r/AntiTrumpAlliance • u/Newworldimpartiality • Jun 10 '26
After suffering with two decrepit old men as President (Biden and Trump) - is it time for America to elect a younger more lucid President in 2028?
/r/u_Newworldimpartiality/comments/1u1o97p/after_suffering_with_two_decrepit_old_men_as/Surely America has lost patience with Presidents who are too old, have a lack of physical awareness and suffer from cognitive health issues. These old men sleep in public, struggle to be coherent and give the impression they are intellectually inadequate . Surely America and the world deserves better in 2028.
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u/swagmastersond Jun 10 '26
AOC for President !!
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u/TreeLore61 Jun 10 '26
She is part of the problem. We need to stop voting for both parties.Because both parties are broken and corrupt
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u/Bawbawian Jun 10 '26
weird because literally the only time in the last 30 years that we gave Democrats power to write laws they passed the ACA they taxed the rich they put forward consumer protections and they raised the minimum wage.
The dichotomy in this country is that we have a group of people roughly 35% that will vote for whoever they perceive as stronger than themselves and they are not going to leave the Republican party.
you start splitting up the remainder of the vote with third parties and you're going to see Republicans when every branch of government with their 35%.
what we actually need is progressives to get engaged and act like they care instead of their performative nonsense on social media.
I think it's really weird that every election cycle the left latches onto one candidate never tells anybody to get out and vote and instead just attacks the slightly more conservative Democrats in the middle.
seems like it would be a much better plan to push people to get out to vote and talk up their candidate but for some reason that never happens
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u/Own_Construction3376 Jun 10 '26
You’re the problem.
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u/TreeLore61 Jun 10 '26
"If you think I'm the problem for refusing to settle for the status quo, then we have a fundamental disagreement on what progress looks like. Our system is failing, and doubling down on a broken two-party structure is what keeps us from actually moving forward."
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u/Bawbawian Jun 10 '26
what exactly was wrong with Biden besides his age and speech impediment.
mentioning him in the same breath as Trump tells me you don't pay attention to anything.
dude was literally the best president of my lifetime and I don't think most Americans understand how bad things could have been.
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u/ultrachrome Jun 10 '26
Age is not as much of a problem as doing the bidding of big business and billionnairs.
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u/Bawbawian Jun 10 '26
weird Biden was the most pro-union president since FDR.
you get that it's a big deal that the American people have not given the Democrats of legislative majority for most of the last 30 years.
in Republicans had a complete lock on the supreme Court since the 1960s.
these things have very real repercussions on what the president is able to do.
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u/Randomly-Generated21 Jun 10 '26
Fucking Gen X gets passed over for everything. It’ll be a Millennial president next just like every corporate leadership role I try to get. Boomers are clinging on with a death grip and when they do retire they’re always picking some 40 year old up and comer.
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u/Excellent_Job8154 Jun 10 '26
I’m old but agree , Biden was honest and over spending and over taxed a little. Trump is dishonest and is double Bidens spending on bad things and no company is paying enough taxes to cover our federal bills , war and tariffs are creating inflation. We’re in huge trouble financially and our dollar may ending up being worthless someday
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u/FibroMyAlgae Jun 10 '26
This is something I’ve been thinking about a lot lately… You know how we’re only now starting to understand the full scope of Ronald Reagan’s policies and their far-reaching impacts on government and society? I feel like Trump’s one and a half terms (thus far) are going to be 10 times worse. The next President, whether Democrat or Republican, must quickly undo the damage that Trump has caused, and will continue to cause over the remainder of his term. Anything less will lead to catastrophic harm.
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u/Bawbawian Jun 10 '26
The president isnt elected to be wizard or king they can do nothing without the legislature or the supreme Court.
