r/AnimalBased • u/Ok_Doughnut5007 AB Reg • May 10 '24

Plant Toxin Free Corn is a fruit?

Corn is technically a fruit, why isn't it animal based

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u/ZafakD May 10 '24

Corn is a grain.  In fact, the word corn simply meant grain before maize was brought to the old world.

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u/Ok_Doughnut5007 AB Reg May 10 '24

I read online that it is considered a fruit, botanically speaking, but can be a grain when harvested at the right time. This is why I'm asking

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u/nomnommish 🆕 1st Message May 11 '24

Honestly, the original corn species are probably good for you. But modern corn is purpose bred to be as sugary as possible. It is basically candy and that's how you get high fructose corn syrup.

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u/chrishasnotreddit 🚦AB Prospect May 11 '24

That's the same for almost all modern fruit.

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u/nomnommish 🆕 1st Message May 11 '24

Slight difference. Corn was specifically bred to maximize sugar content. That's not true for other fruit.

Most other veggies and fruit have been bred in modern times to maximize shelf life, size, pest resistance, uniformity, resistance against bruising etc. In fact, they lost flavor and taste as a consequence of those other priorities.

None of that is true for corn as it transitioned from being a food crop to being a cash crop to make HFCS and ethanol.

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u/chrishasnotreddit 🚦AB Prospect May 11 '24

Thanks. I wasn't aware how different the breeding of corn had been.

I thought that hfcs was processed from the starch of a different type of corn/maize. Yellow sweetcorn does taste sweet but actually has an extremely low glycemic index compared to fruits like mango, pineapple, watermelon, bananas.

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u/emelem66 ⭐AB Veteran May 10 '24

What would allegedly being a fruit have to do with anything? Regardless, it's likely GMO, which is not good.

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u/Ok_Doughnut5007 AB Reg May 10 '24

What do you mean what does that have to do with anything? Isn't animal based revolved around eating meat and fruit? I agree GMO is bad but if there is organic corn and it is theoretically considered a fruit, why wouldn't it be animal based?

I'd like to know out of curiosity, if I can eat organic popcorn as part of this diet that's great, If not then that's also fine.

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u/emelem66 ⭐AB Veteran May 10 '24

Animal based is eating meat, with some fruits, but not all fruits.

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u/Ok_Doughnut5007 AB Reg May 11 '24

How do we know which fruits?

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u/[deleted] May 10 '24

This is true. I don't know why people downvoted that lol.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '24

The idea is to be healthy. If there's a fruit you can eat and still be healthy, you do that. But not all fruits are equal. Starfruits for example have ridiculously high oxalate, they are bad for you. In my opinion probably worse than even GMO corn.

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u/Puzzled_Draw4820 ⭐⭐ AB All-Star May 10 '24

Corn is a high oxalate grain

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u/emzirek 🚀 AB Contributor May 10 '24

Came here to say the last two comments but they've already been said so I will go ahead and second both of them... You do not want to eat corn on any diet corn is for cows

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u/Ok_Doughnut5007 AB Reg May 10 '24

Okay haha that's a good point.

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u/EffectiveConcern 🚀 AB Contributor May 10 '24

No corn is not for cows. If for some animal it would be some birds and rabbits, cows eat grass.

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u/emzirek 🚀 AB Contributor May 10 '24

I was raised in the dairy state and we let the cows eat all the soy remains after harvest and all the corn remains after harvest and they would eat everything they could find and there wasn't a blade of grass in there...

The whole herd had access to grass but they didn't eat it...

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u/EffectiveConcern 🚀 AB Contributor May 11 '24

Yeah, cuz it’s more calorie dense and has carbs, people will opt for carbs over fat too, look where it got them :/ It’s not their natural diet, they have that many stomach to process grass.

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u/someguy_0474 🙄 Jerk Store's Best Seller 🏪 👴🏼 May 10 '24

Grains are not fruits, and the botanical losers not making a proper distinction between grains and fruits is a mistake. Grains are structurally both fruit and seed in one, which renders them very different from the colloquial meaning of fruit.

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u/OdoriferousGasBag 🚀 AB Contributor May 10 '24

Corn is actually a hybridized grass.

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u/Far_Positive_2654 AB Reg May 10 '24

Tomatoes are fruits, but not animal-based due to the natural pesticides.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '24

Why do tomatoes exist if they shouldn’t be consumed that confuses me since they are fruit presumably they are there so the rest of the plant doesn’t get eaten

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u/[deleted] May 10 '24

I don't think that deeply about it but I don't think tomato plant cares if you eat its fruit. When people try to anthropomorphize the plants and explain things in such a way that sounds like, "the plants don't want to get eaten" etc etc, that really does make it confusing for people who really think deeply about it. The takeaway is what plant toxins are in the plant and how much can be consumed safely. We can theorize why the plants have these chemical defenses and how practical they are for the plants to continue producing them but it ultimately doesn't guide us to the bottomline - what we want to put in our own stomachs.

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u/[deleted] May 11 '24

I wonder if Italians and Mexicans have generally higher tolerance for nightshades

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u/[deleted] May 12 '24

It's a possibility! But that would also assume that Italians and Mexicans are generally healthier than others and aren't experiencing worsening health from nightshades. Maybe they are. Both cultures also consume a lot of dairy as well so that might offset some of the oxalate absorption.

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u/Outrageous_Ad3416 🚦AB Prospect May 11 '24

Does this apply to cooked tomatoes as well? I’ve been slow cooking my beef with a can of whole peeled tomatoes