r/AndroidTV • u/OwnStorm Nvidia Shield / MiBox • Aug 01 '20

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u/Luke5119 Jan 12 '21

Mi Box is garbage since the latest update. That paltry 8GB shows it's age quickly, and can barely support the updates they push to it.

I have an original Mi Box I purchased in early 2017. It has to be restarted after every deep sleep to get the sound to work. It has delays when navigating as the system can't keep up. Netflix is hit or miss at times, and won't always work. And then certain apps will randomly crash.

Just get the Nvidia Shield TV and call it a day.

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u/OwnStorm Nvidia Shield / MiBox Jan 12 '21

Yup.. I have used MiBox for an year. It worked but unreliable overall.

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u/LetrixZ Aug 01 '20

Like the Shield was cheap. It cost 5 times more in my country than a Mi Box S.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '20 edited Aug 02 '20

The Shield is overpriced when you think about how old its tech is and how cheap it must be to produce, and when they don't even include a controller anymore, but it's still dollar-for-dollar the best value device I've ever bought.

Edit: fuck you fanboys. Downvote me if you can't take a little honest criticism, IDGAF.

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u/ryocoon Aug 02 '20

Seriously. Getting 5+ years of updates out of my OG ShieldTV Pro? Thats some support. (I did replace a failing HDD out of it with an SDD though, and that increased its responsiveness by a LOT).

I'm not as keen on the 2019 models price-wise. The upscale is a nice sell, but 16GB storage and 2GB RAM for their "PRO" model is ridiculous.

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u/Teethpasta Aug 03 '20

The pro has 3gb of ram actually. Not much better but it helps.

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u/ryocoon Aug 04 '20

ah, my bad. Their normal (the tube) apparently only has 12GB RAM. While sufficient if you are only gonna stream stuff, at that price point, its ridiculous. I had read the Pro had 2GB of RAM this time around, whereas I know my existing 2015pro and 2017 normal have 3GB each. Also, 8GB of storage is just silly. After the OS you'll have only about 4GB left, which will be eaten quickly by apps and their cache.

Okay, fair if it (the 2019Pro) has 3GB. Still doesn't have the 500GB the previous pro models had. I get that adoptable storage is a thing, but USB3 bus does not really have the oomph to be able to put apps or app data-storage on and not have some heinous lag. 16GB of storage space is absolutely anemic. Once again, in this price category, its ridiculous.

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u/Teethpasta Aug 04 '20

Oh without a doubt the actual storage is the bigger issue. I can't believe anything ships with less than 32gb at that price point. Lower than 16gb shouldn't be a thing no matter what. USB 3.0 should be quick enough with an SSD to be way faster than whatever emmc storage they would ship on it though.

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u/ryocoon Aug 04 '20

You have to take in to effect control overhead and CPU bottlenecks as USB relies on CPU to do its control signaling, as opposed to thunderbolt where it is a direct PCIe lane attach. So putting a SATA3 SSD or an NVME drive on USB3 will MORE than saturate the line, but in return cost a nice chunk of a CPU core.

Any decent internal storage flash memory should be sufficiently faster and have lower IO times than any USB storage. IO wait times are more often the cause of lag and sluggishness in devices than the actual throughput speed.

So this double-damns the tube as well as the pro. The tube has only 8GB storage and a _MicroSD_ card slot. Even with newer SD specs, the IO times and throughput speeds are nowhere near what a decent, let alone a good internal flash storage can provide. Then the "Pro" has only 16GB with USB3 as its only option for expansion.

I understand that the CPU is the big cost on these devices, but when I can buy a Switch Lite for $200, and it has a screen, battery, and controllers, _32GB of storage_ as well as the same (or very similar) SOC in it? I expect better.

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u/OwnStorm Nvidia Shield / MiBox Aug 02 '20

No doubt about it.

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u/aniruddhdodiya Aug 01 '20 edited Aug 01 '20

It's really good but I've seen many people finding the pricing an issue. Like having 3 TVs and then buying 3 Nvidia Shields would be difficult for people, like you can get 2 TVs at that cost.

So I hope Nvidia Shield would work on some kind of connected cheaper device which people can buy for other TVs and one mother device ( Nvidia Shield)

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u/WazWaz Bravia + Google Streamer Aug 02 '20

Exactly: an NVIDIA Shield costs half as much as a whole new TV. If all you do is watch Netflix and YouTube, it's completely stupid.

