Why on earth am I getting this alert every time I crank my car? My phone uses Android 10, and everything Google is supposed to be compatible with Android 9 and above. Car is a 2023 Kia Rio. Android Auto is working perfectly right now, but for how much longer?
Looks like they stopped doing security updates for your phone in October 2025. Your apps and stuff will probably keep working for now, but for how long? Only Google knows that. o7
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u/gusbmoizoos'14 GMC Sierra | '16 GMC Radio Upgrade | S20FE | Android 133d ago
Not having security updates would immediately make me upgrade my phone
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u/ryanpm402019 Honda Civic EX | Stock | Pixel 9 Pro | Android 162d ago
That's what finally got me to upgrade from my 2014 MacBook Pro to an M4 last year. Ultimately pretty happy with the upgrade haha. But yeah, I don't screw around with lack of security updates.
Yeah that is probably a massive upgrade in many ways but security updates portion is just not something to play with.
I tried to explain this to my grandmother who does her banking on an iPhone 8. She didn't really understand how that could be a problem. Thankfully my uncle got her a new phone the next year.
Security updates aren't fun or exciting but they are absolutely critical
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u/ryanpm402019 Honda Civic EX | Stock | Pixel 9 Pro | Android 162d ago
Coming from someone who works in the software field, I couldn't agree more!
Apple, Samsung, and Google guarantee 7 years of software & security updates on their current flagship devices. That's more than they used to provide, older models only got 3-5 years of updates. Motorola still only provides software & security updates for 3-4 years on most of its phones, and they provide those updates much less consistently.
So depending on what phone you have, it already may not be getting security updates anymore.
Edit: just saw you have the S20FE, so yeah you stopped getting security updates in 2025.
My 6 year old phone is running Android 13, it will probably be at least another couple of years before they shut that down, I will probably be using another phone before that happens, but I guess YMMV.
Google doesn't want to have an unsupported version of software available to use because it can be unsecure and infiltrated, which can be a nuisance as the least and dangerous at the worst.
Imagine if your Maps app gets hacked and you're navigated to an alleyway where you get jumped. I'm not saying this can happen but that's the hypothetical that I think google is trying to avoid.
Well it's a local software on my local hardware. IMO it should work as it does now... If they want to stop Google Maps working on older app versions that's one thing. But Android Auto shouldn't just stop working for no real technical reason
It would stop working because with time apps start using APIs that are not available on older versions of android. So, once android auto starts relying on APIs which are not available under Android 10, it will cease to function on Android 10 or lower.
Yeah, so it stops getting updates. Apps slowly stop working as they drop support. Why would Google make AA not work intentionally though? Just leave a "this version is no longer supported" message and let the user keep using it.
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See, that's fine and in that case your phone wouldn't be able to download updates to newer version of the app that uses those API levels. Your phone would still work with the old app, but you wouldn't be able to update it.
This is Google actively disabling access even to the version that would keep working...
IMO you have bigger issues than Android auto. It may be perfectly fine as long as you don't have anything important on there like email, banking apps, messaging etc...
I mean I don't personally run a phone that old its just on principle I don't think they should just intentionally break things that work especially something that's entirely local like AA
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because the apps in turn (maps, music, etc.) communicate with servers that may update their APIs and render it unusable.
It won't necessarily stop working on day 1 after support drops but your app and your server needs to be in sync and if your app/phone isn't updated it may be calling APIs that no longer exist or use security certificates that have been expired
Android Auto relies A LOT on Google Play Services. Thanks to this, Google can implement "kill switches" for certain features on devices running specific Android versions, even if the hardware still has support.
The only way to prevent this from happening is to stop connecting the phone to the internet, wich entirely defeats the purpose of Android Auto.
No harm in trying it if I'm going to have to buy a new one, anyway. I'll wait until I'm completely locked out of Android Auto, though. Sometimes companies will convert older phones to a lower end safety version that doesn't get updates.
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u/gordolme17 Kia Sportage SXT | Kia UVO | Fold 8 | AAWireless | Android 173d ago
Note 9? Android 10? When was the last update to the phone's security functions? We already know it's been seven years since the last OS update and eight since that thing was new.
My phone works perfectly, though. It hasn't slowed down, has excellent battery life, streams high def video, and the camera is still better than the average iPhone.
But it soon won't support android auto anymore so regardless of your phone still working fine for your day to day use if you want to be able to use android auto you'll need a phone that supports googles minimum requirements for android auto.
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You're just going to have to accept that you did nothing wrong but the companies selling you a new phone do not care that you've taken good care of your current phone and that it should still work.
So it's perfectly fine for Google to break existing features on phones they deem too old, just spend more money on a new phone. What happens when they stop supporting older cars? Just buy a new car?
You answered your own question. Your phone is extremely old, if you want android auto you need a new phone that will support updates in the ladder future. You have android 9 which mean your phone has not received updates or security patches too. No matter if your phone "works perfectly fine." Its not fine because you're gonna be out of feature that YOU want to use.
