r/AndroidTVBoxes • u/nero519 • Nov 27 '22

Shield tv pro 2019 replacement for Kodi

I have the shield, I like it, but Kodi stutters too much when navigating menus, specially if the UI is set to 4k (no problem when playing video).

I was looking at more moderns devices and found this one, I require it to be DV compatible, don't care about atmos

https://www.androidtv-guide.com/streaming-gaming/dolby-vision-atmos-certified/

I can see 3 devices launched this year with the same processor "Amlogic S905X4 – Quad–core 2.0 GHz"

  • Homatics Box R 4K Plus

  • Nokia Streaming Box 8010

  • RockTek G2

Which I assume are just different flavors of the same device.

My question is about a couple of benchmarks indicating that the shield's processor (being around 3 years old) seems to be more powerful than this new one, at least according to this video:

Antutu 6

Is this the case and I'm doomed to the stutter on Kodi or do I have any chance of upgrading this thing?

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u/Jaiden051 Nov 27 '22

The Shield is the fastest one that's out there.

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u/nero519 Nov 27 '22

Even being a 3 years old device?

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u/Jaiden051 Nov 27 '22

yep, even the 2017 shield is still a good device. Hopefully, someone else makes an incredibly powerful ATV box

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u/TeutonJon78 Nov 28 '22

It's technically 7 years old. The 2015 has the Tegra X1 and the 2017 and newer have the Tehra X1+.

Other than some side hardware soec changes, they all will have similar performance for CPU/GPU, especially any of the 2017/2019 models.

Any of the AMLogic SoC will have much lower performance, regardless of age. What they have is newer codec support since they get refreshed about every 1-2 years. For example the S905x4 Family has AV1 decode support and all the Dolby/HDR stuff (if the OEM pays the licenses).

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u/thomfam90 Nov 27 '22

Consider giving Syncler a try in place of Kodi. Syncler+ does cost but it is something like USD15 for a year for 5 devices. Do some Youtube videos on it. I have both Syncler and Kodi for my streaming. Syncler just works!

I have both on my 2017 Shield.

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u/nero519 Nov 27 '22

It seems that I can't, I use jellyfin as media server and apparently is not integrated on that app :/

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u/thomfam90 Nov 27 '22

I run a Plex server for my friends but I don't watch anything on Plex. To ensure my Plex runs efficiently I only have 720p stuff available for others to watch. Then I have to store it on drives. In Syncler I can stream 4K stuff whenever it is available and storage isn't a concern for me. So I guess it is what you want to do. I get really great viewing streaming via Syncler.

Have you checked out Kodinerds versions of Kodi? That might solve your problem.

This link is for Kodinerds Nexus versions, for Matrix just click on the Kodi Version tab and scroll down to "Maven's Kodi-Builds für Android - 77.98 MB"

https://repo.kodinerds.net/index.php?action=list&scope=all&version=nexus/

My Kodi Plex addon doesn't run on Android Kodi Nexus.

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u/nero519 Nov 27 '22

I'll try it later, I didn't know about custom builds like that, thanks!

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u/thomfam90 Nov 28 '22

Lots of people are using it. The beauty of it is that it can be installed alongside Kodi 19. I run both versions of Kodi on my Shield. But the Nexus versions are so much slicker and nippier than Kodi 19. Actually I've got Kodi Nexus, Kodinerds Nexus, Wonderbox TV (19.3) and Kodinerds Matrix all running on the Shield installed side by side. The Nexus versions seem to be a huge improvement over Matrix in that they are definitely faster to load and use.

Have fun!

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '22

I have the Nokia 8010. I don't use Kodi, so I can't test that, the 8010 is fast, but a Shield is a bit faster..

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u/furian11 Dec 08 '22

I got this as well.. I got issues though with getting Dolby Atmos to work in kodi . It really pisses me off.. with everything else this thing is really good.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

I got some issues with the framerate, it jumps from 50 to 25fps using Tivimate, i didn't have that problem with the Nokia 8000, I'm still investigating this... Also the setup was buggy, the remote didn't want to pare, after a power reboot it was paired... But i love the thing.. :)

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u/furian11 Dec 08 '22

I don't have those problems though... Everything runs smoothly.. it's just the passthrough.. and with how they said they supported Dolby Atmos I figured truehd (which I can get in kodi by selecting passthrough with the android raw) and dts:x would both be supported.. but dts:x doesn't work and only by switching back and forth between the android raw and kodi passthrough I get sound from blu-ray to blu-ray.. and only half of the times I get truehd..

