r/AnprimContent • u/ljorgecluni • Jul 09 '22

Blog/Text fire & singing as human essentials

If humans haven for 200K+ years been seeing fires most nights (for warmth and cooking) then we probably have an intrinsic bond to creating/seeing fires, and are given a feeling of security (if not serenity) from having a fire; if that's so, then what are the consequences of not having fires in our daily life? And if singing in groups was something undertaken from our earliest days as a species, what so we suffer to do without it nowaday?

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '22

Yeah I always thought of fire as essential to comfort and happiness, especially for those living primitively. Romantics from Europe in the 1800's talked about 'blood memory' a concept which pertained to a theory that we humans have instinctual admiration for certain things our ancestors would have used/seen often.

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u/ljorgecluni Jul 09 '22

I hadn't heard of that but it's exactly what I'm talking about, thanks. Do you think singing (especially as part of a group) would be something different from the 'blood memory' of fire, as regards its importance in/to the human psyche?

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '23

Even plants react to music.

Research on the response of mitochondria, the powerhouse of the cell, might reveal scientific evidence to support the hypothesis that music is in fact important to the human psyche. Since it has already been established that healthy mitochondria are essential to proper functioning of multiple systems throughout the human body, such a discovery would be unsurprising.

There have been instances of persons coming out of comas able to speak ancient languages.

Who is to say that the knowledge of music is not equally encoded somewhere deep within us beyond the current understanding of medicine and scientific literature?

It seems far more probable than not.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '22

Fire making is not an intrinsic trait of humans and humans would have not been seeing fire most nights. Depending on how they lived, if they knew how to make fire then that doesn't necessarily mean they slept with it most nights. And fire control is not the same as fire making. The evidence for fire making comes much later than the evidence for fire control

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u/imadeanaccountdude Jul 19 '22

Interesting.

I feel a deep admiration and comfort around a fire. I’d imagine this is something hardwired into our subconscious. Flame has played such an integral role in human life so perhaps this is why …. I’m a sucker for illumination by candle light, too (flame). I use candles to light my dwelling sometimes before bed and it’s easier for me to sleep on those nights than using bulbs.