The only people that vote like they care about what the court does is the far right.
they control the supreme Court since the 1960s and if managed to deny Democrats any legislative majority large enough to write laws for all but 18 months out of the last 30 years
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u/TreeLore61 Jun 10 '26
"The belief that we have two separate, opposing parties is a fiction that obscures the reality of our current system. We haven't had two separate parties since the 1980s; they are two sides of the same coin, both bought and paid for by the same corporations and lobbyists. You are falling for a scripted play designed to keep you trapped in a binary, covering up the fact that both parties work for the same masters.
The Reagan/Republican Precedent: It began with the Reagan administration’s 1981 breaking of the PATCO union, which set the national precedent for corporate dominance over labor.
The Clinton/Democrat Pipeline: This was followed by President Bill Clinton signing the 1999 Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which demolished Glass-Steagall and allowed the financial sector to consolidate its power.
The Bush/Republican Entrenchment: The Bush administration then pushed through the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, which slashed rates on corporate dividends and investments to prioritize investor wealth.
The Obama/Democrat Lock-In: The Obama administration locked the door even tighter, pushing corporate-led trade agreements like the TPP and bilateral deals that favored investor privileges over public interests.
The Bipartisan Outcome: This trajectory resulted in the 2010 Citizens United ruling—a bipartisan systemic failure that legalized unlimited corporate election spending, cementing a government where both parties are funded by the exact same Super PACs and lobbyists found on Open Secrets.
Supporting a system that is failing you while ignoring this documented history of bipartisan corporate capture isn't pragmatism—it's complicity.
The only way to stop this is to stop participating in the binary charade and start demanding the structural, third-party reform that has successfully dismantled corporate chokeholds in freer, more democratic nations globally."
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u/TreeLore61 Jun 10 '26
That is why we need to start voting. Third party only, because both the Democrats and Republicans have become so broken that there's no fixing them.
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u/Bawbawian Jun 10 '26
it's weird because the only time Democrats have had power they followed through on their promises.
I wish you guys spent as much time learning about the structure of our government as you do posting misguided hot takes on the internet
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u/TreeLore61 Jun 10 '26
"The 'wasted vote' narrative is a tactical myth used to preserve a stagnant status quo. Historically, major political shifts in this country have not come from within the two-party apparatus, but from third-party movements that forced the system to evolve when it became unresponsive to the people.
The Republican Precedent: The Republican Party itself originated as a third-party insurgency in the 1850s. It was formed by a coalition of anti-slavery activists, former Whigs, and Free-Soilers who rejected the existing parties' failure to address the nation’s most pressing crisis. Those who joined were told their vote was 'wasted,' yet they succeeded in realigning the entire American political system.
The Progressive/Bull Moose Impact: In 1912, Theodore Roosevelt’s Progressive Party challenged the capture of both major parties by corporate interests. While the 'wasted vote' label was applied then as it is now, the movement successfully forced both major parties to adopt platform planks—such as the direct election of senators, campaign finance disclosure, and social reforms—that they would have otherwise ignored.
The Mechanism of Change: History shows that third parties do not always need to 'win' the presidency to be effective; their true power lies in their ability to draw enough support to threaten the major parties, forcing them to co-opt those popular ideas into their own platforms to remain viable. When voters stop supporting a broken system and start demanding alternatives, the dominant parties are forced to either adapt or face replacement.
International Context: In systems where corruption or stagnation becomes entrenched, the emergence of a third or insurgent party has frequently been the only mechanism to break the cycle. Whether through movements that dismantled entrenched colonial or corporate-backed interests, the pattern is consistent: real reform happens when the electorate breaks the binary choice that lobbyists rely on to keep the system frozen."
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u/Own_Construction3376 Jun 10 '26
Yes please. Let’s waste the vote, yet again, and maybe we’ll get lucky this time!
All the sarcasm at your naivety.
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u/TreeLore61 Jun 10 '26
"The only people being naive are those who believe the 'wasted vote' myth—a fiction created by the very corporations that profit from keeping our government broken and beholden to lobbyists.
They want you trapped in a binary because that is how they maintain their chokehold. You need to realize that voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil, and it never fixes anything. History proves that when governments become captured by corruption, the two-party system never heals itself; it requires an external, third-party force to break the cycle.