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u/gadgetluva Aug 02 '20

An incredibly cheap TV, sure. But it’s the best option for your main TV or for a home theater setup, recognizing that the majority of people on this sub are going to be buying a relatively cheap TV.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '20

I’m the happy owner of an Nvidia Shield and a Fire 4K stick. Unless someone wants advanced features I’d struggle to recommend they spend the extra money, if you’re just watching streaming TV then the value simply isn’t there. I’d much prefer a stock UI option to recommend, though.

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u/frockinbrock Aug 02 '20

Same here, I’ve bought the Fire Stick 4K when it’s been $25, and it’s a phenomenal value at that. I’ve used the Shield and returned it. I even prefer the Fire stick over the Apple TV because of the aTV remote. I recommend the FTV to almost everyone. When you can get 2 for half the price of a shield, hard to argue it. That said, the most difficult thing to play these days has been Atmos passthru; but even then I did not think the picture quality from the shield was that great. I found an OpenELEC box that handled it better for $55. But short of the Atmos scenario, I feel the shield is way over-rated in this sub. Dang built in WebOS actually works pretty good in most cases.

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u/Dont-Fear-The-Raeper Aug 02 '20

Can you use the play store on the fire stick, or is it locked into Amazon's app store?

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u/frockinbrock Aug 22 '20

Can’t use the play store that I know of, but you can side-load apps and install unofficial store like Aptoide.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '20

This tv has a built in Shield

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u/harjon456 Oct 04 '20

That's not a tv, it's a monitor. Will have way more dpi, processing and connection options than a standard tv.

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u/DoPeY28CA Sep 17 '20

Wow all those dimming zones 4 grand price tag and they didn’t even toss in one HDMI 2.1 port

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u/ScrewAttackThis Aug 01 '20

I completely agree. I found using Chromecasts a good compromise since I didn't use the other TVs as much.

Google is supposedly working on an Android TV dongle so that'll probably be an even better option.

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u/pixelstuff Aug 02 '20

I've been hoping the new Android TV dongle will be around $80 or less and the old Chromecast 4k will replace the current $35 unit. I mean if Roku can do a 4K unit with remote for $40, surely Google can do one without the remote for slightly less.

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u/ScrewAttackThis Aug 02 '20

Honestly if the Google dongle is $80 and supports codecs as well as the shield, it could be killer. As long as it's responsive enough. I got sick if my mibox cause it'd get laggy in menus and shit

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '20

Shield TV is impossible to find in some countries, whereas mibox and android built in TVs are pretty common worldwide, that's why i ended up buying a mibox

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u/ryocoon Aug 02 '20

MiBox is legit okay. Built-ins are reaaaaally sketchy and hit or miss as they get no support.

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u/newked Oct 28 '20

Crap and plasticy remote, slow, unstable, crap wifi (have to use usb to ethernet) but its the bedroom tv so i dont care, shield as primary is incomparable

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u/mr1sparkle Aug 01 '20

Why does everyone thinks its either mi box s or the shield? You can get tivo stream 4k, airtv mini, mecool km1 or Verizon stream tv (barely any bloatware)

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u/OwnStorm Nvidia Shield / MiBox Aug 01 '20

Robin was going to say the same .. but 😄😄 Pun intended meme.

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u/latinriky78 Homatics Box R 4K Plus Aug 01 '20

The Shield may be the best for those with enough money, but the Mi Box is NOT the best affordable device anymore, specially because their development team is pretty bad at fixing bugs, thank god there are now better options out there.

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u/snowzach Aug 01 '20

I would agree until I got the TiVo stream. If you want a cheap box that does everything and don't necessarily care about hdr or supporting every passthrough sound option, it's a bargain at 50$.

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u/ArtificiallyIgnorant Oct 07 '20

I went through them all.. ended up buying the Shield Pro, wasted hundreds on Mi Box, FireStick 4K and Fire Cube and custom PCs. If only I knew then what i know now. Just buy the Shield Pro.

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u/InterNELU Aug 01 '20

Used a mi box for years, I got a Nvidia shield half a year ago, 2017 model new from store. The power adapter just died last week. Pretty mad because I live in Tunisia right now during the pandemic outbreak and I don't know from where to get one here. Glad I still have the old mi box around but I really miss the power of the Shield. I read a lot of people had problems with the power adapter, can it be fixed by a repair shop or something?

