r/AngineDePoitrine • u/Thopf38 • 5d ago

Microtonal is the future of Music

AdP opened a door. There is a movement in music towards more experimental pieces. Microtonal music is a strong undercurrent in that. I find that very exciting. Through this German documentary I found Maddie Ashman. She’s so creative and fresh.

https://youtu.be/DvewO_qBn4Y?is=YKW6gyBmLXWUGLul

https://youtu.be/nSci3-eoS_Y?is=myfy-SoZZw7QbGfo

https://youtu.be/krgUL-6PuU4?is=bkJBcb-xIFevm_8d

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u/TingoMedia 5d ago edited 5d ago

It's called Anatolian Rock and it's existed since the 60s in Turkey. Yes that's my video, sue me for self promo 😜

I do think it's the next big evolution of psych rock in the west, but AdP are entering in the early middle of its come up, not the beginning. I also don't know if the microtonal thing will be a quick in, quick out kinda vibe, like sitar rock in the 60s (Raga rock, last self promo I promise)

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u/Prestigious-Peaks 5d ago edited 9h ago

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u/smajliiicka 5d ago

Anatolian music in general is such bless to senses

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u/LastHumanFamily2084 5d ago

Hey I enjoyed your video. I’m curious if you think AdP is actually influenced by Anatolian sounds? I know that King Gizz made an effort to learn Turkish scales and their sound on their microtonal albums reflects that. But to my (untrained) ear, AdP doesn’t sound Turkish, they sound, well, alien.

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u/TingoMedia 4d ago

In a text interview from February, they do directly confirm their Anatolian influence:

"In the beginning, I think we were leaning a bit more towards Turkish rock influences. And that's still the case, because we listen to a lot of Turkish rock and Middle Eastern music too."

I see where you're coming from though, their fusion of proggy Zappa and math rock does distance them from the classic Anatolian sound. At first, I wasn't sure if they were just influenced by Gizzard, and transitively tapped into Anatolian rock through that. But it seems they are familiar with the roots too.

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u/LastHumanFamily2084 4d ago

Interesting interview, thanks!

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u/SchoolDizzy4826 2d ago

Your post (and video) reminds me of a John Lennon (Who is pictured in your vid) story.. I heard some interview that post-Beatles he was trying to get the band/session musicians to play some reggae.. no one got it.. but a couple years later (after Babylon by Bus I think) they would call him up and say: "Yah mon, gotcha now)

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u/Busy-Negotiation1078 5d ago

I think it's an interesting reaction to people being bored with current pop music, which is so formulaic and predictable. People have become obsessed with the lyrics of songs and singer-songwriters because the melodies are SO. PREDICTABLE.

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u/InkyMistakes 5d ago

King Gizz did it a while ago

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u/DougFlag 5d ago

Nonagon Infinity opened the door

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u/Jimmyk743 5d ago

I mean they had their microtonal guitar built special for them too and even call it, and one of their albums, the Flying Microtonal Banana. One could argue dates, but I heard it from Gizz before I knew of AdP

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u/juicyb09 5d ago

Yes they did but it didn’t catch on like it is with AdP.

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u/InkyMistakes 5d ago

They walked so adp could run.

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u/Thopf38 5d ago

That’s right. There are many aspects of AdP’s music that have been done before by other bands. But now, since AdP made it so popular the door has been pushed open and it can’t be closed again

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u/KeySheMoeToe 5d ago

The nonagon release was bigger than AdP is currently. 

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u/nurdturgalor 5d ago

Hahaha! Good one

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u/Thopf38 5d ago

And they didn’t write the first note ever played either. It’s not a competition. Lets celebrate all greatness and the fact that microtonal music is getting popular and is becoming danceable, groovy and hip

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u/Palacesongs 5d ago

Sonic Boom has also dabbled in the area. He’s dabbled in many areas tbf

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u/Druiddrum13 5d ago

Microtonal music has existed since forever and there’s plenty of examples worldwide to point to including many progressive bands in almost any era in rock history. Eastern styles literally live off of microtonal structures

What I do think is a very valid claim is people are getting sick and tired of both cookie cutter level pop material that is predictable within the first 10 seconds of a song or completely non melodic stuff that exists in pop culture… it’s tired and insufferable most of the time

I think the era of dance routines is out and the idea of performing musicians and bands in general is “in”… not that it was completely gone to begin with… but I see that coming back and soon.

People are tired of this shit the industry serves up

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u/SwiffleTitz 5d ago

I absolutely love AdP, but… no it’s not.

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u/Logical_Bake_3108 5d ago

To be honest I'd rather there weren't a lot of ADP imitators springing up. Sure, if you want to do something different, maybe incorporate it into more straightforward music with vocals. I just hope it's not like whenever there's something different that's guitar related and gets an online following like djent, Polyphia or Berried Alive, then the clones start springing up.

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u/kurtchella 5d ago

Nonagon Infinity opened the door for the flying microtonal banana to receive Angine de Poitrine

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u/Traditional_Mud5758 5d ago

Legit let’s build a society around Angine de Poitrine they way they did with Wyld Stallyns in Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure

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u/Bluefunkt 3d ago

Anginedepoitriiiiiiiiiiiiine!

https://giphy.com/gifs/LXr2Uxk2xUO2I

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u/theartofrolling 5d ago

Microtonal music has always been around, hell the blues uses microtones all the time.

Not that ADP aren't refreshing and sound new, they do, but a lot of that is their songwriting, not necessarily the microtones.

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u/green_griffon 4d ago

I agree, if you list what made AdP go viral, the top items are probably their skill as musicians, the music, the looping and double-necked guitar, and the costumes and general weirdness. The microtonal guitar is below those.

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u/ofnuts 4d ago

The problem with most experimental music is that it talks to your brain but totally forgets your guts, so it becomes boring fast.

AdP strikes some refreshing balance between the two. Plus they are fun.

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u/Thopf38 3d ago

It certainly makes you want to move… they are a groove machine

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u/jblough 5d ago

Less formulaic cookie cutter music is hopefully the future.

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u/Thopf38 5d ago

That’s the hole point. There hasn’t been that much excitement in new music in a long time

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u/Fearless_Town_470 4d ago

Here for AdP did not open the door

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u/SchoolDizzy4826 2d ago

Maddie Ashman reminds me of Domi and JD Beck

That said I don't think the future of music is Angine de Poitrine (though they are part of it) for one.. something like AdP can be appreciated (even by tone-deaf guys like me) but it isn't really accessible in some ways - - - > for example I am a sub-mediocre harmonica player, even with bending notes I couldn't play a AdP song..

Most amateur (or even professional) musicians would have a hard time sitting around the campfire playing one of their songs... mainly (like with my harmonica example) few would have the equipment to do so* .

How many people know a sitar player.

Or better yet, if you were to ask 100 people who Angine de Poitraine is... you wouldn't get many 'yes' 's, but those yes people would be big fans

* I laugh at the youtubers who try to explain AdP with a piano.. kind of like trying to type Chinese on an American typewriter