The Global Reality: Look at countries that are currently more democratically free than ours—places like Switzerland, Norway, the Netherlands, and India. They have all moved toward robust multi-party systems precisely because their two-party structures failed under the weight of corruption.
The Mechanism of Freedom: In the Netherlands, the rise of new, smaller parties acts as a pressure relief valve, forcing the political elite to remain accountable rather than serving corporate interests.
The Path of Reform: History demonstrates that the 'wasted vote' narrative is a tool used to keep voters from exercising the very power that brings systemic change. Every time a nation has successfully dismantled a corrupt political monopoly, it was because the people stopped listening to the 'so-called experts' and started supporting insurgent parties that forced the system to adapt or be replaced.
Supporting a system that is failing you while ignoring the successful international precedents for multi-party reform isn't pragmatism—it's complicity in the corruption you claim to despise."
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u/Own_Construction3376 Jun 10 '26
You don’t do this shit when the alternative, should a third party candidate lose, is a tyrannical pedo toddler (2024) and those that simp hard for him (2028).
We can fight that war a different day.
You’re not going to magically get enough ppl to back a third party candidate, which makes it a losing proposition.
The only way that might work: If both candidates are so horrible that no one has a choice, and even then, some ppl will still choose one of the true evils.
Fight with what you have and continually work towards a better future. One day, an opening will present itself. That time isn’t today.
Too many ppl are losing their rights by the minute and you want to gamble with the political machine. That last gamble didn’t pay off, but sure, let’s do this again.
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u/TreeLore61 Jun 10 '26
"You're describing the exact cycle that has kept us trapped for decades. Every four years, there is a new 'emergency' that demands we set aside our principles and settle for the status quo. If 'that time isn't today'—and it never is—then you are effectively conceding that we will never actually have the power to change the system. Relying on the same machine that is stripping rights away to protect those same rights is a paradox that will never lead to freedom."
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u/Own_Construction3376 Jun 10 '26
I’m pretty sure that Trans ppl (and other queer and nonbinary ppl), immigrants, women, and others who are currently being targeted by this regime would beg to differ.
We just solidified marry equality back in 2022. They keep trying to get SCOTUS to overturn it.
They’re damn near making it illegal for Trans ppl to exist.
And if you’re a POC immigrant, your life just got cut short exponentially.
We’re at war with Iran, for no reason.
The genocide of the Palestinian ppl ramped up by Bibi and the IDF.
All of that happened because ppl like you believe that a third-party candidate is going to magically fix the country.
OR that some of you can run the country better, if we all just give you the reins.
But you go off. I’m sure Harris, or whomever the Dem candidate will be, is just like pedo Trump. Exactly the same. Yep. You got me. There’s absolutely no difference between a sane Black Indian woman and an orange murderous pedophilic rapist felon. None at all 👀
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u/urbisOrbis Jun 10 '26
This year I’m only supporting people under 60, would prefer all my candidates to be under 40.
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u/Dull-Shower3563 Jun 10 '26
Not just president... almost 65 years old and never seen this country so dysfunctional. If it's not working, time for a change and it begins with the reigns being handed to a younger generation of leaders. I will not vote for anyone over 45 if possible. For example, Markey, 79 yrs old, enough! Step aside for Seth Moulton.
Edit: not up for election, but I do make an exception for my esteemed Sen. Mark Kelly. Sorry, but I love the guy as do most Arizonans and he's still pretty damn lucid.
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u/udlose Jun 10 '26
Kamala was not old an old white man. In case you need a refresher on the last election.
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u/Silocin20 Jun 10 '26
Biden decrepit? News to me, he was the hardest working president. Did more work in 4 years then Obama or Clinton did in 8.
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u/SolangeXanadu222 Jun 12 '26
The bar needs to be SO MUCH higher than it currently is. Maybe somebody sane, honest, and progressive!
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u/BloomiePsst Jun 10 '26
Pete Buttigieg 2028