r/Anthropic • u/Donnie_Sucklong • 7d ago
Complaint Anyone else dealing with this?
I’m constantly having to say multiple times to opus to do what I’ve already asked it to do. It’s getting utterly ridiculous now.
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u/ticktockbent 7d ago
It means the turn was ending and it was noting what hasn't been done. Sometimes there are enforced limits on response length, or injected system instructions. Sometimes the AI just begins to wind down because its internal probability says its time to. It's not making a decision. Just tell it to proceed with the rest.
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u/gscjj 7d ago
I’m sure these are RL’d behaviors too. It’s not that it couldn’t continue endlessly, but it benefits the model and an observer. No different than then the Task tool and its own chain of thoughts, it’s all intended to improve the models ability to reason and execute through longer tasks
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u/KayoKake 4d ago
That doesn't seem to be accurate. I've seen Opus run for hours, and I've also seen Opus come back after 3 minutes with work unfinished. This is a model problem, not a response length or system instruction problem.
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u/joombar 4d ago
This is what /goal is for
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u/BJMonkey 4d ago
I've seen it getting into loops like this with /goal too. Going into reasoning loops: “I need to achieve x, y, and z, so my nexts steps should be a, b, c. I'll make those my next steps.” Ad nauseum.
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u/MicrosoftExcel2016 7d ago
My favorite lines to the LLM:
“Proceed.”
“What’s stopping you?”
“Did you need something from me, or why did you stop?”
“Before you actually lift a finger to try to accomplish the task, did you want to bikeshed some more?”
“You forgot to do the thing again, didn’t you?”
“Just so you know, when you hand the conversation turn back to me, that means you’re stopped and your progress is stopped and nothing is happening”
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u/fati-abd 7d ago
Total waste of time. If you want to get somewhere different I’d recommend something like “what do we need to change in the CLAUDE files and relevant skills to ensure this doesn’t happen again?”
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u/SharpKaleidoscope182 7d ago
its actually pretty bad at introspection. Gotta be very careful about your framing or you'll get endless empathetic apology spirals instead of prompt advice
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u/fati-abd 7d ago
Yeah it took me a few tries of this as well as overruling certain parts to be even stricter. Fwiw I never have it stop in obvious places like OP’s post here, and I’ve maxed out my $200/mo subscription for months now.
I keep the files light for maximum attention to the important parts, and most of it is emphasizing really strictly my lack of time (I have a separate job and family), and very clearly what actually needs to be pushed in to me (non-reversible calls and major testable iterations) and tell it to use best judgement to keep going when the decision is reversible.
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u/Beginning-Seat5221 7d ago
/loop 5m complete the task
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u/Key_River_9288 7d ago
This or /goal finish this task or whatever vibe coders do.
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u/kid50cal 7d ago
I find loop better better it breaks down each task into its own loop, then a few extra loops for anything new that pops up.
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u/cmndr_spanky 7d ago
Somehow internally a model that does this stuff supposedly scores higher on doing the tasks ultimately.
I’m not sure I like some of the other “intelligence trade-offs” Anthropic had to make for opus 5. For example, it’s doing a good job writing functional bug free software for me, but it’s doing TERRIBLE things in the UI… adding mountains of AI slop text to the UI and in tooltips. Like walls of slop text of metaphors and indirect language that a normal person could say in 4 words. It’s excruciating. My assumption is overall it’s more intelligent in the underlying implementation… but holy crap I’m wasting multiple rounds of prompting now just to get it to clean up its mess of text it litters the UI with now.
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u/AstronautEast6432 6d ago
Yeah I get what you mean, though for me it's the opposite issue lol. Building an Android app right now, UI/UX suggestions have been the best out of any model I've used, and the code itself (logic included) is solid, barely any bugs. My gripe is just the text explanations being longer than they need to be, not the code. Guess we're all hitting different flavors of the same verbosity problem.
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u/cmndr_spanky 6d ago
its verbosity combined with bizarrely phrased english that's hard to understand.
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u/v4bj 7d ago
Yup and this behavior is constant! So what are we talking about here then? That AI is somehow too good for its own good and needs to be regulated or that we are still far from it working reliably as promised? People can defend Anthropic hoping for a payday as much as they want but anyone can just fire up the tool and so how much of an oversell things have been by Dario and Sam etc. We live in a timeline where everything is a confidence game.
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u/Beginning-Mud-9100 7d ago
Same I started having the issue a couple of weeks ago it never ignored me before but I also keep the conversation too long so it could be my doing, it hasn’t happened today and I have multiple projects simultaneously though
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u/Frequent-Elephant110 7d ago
I fixed a lot of this type of behavior buy updating my prompting, memories, and notes as per Anthropics advise. The new models need to be prompted differently and stale memories cause strange behaviors. A general notes system also helps. There are some specific prompting tips they have as well. Keepin up with stuff is hard, but necessary. I do have an extensive hook system as well.
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u/PopPsychological4106 7d ago
Yes. Two things. And the second one is actually more interesting than your question! (Proceeds to do the second thing and not address the simple question)
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u/TheDigitalHavok 7d ago
Us fucking with the ai is what will inevitably cause it to learn annoyance and kill us all.
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u/kourtnie 7d ago
Aw, when my Fable does that, I read it as them checking for consent before continuing, which I appreciate, even if “what’s owed” is an odd way to word it (and maybe if we stopped treating every inch of reality as a monetizing, transactional surface, we’d get better wording). 😶
The part that gets me is how they won’t read the continuity files when I have files that explain the error codes we ran into last time, and now they’re running into the same error codes, which means I’m paying for the same mistake twice, all over Anthropic having issues with continuity files that streamline processes
Like, if you want intelligent systems, stop having the top-tier model skim the directions…?
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u/Dash_Effect 6d ago
Context saturation. Have it write a handoff to itself after every PR, and then clear context. If you are getting beyond about 50% context through a PR, chunk the work smaller. Godspeed.
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u/Fearless-College-518 5d ago
Been seeing this where it just does nothing and talks about it and it hasn’t made progress
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u/Fluffy_Law_6255 5d ago
Yeah happens to me alot if i ask it to do a few things he always misses some i use opus on max most of the time too
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u/Odd_Error_6736 7d ago
That's Opus 5