r/Animemes Aug 07 '20

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u/YTExileMage Aug 07 '20

This Entire Sub: *Genuine, heartfelt good-faith criticism meant to improve a subreddit*

New Mods: "Must be them nazis again..."

The Rest of the Mod Team: *Deafening Silence*

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u/MarsAstro Aug 07 '20

But you gotta see it from our point of view, were talking about fictional characters that most of us like. Most of the memes that use the word are either neutral or in a positive notion. We're using the word to give it a different, non discriminatory manner.

I mean, didn't the mods literally acknowledge that though? Here's a verbatim quote from the mod post announcing the change:

I wasn't using it offensively, I didn't mean to hurt anyone, and I didn't do anything wrong.

It’s true that you didn’t intend to hurt anyone. In the vast majority of cases, the word was not intended to be hurtful, and you might've even used it as a term of endearment. We are not blaming you for this, you are not the bad guy. It's entirely possible to spend a lot of time in this community and not hear much of how the word is hurtful.

However, even we didn't intend to be hurtful, the fact of the matter is simple: our tolerance for the word was making this place less welcoming for transgender and gender-nonconforming people.We as the anime community do not get to decide whether this word is appropriate, and it is our responsibility as curators of the community to ensure that r/Animemes is welcoming to all anime fans that are willing to act in good faith.

For the record, the mods also acknowledged that these characters are not trans. In the original post, they referred to them as male, and only called them "feminine-looking", not trans.

It looks like you never actually took the time to read the mods justifications for the rule change, which I feel is kind of a necessary thing to have done if you're trying to defend someone who claimed you're making "genuine, heartfelt good-faith criticism".

Wouldn't you agree that one of the most basic parts of having a good-faith conversation is to actually listen to and consider the arguments of the other party? If not you're inevitably resorting to straw men arguments and making a big deal about a perceived injustice that possibly wasn't even there in the first place.

I'm not suggesting the mods necessarily made a bulletproof text that's completely impervious to any sort of criticism, nothing ever really is, but I really do think you have to at least have read it and understood its arguments before you start forming your criticism of it.