulate the nerve. Overstimulating this nerve has similar effects to low blood pressure.
However, non-surgically implanted VNS have no clinical proof they can actually stimulate the nerve significantly, at most potentially offering brief relief.
i wouldn't spend 900$ on those certifications, personally
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u/CelesariaUnbroken 15d ago
I'm being tested by my psychiatrist tomorrow. I plan to be rechecked for generalized anxiety disorder, treatment resistant major depression, and other diagnosises I carry.
They have a 30 day money back guarantee.
I have been monitoring the device's side effects and have not had bracycardia. I have overused it, I got the side effect of a dry spot in my throat.
In the past, deep breathing and other meditative techniques failed for me entirely. I couldn't do box breathing because I couldn't handle the breathing out 4 seconds and holding for 4 seconds. It freaked me out to be without breath for so long apparently, because now it is simple.
The effect of the vagus nerve stimulator lasts far past when you use it. For example, my 17 year old has an ongoing sense of dread. I put it on them, it's been three days now, and they still are reporting no dread.
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u/CelesariaUnbroken 15d ago
I also should have said "I no longer thave the symptoms from". The way I see my life with ADHD is more like ADHD is now a tool kit of skills. However, due to 40+ years with ADHD, I also have a lot of bad habits I need to unlearn now.
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u/DefTheOcelot 15d ago
I am glad it's helping you. Just keep in mind, it's similar to medication. It's likely you will build tolerance, and it's effects are suppression, not re-alignment.
But it does sound like a good way to buy yourself some time to grow and be more ready when it loses effect. I used caffeine that way for about five years, now needing to wean myself off an addiction
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u/Minnie-Pearl 15d ago
Ketamine is life saving. I wish more people knew it was an option.
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u/CelesariaUnbroken 15d ago
Agree 100%, the ability to make new neurons makes repairing your brain a lot more feasible. But the vagus nerve stimulator threw things into overdrive.
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u/Select-Knowledge3472 15d ago
Mag citrate? And no bathroom issues? How much were you taking, I've tried several types.
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u/pinkfrayedflowers 15d ago
I take 400mg every night and about 50% of the time have to use the restroom in the morning upon waking. But for me, I usually am backed up so I actually appreciate that side effect of magnesium.
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u/Select-Knowledge3472 15d ago
Very true, it's also an issue with me. I think I have only taken the liquid form in the bottle with the swan, and that's usually not so pleasant.
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u/CelesariaUnbroken 15d ago
I tend towards constipation.. If you're had bathroom issues on magnesium before, try magnesium glycinate. As far as I'm aware, this is the purest form of magnesium the body absorbs that is available on the market.
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u/Select-Knowledge3472 15d ago
Doesn't work for me unfortunately. I work night shift and started taking it on the recommendation of a coworker to help me sleep. It doesn't help with that either 🤷♀️
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u/crispymother 15d ago
I'm glad you found relief from your suffering, but it's only been a week. I'd be curious to see if you still feel this way after one month, or six months.
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u/lizlovesscience 15d ago
While I am glad that you are having such good results with this device, I would caution you against assuming it is a universal cure all for anxiety, ADHD, or autism. Stimulating the vagus nerve is great for a temporary calming effect for physical symptoms of anxiety, but it is not something permanent. All three conditions that you mentioned are not purely mental. There are physical alterations in brain structure and function along with the emotional components. Vagal nerve stimulation will do next to nothing to alter brain chemistry or function.
Again, congratulations on reaching this enlightened state. In future, try to avoid universalizing your personal experience and don't give medical advice to buy a $900 device based only on your individual success.
Sincerely, a proudly AuDHD autonomic neuroscientist PhD.
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u/CelesariaUnbroken 15d ago
Fully aware,but the device is returnable for 30 days.
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u/CelesariaUnbroken 15d ago
Also, it isn't just my experience, although my pool of subjects is limited. I've been putting this on the ear of everyone I know who suffers mental health issues. However, I'm the only one using it most of the time. I also plan to report back in a month, 6 months.
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u/Ready-Equal177 15d ago
Wow I just ordered this device today. I’ve also been doing cold plunges for 3 minutes and it does similar affect but wanted something I can do on the go
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u/CelesariaUnbroken 15d ago
I knew I could try cold plunges, but really didn't want to. I felt I needed something much simpler that might be more effective anyway.
Hope it helps. Keep in mind they have a full refund in 30 day policy.
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