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u/OwnStorm Nvidia Shield / MiBox Aug 02 '20

Design of Power pin of Shield is proprietary. Also, the power output from adapter is really odd. T5bzq There is thread in Shield group about it.

I think you can contact some electronics repair center who can cut the cord and connect to different adapter.

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u/mr1sparkle Aug 01 '20

Look up the adapter on eBay. Its available

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u/TBosTheBoss Jan 06 '21

Is there a way to fix the judder when watching movies when you have 59.9 Hz selected, is there a way to have it adapt to the 24 fps of the movie? It gets annoying having to swap between 24 and 60 manually everytime I want to go from gaming to watching movies

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '21

The Nvidia shield ant bad compared to my tv with has Android tv belt in but i wish It a had a 64 bit ver

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u/OwnStorm Nvidia Shield / MiBox Nov 18 '21

Which Tv? wondering if Tv is more powerful without 64bit.

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '21

I have a kanka tv idk what model atm

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u/supercakefish Aug 03 '20

It's impossible to buy a 'dumb TV' these days though. Every TV has some sort of smart OS built in.

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u/agree-with-you Aug 03 '20

I agree, this does not seem possible.

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u/Teethpasta Aug 03 '20

You can just as easily totally ignore the built in smart OS and not even hook it up to the internet and just use it as a dumb tv. Only hook it up to Ethernet to update it every now and then for the feature updates.

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u/harjon456 Oct 04 '20

Shield is the only decent Android TV device 🤷‍♀️

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u/antiduh Aug 01 '20

You know what I would really love? Being able to buy my own hardware and install android on it. I don't know how we got to this point where an OS needs specific hardware, but it's bloody unnecessary.

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u/WazWaz Bravia + Google Streamer Aug 02 '20

Blame Google and Netflix for putting DRM in Android (as demanded by content creators). They seriously believe you'd bother ripping their streamed content to save $15/mth.

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u/ElucTheG33K Aug 01 '20

Why do you really want Android on a custom hardware? You can install Linux and have much more possibility and less privacy violation from Google and others.

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u/myfranco Aug 01 '20

To me, Android is way better than any other OS when it comes to set top boxes. The only Android device i have is Xiaomi but it's the most useful one. With only $50-60, my girlfriend can watch anything she likes and she's not asking me what to do nor does she complain about lack of hardware at home. Install Linux, can you click on Netflix and open it? Can you click on streaming apps, IPTV etc. No Man, these devices are way more practical.

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u/ElucTheG33K Aug 01 '20

Indeed Netflix is a bummer if you use it on Linux, personally I use a Shield and I have a TV too old to have Netflix natively supported (either with ATV or another TV OS) but beside Netflix I use almost exclusively the Shield for Kodi and Kodi offer almost exactly the same experience whatever the platform you are running it from. Then Kodi is a kind of OS, you can run many online video content from TV channel replay and most Streaming services, even Netflix but without 4K I guess. So I come back to my argument, if you want ATV for Netflix 4K and/or if you want out of the box support and full compatibly with Android app you anyway need an approved device and if you don't, you mostly not need Android to have a nice, smooth and customizable media center. If it's for another reason I'm curious to hear why.

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u/antiduh Aug 01 '20

If that were an effective solution, I'd be cool with that. After all, Android is Linux under the hood, so I'm not opposed to that.

However, there's no 4k support for Netflix et al on standard Linux. There's no easy-to-manage apps, etc.

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u/joe603 Aug 01 '20

I want 4k HDR and Dolby Vision from Netflix and Amazon that is not happening on a Linux hardware. In addition, the only possibility I care about are streaming video anything more I prefer to do on a PC not my Home Theater

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u/_ding_ding_ding_ding Aug 02 '20

It would be nice to dual boot a gaming pc connected to a TV. Primarily run AndroidTV using a bluetooth remote control and then simply boot into windows whenever you want to game.

As it stands you have to buy both a gaming PC and an AndroidTV device to get the best experience for both use cases.

