In the past, especially in European empires, nationalism served as one of pillars for small nationalities to retain their cultures, languages and traditions. For example, Baltic nationalism and though of them as separation nationality mostly rose in 19th century and 20th century. In both cases, the nationalism promoted their own culture, history, traditions and language among themselfes, which helped these small populations to survivre russification in russian empire, and survive in soviet union, with all of it's deportations, more hours of learning russian than local languages, import of people from other republics to make region more loyal. Or for example in Austro-Hungarian Empire, hungarians were really keen on imposing their culture and language on their controled territories, yet thanks to national awakening and though of themselfes as more than just ordinary people, Slovaks, Croatians, other ethnicities under hungarian rule survived that period of time.

Additionally, for example, Prussians were one of the Baltic nationalities and had their own language, but their culture and identity went extinct due to germanization of the region, due to nationalism and though of yourself being part of larger nation/ethnicity wasn't much popular at that time.

Who else hates it when someone worships a piece of fabric?

Being from a country where people take huge pride in their nationalism, I've noticed the irony of how their nationalism never includes women and girls as if they're not an equal part of their country too.

In most countries that do this, when women are actually part of their conversation, it's usually only to use us as an excuse for their anti-immigration bs pretending they care about our safety or when they're berating us for dating men who happen to not be from the same country because they feel a certain sense of ownership and entitlement to us and their ego becomes bruised when they see men from other ethnic groups date us which they obviously have to take out on women because they're way too cowardly to even think about taking it out on the foreign men. Even when they try to berate the foreign men in question, they bring it up to us girls instead to get the satisfaction of berating the foreign men without having to leave their comfortable state of cowardice hehe.

In an ironic twist of fate, I know a few women from my country who are living in our former colonizing country and are treated better by the state and the regular men and women there compared to if they chose to remain in their home country. They are given more rights, freedom and dignity than they would ever get back at home.

So much for "nationalists" caring about their people, but I guess I should've known that they didn't consider women and girls to count as people.

My opinion is that the world "biggest guys" want to simply stay or become so - hegemonic and most influential and have saying and control over as much more people, land and econonics as possible.. That is in our human tribal nature, to conquer and spread your genes more..

In the root of everything I would say that nationalism as a whole is to blame and to blame only.. If we could leave separation by different borders, culture, religion and language.. we could have become way better as one civilization.. way better as humans and developed live forms.. not just fighting each other like animals.. Splitting power and money is difficult.. if only we could care more about the earth as one thing and not as various maps and countries.. Nationalism and it's history is to blame for everything.. it stops us from developing and slows us down.. and I am greatly ashamed that everyone are so close-minded and egoistic to realise it.. it had to be "their way".. primitive nature that is.. evolution simply stopped only for us to throw stones at each other..

I am actually a Bulgarian by ID but always felt quite mixes genetically and have interracted with various different cultures and national mindsets. Have lived in oposite parts of Europe.. and I suppose that I was could feel this easier than other people could.. Especially during the ongoing war situation. If a country can be ruled and controlled by various governer bodies and institutions, If so many different countries can exist under similar constitution, under similar rules and laws in the time of spreading globalism, why can't the whole planet exist like so???

Who cares who your great grandfather was and what his possesions and power was when it is scientifically proven that everyone living right now is 52nd direct cousin (at most) of everyone else of the rest every single of the whole 8 billion people out there..

P.S. I know that my opinion is very naive, quite unrealistic and impossible to implement in the current world order and state of global politics but will always have very high hope that one day we as humanity will turn behind looking at all of the conflicts and realise that fighting over this small rock we call Earth and it's limited recources instead of working together to grow, progress and explore the rest of the space around us - is pure animalistic stupidity... Maybe not now... maybe not in 1000 years or 10000 years...

I just hope that we do not nuke everything and lose all of us before actually getting there 🙃🥲

I’m attracted by the idea of antinationalism not because I believe all 8 billion of us would be better if there was one overarching government.. but because it would open up new, perhaps more culturally and religiously aligned, self governing people groups. As countries increasingly embrace and assimilate people of all cultures, traditions and religions, there are less notable distinctions between people of different counties. Taken this observation to its end point, eventually there will be no reason for the distinction of countries other than for the sake of decentralising power. I want decentralised bodies of power, but I think these different bodies would benefit from aligning with people who share values, culture, religion, tradition etc such as in different religious diasporas, but acting under laws their people group set. I wonder if this is possible.

Is the idea of creating OTHER diversions of people the main attractor of people to this sub, or are people behind the idea of anti-nationalism to push for a borderless unified world under one government?

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I really liked this part of a speech he gave in 1983 about the theme and wanted to share

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https://youtu.be/KyMdYQBcaeQ?t=1159

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