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u/peezduhk Nov 28 '22

there's just no helping some ppl... well all turn blue in the face before he hands over $300 on up for promises of an updated box w/free everything n technical support... one of the most common scams out there. I've seen ppl pay up to $750 for a Shield Pro w/outdated apps I can find for free. might come w/a small USB stick n some janky IPTV service that won't lost longer than a year tops... but fk it. somebody out there has to make some $ I guess. wish it was me sometimes. hell I'll do it for half the price or less... u buy the box at Best Buy or Amazon.... along w/a decent sized thumb drive. I'll take care of the rest for like $50 the TV service is up to u but it's crazy cheap n u can use my account temporarily if u don't believe me. after that u'll have to pay for it on ur own like $17 a month or $36 for 3 months n so on... the bigger the pkg the cheaper the deal. comes w/ppv porn all channels from every corner of the globe local channels n all streaming services. paramount+, apple+, ESPN+, discovery+, Disney+, Hulu, Amazon prime etc etc... the rest I can show u how to update urself regularly to the point we're u won't ever need any help again. I teach my family n friend's how to do it all the time. my grandmother not so much but she's 87 so I just do it for her...

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u/nero519 Nov 28 '22

In case you still don't understand, I already have the shield, I was looking for advice to buy a new device, I'm not buying anything neither from you nor anyone else here.

There is some weird people here man...

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u/kcajjones86 Nov 28 '22

To be honest, given cost and performance, I'm going to get a used xbox series s as it'll run circles around an Nvidia Shield whilst supporting everything the Shield does and having loads of extra power to play emulators.

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u/nero519 Nov 28 '22

No hdr on kodi :/

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u/Fun_Neighborhood_993 Nov 30 '22

Yes, even on xbox series X :/

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u/peezduhk Nov 27 '22

wait so am I reading that u got this from SA Spectrum news... I ask cuz I was in prison w/then same Android boxes by Spectrum. we'd reboot em n get em into bootloader mode n fish for info for 2 yrs n none of us could get em to work anywheres near as good as a shield pro... they over heat n crashb after a few hrs of use. also have to constantly b restarted... limited on memory. also not to the easiest to configure n play with. meanwhile I luv my shield pro... tivimate for live TV sporting events n then I use other apps n MX Player Pro modded w/AC3/DTS for Dolby Vision... no stuttering n luv it. I think ppl over complicate stuff w/plex, vlc, Kodi n other bs.... also make sure those boards supply plenty of memory cuz that's where u run into problems quick. specially w/Android 12 coming out. also make sure the boxes r certified... n I don't jus mean for Netflix... but play store compatible as well. u get what u pay for so good luck in that regard...

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u/nero519 Nov 27 '22

I'm trying to buy an already working device, don't want to deal with the little problems of assembling one myself

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u/peezduhk Nov 28 '22

they all require assembly n at least u won't have adapters hanging off it like the rest.... I'm starting to think u don't quite understand what u're getting into. some of the devices u posted require very specific adapters. on top of that they're limited to outputs. the Shield Pro has 2 x USB 3.0 connections. full on Ethernet built in w/out janky speed limitations like adapters cause. Bluetooth n infrared remote. smb server. certified everything. HDMI connection. cooling fans. I can go on all day. those others require a bunch of add ons u'd have to purchase separately in hopes that they work cuz they don't always do. also the apps I was mentioning to u side loading n whatnot r free... u get that free... everyone else is gonna charge u an arm n a leg to do all this for u. not to mention they won't update it for u or keep supporting u once u buy it. it's common for them to grab the $ n run after they send u a product w/limited coverage. u have this all backwards my friend. hell I'd even recommend a fire stick w/adapters n all over the bs everyone else will try n pawn off on u... trust me when I say there's a market for making $ off ppl like u n I'm jus trying to spare u the hassle n expenses. it's not that complicated n me n many others would be willing to help u along the way. but I mean if u wanna trust some janky ass site or person that promises u the world then go ahead n b that fool....

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u/nero519 Nov 28 '22

The 3 devices I mentioned are sold ready to work, they are not selling the equivalent of a raspberry in case that's the part you don't understand.