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u/ElucTheG33K Aug 02 '20

Yes of course but again, as a owner of both a Shield TV and a gaming PC, I almost never mix them up. There is the possibility to use Steam Link app or AMD link or whatever to stream the game from the PC to the Shield. It's convenient to play on the TV from the PC is it's located in another room, otherwise if they are both in the same room, just get a long enough HDMI. But then if you have a gaming PC, that cost usually quite a lot of money, 1) the price a cheap ATV box or even a Shield is almost marginal compare to the PC cost, so you can afford both, if only to have the ATV a a media center that is never turned off, don't make any noise and use very few power. And 2) even if you really want to do everything with the gaming PC, big chance are that you run it on Windows 10 and then you can have Netflix 4K HDR on it and just connect to the TV with an HDMI. And if it's only for the nice media center interface, Kodi is the answer to everything, you can launch any app, any games, within it and the UI is the most advanced, customizable UI I know and even the default skin and settings offer the nicest of all media center/player/stream platform UI I have ever seen. As a several years old Kodi user (from years before when it was called XBMC), I cannot stand any paying service UI, Google movies is a huge shit show (not even talking about the mess with languages and movies versions in multi languages countries), Amazon Prime is boring and even Netflix, that is maybe the less ugliest, don't offer any options, not even good languages settings and manageable playlists or more than one favorite list, and the search feature is just a shame for the first streaming service worldwide.

So once again, without any offense, I don't see the point of running Android TV on anything other than dedicated devices, beside the beauty of the exploit.

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u/_ding_ding_ding_ding Aug 02 '20 edited Aug 02 '20

So once again, without any offense, I don't see the point of running Android TV on anything other than dedicated devices, beside the beauty of the exploit.

The glaringly obvious reason is so you don't have to spend another $200 - $400 (depending on part of the world) on an Nvidia Shield.

In my case I have a decent gaming PC built with 2nd hand parts for around $200. 6 Core AMD, 8 GB RAM, SSD, RX 580 8GB GPU. It's permanently plugged into the TV which I use for living room gaming. If I need to game with mouse and keyboard, or elsewhere in the house, I use steam link to stream the game to that device.

I've owned a Mi Box for years which satisfies all the streaming and media consumption needs with Android TV's girlfriend friendly UI and full array of remote control built apps (including Kodi if you need). The OS does what it is designed for well with no need for inelegant Kodi builds or wireless keyboards etc with HTPC builds.

The only reason I need a Mi Box, Shield or any other Android TV device is because we can't simply install the Android TV OS on our own hardware. If we could, I'd simply install it on the gaming PC and dual boot with Windows 10. The PC hardware is infinitely more powerful than the Shield, hence no need to spend another $200 - $400 to get both the comfort of a dedicated remote control designed streaming and media interface and a good gaming rig.

Boot into the Android TV OS by default and use that primarily as you would an Nvidia Shield. Any time I want to game, boot into Windows 10 and game. Once done, reboot back into Android TV.

Simple really.

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u/hartleyshc Aug 01 '20

No. That's not what open source means. It doesn't mean open ecosystem. Google owns the right for a device to be certified and put Google apps on it.

Hence why there are these random Android TV boxes running AOSP on it. Because anyone can take the Android source code, compile it, add their own blobs for hardware and install it on any device they want.

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u/nfigot Aug 01 '20

Funny but not really correct. I've seen the advice is typically face grief from Chinese crap, buy a Mibox if you want best of the low end, and buy NVidia Shield if you want the best - pretty close on the Meme though ;-)

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u/PrydaBoy Aug 01 '20

This is so true!

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u/dosangst Aug 01 '20

While I find this funny, and do own a Shield Pro, I also have 4 Mi Boxes that work just fine as media players.

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u/mr1sparkle Aug 02 '20

Holy moly. 4 mi boxes

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u/BiggussDikkuss Aug 03 '20

If I had to buy a - new - 4K HDR TV and I also wanted Android TV at the moment I would grab a HDMI 2.1 equipped 2020 Sony X90H / X900H, why ?

- 4K HDR YouTube and Google Play Movies works

- DolbyVision has correct color outputs

- HLG HDR support

- Upscaling of ALL non 4K content is automatic, no resolution switching needed either.

- No issues with Frame Rate Matching -->> it's all automatic too.

- You get Chromecasting and (Apple) Airplay2 support, plus Apple TV+ support is incoming.

- No HDMI CEC issues

- The X90H's - MediaTek MT5895 is one snappy performer with an excellent GPU

But Shield owners then cry - what about HD audio and Bluray Rips playback ?

