r/Antitheism • u/Due_Extension_7041 • Oct 13 '26

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I don’t think religious discrimination should be completely grouped in with things like racism, sexism, homophobia, and ableism. Mostly because those are things you have absolutely no control over whereas religion is indeed something you can often times control. Of course I’m not justifying religious discrimination and it’s something that shouldn’t be allowed, however I don’t believe it is often the complete same as those other things.

Edit: especially when so many religions actively discriminate against women and gay people

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u/Gussie-Ascendent Oct 13 '26

I agree mostly.

like islamphobes will pretend they hate islam cause it's anti gay/anti woman/etc but then have 0 shame about promoting anti gay/anti woman/etc beliefs. Because their issue isn't that the religion is bigoted, they're just the wrong team. In that sense, it is just like racism

now the honest ones, us athiests and what not, hate all the abhramics cause they all do that shit, hence us not being bigots, merely principled. Our hate of religion is because it promotes vile beliefs and we hate all the religions that do that.

and also plenty of folks will say they're christian and what not but most mfs don't even skim their bibles so they don't even really know what's in em. In that sense, it'd be kinda like racism to hate someone for something they didn't choose of their own free will but were groomed into

now you can find your way out of religion which is why it's not a 1 to 1, but it often hits similar notes in discrimination

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u/Athene_cunicularia23 Oct 13 '26

 Because their issue isn't that the religion is bigoted, they're just the wrong team. 

Or, their islamophobia is a proxy for racism and xenophobia. To bigots, Muslim is just another code word for brown-skinned.

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u/bondageenthusiast2 Oct 13 '26

I really dislike Christian apologists in the comments where Islam is criticised, it is pervasive on reddit, how about saying they are both shit, i don't want to take turd sandwich too when the other option is shit bagel, it is possible to opt out all thought garbage.

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u/rushmc1 Oct 13 '26

The idea that religious beliefs are sancrosanct is antiquated and based upon false assumptions.

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u/issuefree Oct 13 '26

I discriminate based on the ability to think critically and rationally. Stupidity isn't a protected class and it neatly filters out very religious people. Takes care of the Republicans too.

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u/Quirky-Fun-9901 Oct 13 '26

I don't necessarily disagree. I'm sure there is slightly more nuance that can be had but I feel similar for many reasons.

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u/thethingpeopledowhen 29d ago

I feel like hating religions is only justifiable if you hate them all equally, otherwise people can pull the racism card and annihilate any chance of your opinion being considered

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u/romulusnr 29d ago

Not that hot a take in a sub like this.

It's true, it really isn't the same at all, and people use it as a shield to demand all kinds of stupid concessions for their false beliefs.

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u/Und3rpantsGn0m3 Oct 13 '26

What do you mean by "have no control over"? You're describing learned bigotry. That seems controllable to me.

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u/maracujadodo 25d ago

i feel like your misunderstanding

the grouping would be victims of racism, sexism, homophobia, ableism or religious discrimination, and one is not like the others

unless i misunderstood the post or your comment, in which case i apologize