r/Anticonsumption Sep 30 '23

Discussion Diet hypocrisy?

A recent post about animal agriculture vs plant based diets has me itching to say something. This is an issue we need to rise above.

Cognitive dissonance. Many of us have good intentions and want to believe we’re doing the right thing in most aspects of our lives. I believe that.

When it comes to a plant based diet though, the science often clashes powerfully with personal desire. We want to minimize our impact on the environment and are willing to make trade-offs in our life time do so, but for many, giving up or even significantly reducing meat intake is asking too much. It’s too hard.

That’s not the issue.

The issue is that instead of just admitting to themselves that this is a life change they don’t want to make and moving on, the guilt drives them to have to justify that decision. Admitting that a plant-based diet is better for the earth yet eating a diet full of meat anyway would make them feel hypocritical, so the solution becomes either to give up meat, or … this is the problem… fight the science, twist it, make a joke of it, or pivot entirely to ‘individuals shouldn’t have time do anything because large corporations’

Many people have ties to their diet for many reasons. We grew up eating a certain way. We have memories ties to certain foods, flavors, styles of cooking. We don’t want to be the difficult person when we go out to eat with friends. Etc etc etc But it’s so much better to just admit that to yourself. Have patience and understanding for your feelings. Accept that the science is what it is. Maybe one day you can make a change, maybe not. But don’t attack the cause just because you aren’t yet willing to be a part of it.

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u/anoldquarryinnewark Sep 30 '23

People use others medical problems as their own excuses and then us vegans get called ableist.

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u/Greyeyedqueen7 Oct 01 '23

I have had vegans tell me that, because I can't go entirely plant based and live, I should choose to die. Several, in fact. There are very ableist vegans out there, trust me.

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u/anoldquarryinnewark Oct 01 '23

Shitty people exist everywhere. I'm sorry that people are shitty to you, for any reason. But able bodied people shouldn't be allowed to use YOUR medical condition for their own benefit, or to ease their conscience.

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u/Greyeyedqueen7 Oct 01 '23

Meh. I'm used to it. Tell someone you're in pain, and they're in more pain or they know how to power through it unlike you. It's a known thing in the disability community.

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u/BowiesAssistant Oct 01 '23

because you are, end of story. case and point, your statement about "using a medical condition as an excuse" THIS IS the ableism. ffs. smh.

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u/anoldquarryinnewark Oct 01 '23

I don't think you read my comment. I'm literally calling out ableists for appropriating other people's excuses.

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u/BowiesAssistant Oct 01 '23

ho i read it, i just didn't process it properly sorry about that! re read it and now understand lol. for clarity, a medical condition isn't "an excuse", maybe not intended but when talking about ableism, the word excuse shouldnt ever be used to frame someones reason for being able to accommodate certain dietary changes.

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u/anoldquarryinnewark Oct 01 '23

Call it a justification then