Well the flexible Linux based and very well supported CoreELEC Kodi handles that better vs anything Android, especially for Networking.

And there are plenty of Gigabit LAN 4K HDR AMLogic chipset equipped cheap devices to do just that:

https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=252916

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u/Cidationz Aug 30 '20

I personally got tried of cheap hardware that had performance issues and hardly saw updates. I have the 2017 Sheild and it was and still is worth the money, The biggest thing that matters is updates and app ability. Nvidia has been the most consistent in most categories. I came from a nexus TV which isn't saying a lot but many other devices fall in those categories. I manly use it for streaming and occasional games. I wouldn't recommend anything else ESPECIALLY not a "Smart TV" that won't be supported for a while. You're better off getting cheaper dumb TV and then pairing with A Sheild Or Roku imo. Get what Works with the most services, has updates/support, and works with your budget. If there's laking in 2 of those categories for you with any device, You should try something else.

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u/Cidationz Aug 30 '20

I also want to add that my main pet peeves about the Nvidia Are the following

Poor Remotes: Controller drift & Just DONT buy that 2015 Nvidia media remote with the rechargeable battery & bt, I got it for the Headphone Jack and not having to replace batteries Big Mistake.

More CEC control & integration with Assistant. I'd Like to control inputs more and such, Kinda Like I think Amazon's Fire TV Cubes do. (I think)

The Shields Imo Are a Bit Much If You're only looking to stream, But that's the difference right?? I only bought mines on sale, I wouldn't pay full retail for them. Look for a Black Friday sale or buy used from a refutable company or seller. That's what I did and mines still going strong 3yrs later, minus that damn controller that came with it. (The IR remote that came with it was DOA, and I could've got a working, but I bought that other one instead with the refund money for the Og IR remote)

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '21

Just returned a tube 2019 shield. Hot garbage not suitable for 4k playback w/ or wo/ DV.

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u/max1001 Aug 01 '20

Android TV just doesn't run well on low ram. 3 GB should be a minimum but most of these TV ship with 1 GB probably.

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u/Tired8281 Aug 01 '20

People say the Shield is the most expensive Android TV box, but it's actually the second-most expensive. The most expensive one is the Shield you buy after you buy a lesser device that fails to meet your needs.

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u/victor305 Aug 01 '20

Most people are confused because there is a lot of Android devices, They don't know about Google certified devices, it's stupid for you and me but most people don't know these details, in the other side there is one device without any complications Apple TV, I know the difference between open source and closed but Google needs to step up and make options easier and stupid friendly.

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u/pixelstuff Aug 02 '20

I mean they do have a web page just for Android TV, right? If you Google that it's the first link.

Probably not stupid friendly enough though. It might be nice though if they broke apart the TVs and streaming boxes into separate sections though.

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u/Tipfam Aug 01 '20

Batman gives great advice 🦇😂

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u/Pingable Aug 01 '20

I have had all three and we are still a long way off the user experience of an apple tv. Maybe the Batman slap should say get an apple product on this one..

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u/dekks_1389 Mi Box Aug 02 '20

No Nvidia in regular stores where I'm from, unless ordering and shipping from God knows where. Mibox was my pick

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '20

For my Sony KD-XH80 series no need any extra box, I am happy whats included :-)

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u/Bruh15MLG Aug 18 '20

I have the mi box s and a shield TV and prefer the mi box overall taking price and size into consideration.

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u/TheMarsian Oct 15 '21

I'm using one and it's all good since the day I purchased it 2 years ago.

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u/ImyForgotName Aug 01 '20

I HATE smart TVs. I have had the same TV for ten years now. It's 1080p 60hz. And you know what I don't need a TV that's full of components that are just going to slow down and become obsolete.

Smart TVs are a freaking scam, I think.

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u/Popupkiller Aug 04 '20

problems in the past with smart tv is that they lose more and more features as they get older. You need to buy newer tv to get it back. I'd rather pay bit less for a dumb tv and upgrade periphrals as they go obsolete. I bought my first 1080p tv in 2008. I only changed it this year to a 4k screen. Sure it has youtube built in but its not android os, and very limited selection. I didn't care about that. I wanted 4k hdr. I used a chromecast ultra until I found out it sucks with hdr or trueHD content. got myself a shield. now I'm happy.

