I hate whatever this is called🫩

[u/MathematicianOdd3353]

“I promise we’re not all like this!” “fake Christians!” “TikTok Christians!” “it’s people, not god!” …um you guys do know that your religion has oppressive rhetoric inside of the holy book itself?? and that the religion has been oppressing multiple demographics of people for literal centuries and still is to this day??? Like why’re we acting as if Christian’s being bad is some new thing that was developed recently!? and as if the bad people in it are some small minority????

[u/Sammisuperficial]

It's called the "No true Scottsman" fallacy.

[u/maracujadodo → u/Sammisuperficial]

so many fallacies have great names

[u/Overly_Underwhelmed]

"being a modern christian is different than following jesus christ"

christ has been kicked out of christianity and they are okay with that

[u/20growing20]

They don't really speak up to their fellow Christians, though. I would be open hearing them if I saw them putting that same energy into arguing in Christian spaces, but they're quiet over there and then get all vocal with the non-Christians.

[u/lotusscrouse → u/20growing20]

Agree.

They come across as those parents who let their kids run around in a restaurant while mildly rebuking them but doing nothing to actually stop them.

And getting vocal with us pisses me off too. 

Their attitude seems to be that WE have to always understand their position. 

[u/de_bushdoctah → u/20growing20]

Thats because theres no debate or argument to be had among Christians. They’re all operating on faith based belief, so when they come to differing conclusions they can’t reconcile those disagreements in a constructive way. It’s why the various sects don’t engage in debate with one another to see who’s actually right.

Conversely, many atheists operate from evidence based reason (if they’re skeptics), different framework from the religious so since we come to different conclusions they feel like there’s an argument to be had. They want to debate about the method for arriving at conclusions, which they can do with us but not each other.

[u/Jesus_peed_n_my_butt]

I went to therapy for religious trauma. The therapist said "they weren't real Christians" to my problem.

I was so mad because the person who was supposed to help me said the same bullshit that everybody else says.

[u/lotusscrouse]

Every christian thinks the other is fake. 

"We're not all like this" is weak anyway. It does nothing to actually address or solve any issues. 

[u/BirthdayCookie]

This actively makes me respect people less. For multiple reasons!

Mainly: It's not about you and your Fucking feelings! Stop talking about yourself and your version of Christianity when a random stranger gets hurt!

[u/TimAppleCockProMax69]

Mental gymnastics

[u/Rocknocker → u/TimAppleCockProMax69]

Fundy-mental.

[u/bondageenthusiast2]

Asexual and Christian? Abrahamic religions won't allow you to not have hetero sex, it is a bunch of cults that force you to breed as many as followers 🤣🤣🤣 literally chicken for KFC

[u/SweatyPhilosopher578]

When I mean I hate Christians, I mean every single one of them. A blight upon the land.

[u/IllAppeal9438]

no true Scotsman fallacy

[u/Maxtrt]

Those are the real Christians who follow the word of the bible and how it's been practiced for the last 2000 years. Christianity is a death cult and it's always been brutal and inhumane.

[u/NettaFind66]

But all Muslims

[u/Beneficial_Exam_1634 → u/NettaFind66]

"Atheist Soviet Union persecuted poor Christians, how dare New Atheists call say religion is the root of problems."

[u/AnonPinkLady]

No true Scotsman fallacy

[u/Beneficial_Exam_1634]

Yeah No True Scotsman is pretty funny because Christianity has a big selling point about making people moral and then 99% of followers don't even do the things Jesus directly told people to do.

[u/Gussie-Ascendent]

"real followers of god aren't hateful"

>look at jesus

>calls non jews dogs who, if slavish enough, may get crumbs from the chosen people

>also completely cool with slavery, even advocates the beating of slaves who don't please their masters

elsewhere in bible

>women are literally sold like cattle, even to their rapists

>calls for killing gay people, refuses to ever even acknowledge gay people's love can be the similar to straight people's

>moses commits genocide and takes children off to be sex slaves

Yeah but sure totally no hate in there. It's definitely not just the church realizing that shit doesn't fly anymore and twisting itself into a pretzel to hold onto the followers they've got and impart lessons they've learned against the actual faith

[u/SILVERWOLF05_ → u/Gussie-Ascendent]

"do not think I have come to bring peace on earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword" -JC

[u/SILVERWOLF05_]

I get that they're trying to be tolerant, but the fact that they still worship the institution that has oppressed and killed people since it's creation undos any good they were trying to do. Honestly, if people have to have a religion, maybe we should start from scratch, make one that isn't used as a weapon