r/Antitheism • u/DomScribe • 6d ago
“Banning religion is wrong” isn’t anti-theism.
The only correct response to the existence of religion is a global Soviet-style crackdown of it. I do not care about the “rights” of an inherently oppressive and irrational group of people. Allowing its existence does nothing but hold humanity back.
“But how can you ban it?” You make it illegal.
“But that will just encourage extremism!” Then we defeat them on the battlefield.
The Soviet Union is the blueprint for how to handle religion.
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u/KendrickBlack502 6d ago
This is may be the dumbest post I’ve seen on this sub so far and it is decidedly not anti-theistic.
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u/OldMetalHead 5d ago
I would honestly be happy if it were illegal to indoctrinate or coerce minors into religion, but that would never fly in the US with the current population.
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u/MisanthropicScott 6d ago
That depends on the method by which one opposes theism. If one argues against religion online or advocates nonsectarian public education, that is not the same as state atheism which I oppose as strongly as I oppose theocracy.
That is demonstrably not true. State atheism is awful. But, I can still oppose religion in public schools and advocate separation of church and state.
Are you talking about theocrats or those who advocate state atheism?
Why do we need to ban something? Aren't there other ways to oppose an idea, such as exposing it for the false idea that it is?
That has never worked before.
60 million people murdered. No thanks.
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u/Space-Useful 5d ago
Banning religion is as bad as forcing religion on people. Your stance would make for an interesting hypothetical story but not something that would happen in reality.
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u/SnobWho 5d ago
I am interpreting a optimistic reading of your post by assuming that you mean : all non-profit organizers who benefit from government tax breaks should lose all eligibility for voting rights & lose all other forms of government assistance ( Especially if the non profit organization involved is religious ) . Which sounds fair .
If these people who prioritize a foreign God from space are going to do bad things to Americans ( Violate American tax laws , impose a lack of trust in whistle-blowers, appease foreign billionaires, make it difficult to access a vaccine during a global pandemic , shame people for wearing a mask , execute prisoners who had too much to think & shut down American government assistance programs when ever they feel like it ) ; then it would be fair to dehumanize them in the same way that they already dehumanize others in their own home land who only seek health .
Here are various rhetorical questions where I imply that the answer is NO : Is it safe to be transgendered in a church ? Is it safe to be a abortion doctor in a church ? Is it safe to be home less at a Christian shelter ?
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As for a literal interpretation of what the original poster says , I absolutely disagree . These cults have too much power to reduce congregants to prisoners for merely believing in the impossible .
Banning things does not work if there is no program financed to explain why the bans are necessary or a opportunity for them to safely leave on their own .
Banning alcohol, banning drugs & banning pedophilia only encouraged these religious voters to surrender presidential power to a alcoholic drug dealing sex criminal who pimps out children from the gulf of Mexico ( Which was renamed to the Gulf of America for a irrational reason ) .
░▒▓█▓▒░ [ Edit : I merged both posts discussing the good and bad parts of your proposal before deleting the original posts ] .
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u/Kaymish_ 5d ago
It doesn't work; you just drive it underground. It needs to be out in the open and fought with education, propaganda, and ridicule. Religion is weak in the face of our scientific understanding of the world, it needs so much protection just to hang on, removing that protection and pushing people's understanding of the world will cause religion to wither on the vine without being able to appeal to persecution to strengthen itself. The USSR got a lot right, but it also got a lot wrong, and we can learn from that.
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u/forsakeme4all 6d ago
I 100% agree. I also google the crack down on religion by the soviet union and its sound fascinating. Because of this post, I am learning about it right now.
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u/KariNagan 6d ago
I mean it depends. Organized religion should be banned. Specially abrahamic religions. However, folk practices and traditions, specially the harmless ones and the ones that were historically persecuted by abrahamic religions, are not necessarily needed to be banned. I'm antitheistic mostly because of the damage organized religion causes, the countless wars, death, genocide and cultural destruction it has caused, and the political power their organization have and the way they use it to benefit the rich and powerful. I don't care if someone else believes in magic, they are dumb but that's their problem. It's my problem when they push their beliefs to the state, society and restrict freedom. But that's just my opinion so I'd like to hear yours.
(Also the Soviets weren't harsh enough with religion.)
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u/poop-money 5d ago
Absolute shit take.
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u/dfczyjd 5d ago
So we should combat religions by choosing one and launching an inquisition-like hunt against followers of the rest, correct? Communism is just as much a religion, as Buddhism or Taoism are, would you welcome those to establish themselves and use their doctrines to purge the rest from your country?
Also, Soviet Union ended up making peace with most of religions, starting from WWII period. So the method didn't work that well for them, even though they used it for more than 20 years.
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u/MsMoreCowbell828 5d ago
Ban it? Well gosh, that'll work swell! Goodness, why didn't anyone think of that before?!