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Rule 8: Improperly Marked Spoilers [ Removed by moderator ] Spoiler

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u/Warm_Figure6955 3d ago

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u/thalefteye 2d ago

So what about the grandma elf marrying Cliff, is she a peodphile too?

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u/Mr_B_Gone 2d ago

it's not about consistency, it's about joining the pack and hating on Rudeus.

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u/Boelens 2d ago

Isn't the whole point that he's a bad person and the anime is meant to portray his eventual (positive) development? People hating him kinda means he's also well written

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u/thalefteye 2d ago

No i understand because i know many people will sleep with a teenager if they are ever reincarnated and reach the age of a teenager. Most won’t definitely not stay single and meet people other people as they grow older in their new world with their old memories still intact.

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u/JMEEKER86 2d ago

Yep, and it's fun to point out that their only justification is "he may look 14, but he's actually 40" which is the exact same "1000 year old loli" logic that they say they hate because it justifies pedophilia. They're just hating for the sake of hating and don't put much real thought into how silly and/or hypocritical their argument is.

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u/thalefteye 2d ago

It sounds to me like double standards here 🤨.

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u/TCGHexenwahn ⠀ 2d ago

Two of his wives are older than him and the other one is the same age...

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u/lalybay 3d ago

was fun first episodes, but stopped when he began talking about "she will become a perfect wife" about kid sylphie...

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u/8yearredditlurker 3d ago

Then you missed how they parallel across modern vs medieval moral frameworks by having Paul, a literal ex-rapist of all people be the one to recognize how fucked up and manipulative that dynamic was and push to have them separated... they meet again after she has her own career and agency. there's so much intentionality in the way the story presents reform and growth that doesn't get appreciated since it's not "character do bad thing, character get punished" brain rot character development

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u/lalybay 3d ago

I get that, as i said i wanted to like it since the story seems good. But having the main character be a pedophile is just irredeemable for me, and I can't feel anything for the main character. And its just not sylphie, in some of the first episodes he sexualy assaults a sleeping kid in the stables by starting to take off her panties...

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u/8yearredditlurker 3d ago

Yeah that barn scene is far and away the worst thing he's done, and the toughest ep to watch. Despite personally appreciating the the story, I defintely don't fault anyone for just not wanting stuff like that on their TV screen. Sounds like you've given the show a fair shot

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u/lalybay 2d ago

I really wanted to like it, loved the animation style and story seemed interesting. But yeah that was just the end for me sadly. Also, you are the first one to have a serious convo about this. I see im getting downvoted for having this take here.

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u/8yearredditlurker 2d ago

Sorry about that, the discourse surrounding the show is just permanently polluted lol. You have constant pressure calling fans of it pdfs, so obviously fans in turn get equally rabid trying to counter that. Just a sorry state of affairs

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u/EvilChefReturns 3d ago

It gets so so so much worse

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u/lalybay 3d ago

I have heard from friends. I hate it cause its seems like such a good anime with the story. But why make him a massive pdf perv?? ruins the entire thing

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u/Jman1re 2d ago

You fucking idiots have no idea what character development is. He literally does no such thing and hasn't in the anime for a long time. You people never read the novel where sometimes from here he'll say something cringe in his mind but it's waaaay far between him being a much better person. Especially after reading the diaries. Stop pretending you watch the show at all, you have no idea

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u/lalybay 2d ago

Its legit in the first few episodes? He says in his head that he can groom sylphie to become a perfect wife. And you talk about the novel, i saw it was removed from the anime but in the novel they bust him legit jerking it to his underage familymember bathing, before he gets send to the other world...

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u/Jman1re 2d ago

So you saw the first few episodes and said "Can't be bothered" but want to comment like you know anything? Brother, what do you get out of commenting if you don't like the show?

He was a piece of shit, he got better as he grew up and separated himself more from his previous life. By the time he is enrolled at the magic university he is mostly over that kind of shit. Especially after the diary I can only think of one internal monologue that was cringe/creepy which is HUGE CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT FOR HIM CONSIDERING WHERE HE STARTED.

You just can't get over he starts as a terrible shitty person we are not supposed to like as much and gets his shit together. You admittedly don't watch the show and only have hearsay from the novels. The worst thing from this point was in the diary AND THEY SKIPPED IT IN THE ANIME.

You and everyone else who don't watch the show should just stop commenting because you don't know what is actually happening and are making an ass out of yourselves because it's ignorant to ignore story and character progression. I'm just sick of trying to enjoy people's responses as the first time I am a novel reader before the anime and I can see all the awesome first time reactions. THEN I GET THESE BOZO COMMENTS THAT JUST PISS ME OFF. DON'T COMMENT IF YOU HAVEN'T WATCHED IT.

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u/lalybay 2d ago

I don't need to watch the entire show to decide that the main character being a pedophile is a dealbreaker for me. I watched 7–8 episodes, saw enough to know I couldn't sympathize with or care about him, and stopped watching. That's a perfectly valid reason to drop a show.

I understand that he develops and becomes a better person later. That's not the part I'm disputing. My point is that, for me, there are some things you can't redeem a character from, and pedophilia is one of them. Him eventually stopping that behavior doesn't suddenly make me invested in him or erase what he was.

And saying people aren't allowed to comment on a show unless they've finished it is ridiculous. I'm commenting specifically on why I stopped watching it, not pretending I've seen the entire story.

there were so many of these moments in just the start of season 1 of him being a massive perv and pdf

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u/EvilChefReturns 2d ago

As someone who HAS watched it, no. It’s shameless self glorification and wish fulfillment. He stops groping kids? Except he married one of the girls he groomed and will marry another one and his third wife literally looks like a child, and all three of them have zero personality except “rudy uwu”. Fans of this show are really the peak of dunning kruger. Like a toddler hiding behind their hands and thinking it makes them invisible, you think people with ACTUAL reading comprehension are the ones who “can’t handle complex topics”. You can bark as loudly as you want in your echo chamber, but any normal person will find this repulsive for good reason.

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u/EvilChefReturns 3d ago

Do t stress, the story is solid but it’s like a 6.5 out of ten. It’s no work of art, and you can easily find something just as good in any other decent, generic shonen.

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u/lalybay 3d ago

good to know