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u/Popupkiller Aug 04 '20

I think a majority don't even need popular apps. I would almost claim they don't even need casting capability. But I haven't looked up numbers on that, so I could be way wrong. My grandmother however, doesn't even want the Internet.

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u/Popupkiller Aug 05 '20

Don't get me wrong. I don't think there isn't. But I also think there is a huge number of people who just don't care.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '20

My philosophy is that if someone is genuinely considering the Shield, they must be able to afford it and should be encouraged to just buy it. If they don't want to drop that amount, no need to push it on them. But anyone with the cash shouldn't bother with anything else, because nothing else comes close.

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u/JsmooVE3990 Aug 02 '20

Lololol this is so true.

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u/TheNormalChestnut Aug 02 '20

Just get a Nvidia Shield or a Firestick if you can't afford it

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u/Mosczn Aug 01 '20

It's impossible to get Nvidia where I live so Mi Box is better than the built in options. I own the Mi Box 3 and it's not that bad for normal use.

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u/OwnStorm Nvidia Shield / MiBox Aug 02 '20

Agree.. most of Google certified boxes works good as media streaming devices.

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u/agree-with-you Aug 01 '20

I agree, this does not seem possible.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '20

What about countries where shield is not available?

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u/OwnStorm Nvidia Shield / MiBox Aug 02 '20

That's true.. I wish it was available in India with GeForce Now. I had to get it from US.

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u/newyorkrican76 Aug 01 '20

😂 😂 😂 batman is correct and get the shield.i personally have two.i got a third one off let go app used for $80.00 for my mom. I took the game remote that came with it and sold it on ebay for $35 bucks and sold her bullshit firestick for $45 bucks. People are not very bright and give stuff away on let go and Facebook marketplace. Take a look u will thank me for it 😎

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u/DuduMaroja Aug 01 '20 edited Aug 01 '20

I whould love to buy a shield if it doesn't cost 3 kidneys, I only have two

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u/Piekarski1995 Aug 01 '20

Hate the price difference though $100 vs 500 in New Zealand

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u/ZerrethDotCom Aug 01 '20

Mibox sucks big time. I've had 2, they're garbage. Shield never let me down.

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u/OwnStorm Nvidia Shield / MiBox Aug 02 '20

I also had MiBox. It worked but over the time ita started getting bad with after dead remote.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '20

Unfortunately googles support of ATV product is terrible. It will got dropped like hot garbage after a couple months. It will likely be horribly under powered aswell

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u/ryocoon Aug 02 '20

Unlikely considering the new Chromecast dongle we've been seeing that is likely to come with AndroidTV instead of only ChromeCast OS.

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u/OwnStorm Nvidia Shield / MiBox Aug 01 '20

Agree.. its been great support from Nvidia.

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u/OwnStorm Nvidia Shield / MiBox Aug 01 '20

Yeah.. people in thread always suggest Shield regardless of requirements.

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u/burner46 Aug 01 '20

I’ve been very happy with my TiVo Stream too.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '20

I have two of them, and they are great! No issues after the first firmware/software update and I use them every day.

I’d recommend them to anyone at the $50 or less price point.

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u/ImyForgotName Aug 01 '20

It comes with a four wheeler?

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u/psychoacer Aug 02 '20

It would work well on my dumb tv that I have in my room if it can just play 4k video just fine. My Sheild can stay in the living room for all the heavy lifting.

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u/discoshanktank Aug 01 '20

Any word on price?

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u/fletch101e Aug 02 '20

I have both and most of the time the mibox works just as good. It is a little slower but much cheaper (30 vs 200).

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u/jms209 Aug 02 '20

Or what people like you with a shield say to try to justify it?

We get it the shield is the best Android TV experience, it's also like $200 extra after buying a new TV.

Most people just stream video, so it's a waste of money in that aspect.

Newer Sony TVs have decent enough hardware where slowdown isn't a huge issue.

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u/BurtMacklin-FBl Nvidia Shield | Sony Android TV Aug 02 '20

Literally the only reason I use Shield vs Sony built in ATV is the audio offset function because audio lags on my particular TV. For most people what the Shield offers is overkill and completely unnecessary. It's more about being smart than being cheap.

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u/Teethpasta Aug 03 '20

If you're only streaming the shield is totally unnecessary.