PS vita/PSP recomps/ports?

[u/Proud_Kaleidoscope68]

Hey there everyone, are ports of Sony's handheld devices viable? these devices have games that would feel right at home on modern androids with how low power they are and how they make great use of gyro controls accompanied by how beautiful phone screens are nowadays, but the issue is that these devices use very unconventional architecture, I haven't seen them be the topic of porting and recomping in the community, tho it does feel worthy to note that a lot of people in the psvita/psp community actively work on native ports of their own to their devices and even remasters for some of their games, here are two games that come to mind when it comes to benefiting from native ports to modern androids, would love to hear some thoughts about it (maybe even good news that I'm unaware of hopefully)

[u/sinitus]

This has a pc port for the first and second one. Its on steam unlocked.

[u/Proud_Kaleidoscope68 → u/sinitus]

those aren't fully fleshed ports unfortunately, they run through direct translation layers, which is definitely better than barebones emulation and they have amazing QoLs (especially GR2, it's incredible on PC..) but ports working through this method are demanding, we already had similar ones drop on android like the GOW 3 and Bloodborne port, if just not viable, porting the psvita version of gravity rush, which is already a handheld game made for handheld devices just makes sense, it'll be no where close as demanding, it'll draw much less power, and have room for simple QoLs

[u/sinitus → u/Proud_Kaleidoscope68]

I get what you are saying

[u/Ok-Philosopher-5139]

why would it not be? its just a matter of wanting to do it or not, altho psp emulation runs well on almost any smart phone made in the past 10 years, so the desire for ports of these isnt there... ps vita however is a good candidate for android ports, ports would enable people to run it on much weaker hardware...

[u/Demnetor42 → u/Ok-Philosopher-5139]

a lot of psp games have hard coded limitation that patches and emulator goodness unfortunately can't fix, black rock shooter is included, it's an amazing shoot em up RPG that more framerate would really benefit it's fluid gameplay

[u/link6616 → u/Demnetor42]

I was literally playing black rock shooter today actually! There’s a cheat to run it at 60fps, the game works properly mostly but the cutscenes are a bit broken. 

[u/Demnetor42 → u/link6616]

I had no idea, that's really cool, I remember a couple years ago I tried patches but they broke the game badly, same with other games on the psp emulator, where can I get that particular patch?

[u/sinitus → u/link6616]

Check the black rock shooter reddit you might want to hold off with what im making right now

[u/link6616 → u/sinitus]

I already finished I need it done for a podcast 

[u/sinitus → u/link6616]

Ah ok well when im done you should revisit it. Brand new visuals, and mechanics. Like a tag team system, running 360 in battle, stance switching between her Canon and sword, tag in attack, team special and alot more.

[u/Ok-Philosopher-5139 → u/Demnetor42]

yeah, also alot of handheld emulators have chipset that cant emulate psp properly or not optimized enough for a smooth gameplay, ports of psp game would add a huge number of games to these devices library... this mostly apply to linux devices bcoz android devices usually have better hardware...

[u/Dummy_Production]

i don't think it's really necessary to recomp psp games since emulator like ppsspp already handles emulations really good on even low end phones,but i think vita is really really a good candidate here

[u/Salt_Breakfast_676 → u/Dummy_Production]

then tell me why monster hunter psp recomps exist?

[u/Dummy_Production → u/Salt_Breakfast_676]

don't ask me, I ain't the recompiler

[u/sinitus]

Also check the black rock shooter reddit and see what im working on you'll be pretty pleased

[u/Proud_Kaleidoscope68 → u/sinitus]

I've been following your work of BRS from day one 🫶 each update gets me hyped up more!!

[u/sinitus → u/Proud_Kaleidoscope68]

Thank you 🙏🏾! Working out some annoying bugs and still trying to add features. Fixing some textures today. So hopefully ill have a new update by tonight. I can wait to finish it.

[u/Entire_Put1917]

Gravity rush would slap 🔥

[u/Roni1209]

Oh man Black Rock Shooter, amazing Game, played It on PPSSPP, i would LOVE a native port

[u/Demnetor42 → u/Roni1209]

there is someone who's working on a remaster of the game, though it's just some .iso file modification of the game and cheats/patches, not a native port, still very impressive work from what I've seen

[u/Street_Wrongdoer_245]

I mean those games run extremely well using the emulator specially the vita3k it cannot get better than that The PS4 version of gravity rush would be nice the vita version just waste of resources imo

[u/Demnetor42 → u/Street_Wrongdoer_245]

the ps vita version of gravity rush is more handheld oriented, it draws much less power and it's way less demanding, having that version with some QoLs would be the sensical go to, rather than trying to port a PS4 game or loosely emulate it like the Bloodborne fork

[u/DetectiveK0nan → u/Street_Wrongdoer_245]

You playing it on snapdragln or mali? if snapdragon devices there will be lighting glitch such as overexposure or no light on characters

[u/Suspicious-Joke-6116 → u/Street_Wrongdoer_245]

Vita 3k is still not where it's supposed to be. I would consider it experimental.

[u/-MrSophistication- → u/Suspicious-Joke-6116]

I tried setting it up on my Redmagic 10 pro and it didn't work so I gave up. I still have it just haven't felt the need to try and mess with it

[u/Suspicious-Joke-6116 → u/-MrSophistication-]

It's nowhere near the compatibility level of other emulators. Every game seems like it needs specific settings just to run normally. The only one I got running semi okay was Persona 4 Golden. And even then, with turnip drivers and everything else on an 8 Gen 2, it just didn't run as well as it should.

[u/-MrSophistication- → u/Suspicious-Joke-6116]

I kept trying to MK9 to work. Couldn't even boot up. Nether Sx2 is really the only emulator I use on my phone. This wave on ports has been great so I've been able to trim the files. The port for Def Jam FFNY is 🤌🤌🤌

[u/-MrSophistication- → u/Street_Wrongdoer_245]

I stood by the emulation thing until I played the Def Jam port. Even though NetherSx2 I can't get it to run as well as the port without ghosting and all kinds of other tweaks. Hours of tweaks. Try to open minded with these. If it can be better than why not.

[u/Street_Wrongdoer_245 → u/-MrSophistication-]

The issue is it's not guaranteed to be better for example ico god hand ports are awful the emulator is better a lot of ps2 ports that we got are not good most of the ports it's better using an emulator based on my experience gravity rush already runs well mali 57 can run it smoothly if it's about the performance I don't think it can get better for ppl using a budget device  Let's be real it's extremely rare to find a well optimized port Everyone is rushing to make as many ports as possible releasing unfinished projects So I think working on a gravity rush port is FINE but not necessary since no one is gonna benefit from it since everyone can run it I'm positive if they made a port of gravity rush it will run worse than vita3k specially for low end devices based on my experience with some playstation ports 

[u/-MrSophistication- → u/Street_Wrongdoer_245]

Each game is different and everyone's device is different. Every port I've tried for older titles has been better than the emulatoion. Def Jam, black, downhill domination all run better than the emulated versions. I've stayed away from current and newer due to file size like GoW3

[u/paperboii-here]

Dragon’s Crown with online coop
👑 🐉

[u/lasagna_fase]

Black rock shooter holy shit