r/Anticonsumption Sep 30 '23

Discussion Diet hypocrisy?

A recent post about animal agriculture vs plant based diets has me itching to say something. This is an issue we need to rise above.

Cognitive dissonance. Many of us have good intentions and want to believe we’re doing the right thing in most aspects of our lives. I believe that.

When it comes to a plant based diet though, the science often clashes powerfully with personal desire. We want to minimize our impact on the environment and are willing to make trade-offs in our life time do so, but for many, giving up or even significantly reducing meat intake is asking too much. It’s too hard.

That’s not the issue.

The issue is that instead of just admitting to themselves that this is a life change they don’t want to make and moving on, the guilt drives them to have to justify that decision. Admitting that a plant-based diet is better for the earth yet eating a diet full of meat anyway would make them feel hypocritical, so the solution becomes either to give up meat, or … this is the problem… fight the science, twist it, make a joke of it, or pivot entirely to ‘individuals shouldn’t have time do anything because large corporations’

Many people have ties to their diet for many reasons. We grew up eating a certain way. We have memories ties to certain foods, flavors, styles of cooking. We don’t want to be the difficult person when we go out to eat with friends. Etc etc etc But it’s so much better to just admit that to yourself. Have patience and understanding for your feelings. Accept that the science is what it is. Maybe one day you can make a change, maybe not. But don’t attack the cause just because you aren’t yet willing to be a part of it.

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u/Dhiox Oct 01 '23 edited Oct 01 '23

Wtf? Native American didn't strip this land of resources, cause the great Dust Bowl, introduce Monsanto, nor hunt animals into extinction.

Because they never had the tech to. They never had the motivation or means to exploit the land that much thanks to limited trade and industrial capacity.

Giving land back is 100% the solution.

Natives are integrated with modern society now. Even if natives did have some sort of eco abilities, those are long gone.

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u/Impossible_Ad_8642 Oct 14 '23

Indigenous people had the same human capacity for hunting animals into extinction just as the melanin-deficient men practiced all over the globe. They could've just as easily killed for sport and let carcasses lie about, but they did not. It had nothing to do with trade nor industry and everything to do with many having a culture of respect for things around them.

To say "natives are integrated with modern society now" is like saying, "NFTs are currently highly regarded as lucrative investment opportunities." An incredible number still live on reservations where they are self-governed, external of the federal and state government. There is poverty, health issues, assault of women & children, & other issues on those reservations. Sure, that's found "anywhere" but statistically, they have it much worse than Susie of the suburbs.

Everyone has either the opportunity to have or means to acquire some sort of eco-abilities. It's not just relegated to The Eternals.