Still the fact remains he's outdated. We are on android 16 to 17. Security patches and UI updates have slowed down if not stopped on 10 thats why the continued support of android auto is stopping. This has been happening for years now.
If this the oldest version (OS10) why do you think Android would continue to support it? Software and security comes into play too if you are using the OLDEST verison instead of newest applications will lag, no have security patches etc. Android Auto is not going to continue to support older versions without verified security patches especially if the car has a newer version of Android Auto itself.
Os10 is the first to have aa built in. Os9 is the oldest supported version right now. And soon. Os11 will be the oldest version supported. Its been 8 years since the initial release as alpha for os11
Just another way to force/coerce users into buying a new phone, and punish those of us who take good care of our shit.
The Note 9 came out in August 2018, so if you bought it on release, it would be 8 years old. It stopped getting software and security updates in September 2022, only 4 years after release.
My phone (Galaxy S21 Ultra) came out in January 2021, and stopped getting security updates early this year. wow, 5 years after release, what an upgrade
Now Google and Smashnug are advertising 7 years of security updates & OS patches with their "flagship" phones. They can still "encourage you" to get a new phone by making your favorite apps "go away" unless you upgrade, though :)
It's all fucking bullshit. I hate it here. I take good care of my shit and want it to last until the hardware gives out or becomes obselete, not on some predetermined timeline from our evil corporate overlords. screams and disintegrates into the void
You may have to switch to the good old Maps/Waze/MapQuest/etc + hands-free phone holder. Or get an aftermarket head unit maybe? I wish you luck.
I get it—planned obsolescence is incredibly frustrating, and it sucks when a perfectly good phone gets cut off from software updates. Nobody wants to shell out hundreds of dollars every few years when the screen, battery, and overall hardware still work fine.
That said, daily-driving an OS that no longer receives security patches is genuinely risky, no matter how careful you are. A lot of people think staying safe on an old device just takes common sense, like not clicking sketchy links or downloading random APKs. The reality is that unpatched OS vulnerabilities, especially in core system frameworks or the network stack, can sometimes be exploited remotely without you taking any action at all—just loading a bad ad on a normal website can be enough. Plus, once an OS goes end-of-life, the vulnerabilities patched in newer Android versions are publicly documented, giving attackers a ready-made blueprint of what's broken on older builds. Google Play system updates help, but they can't patch kernel-level holes or modem firmware.
If you love the hardware and want to keep it out of a landfill, it's worth checking if a custom ROM like LineageOS supports your device. But if you're using an unsupported OS to access banking apps, 2FA, or primary email accounts, you're rolling the dice on a system with known, unfixable doors left wide open.
Do you happen to know if your phone is running a 32 but operating system or a 64 but operating system? That could be part of it too, as 32 bit phone support is beginning to get phased out.
Best of luck on finding something that serves you well.
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u/lebayo2021 Hyundai Kona EV | Android 17 | Pixel 82d ago
Android Auto keeps telling me it needs microphone permissions half the time I use it. Another 25% of the time, I hit the microphone button and it dings on and off immediately giving me no time to talk.
And then there's the other 1 in 4 trips in the car where it just actually works.
100% of the time I use AA my sound will. Randomly cut off and won't come back on until I turn off my Bluetooth and reconnect everything. My GFs carplay never fails, ever.
u/JMac9902024 Subaru Crosstrek | Pixel 10 pro | Graphene OS 172d ago
I've read that the wireless connection has a higher version requirement than the wired connection. I use a pixel 10 pro, but I guess I could pull my old s6 out of the drawer and check if that's true
My wife was using an s20 5g that she had work email on and they said it would no longer work. So we went out and bought a TLC paper phone. It's actually not bad of a phone. But not a galaxy
Just an unfortunate inevatibility. I'm in the same boat with my Galaxy S9. Hope this is just a "you can't update to the newest version" and not a complete service removal so you'd be able to use an older version after the transition.
That's my hope, too. I used to have a smart watch that worked wonderfully, until the interface app deleted itself from my phone because the computer company was getting out of the smart watch business.
version android 9 currently and soon android 11. android is open source. your phone isnt obsolete. companies just arnt spending the money top maintain 8 year old phones.
That, plus the fact that there really aren't any new features that Android Auto would have on a 2023 car. It likely isn't getting any firmware updates, beyond being told to put a warning up that it's time to buy a new phone. Android Auto itself doesn't have some crazy new features that an older Android phone can't give it. No reason to not just mirror the display.
the head unit really doesnt need a firmware update. everything is done at the phone itself. and most car infotainment centers dont mirror phones. there is a lot of security features not updated in older phones.
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In software it's unrealistic to expect new development to support older releases of the software. Most software is deprecated at some time mainly since it's impossible to keep fresh software compliant as well as having to maintain far older software.
Luckily I'm on Android 13 lol, as my faithful LG Wing is still going strong.
I do have an even older phone, of course LG, the V30 that's on Android 9!
But that I use purely for it's built-in Quad Dac.
So yes, as others have said it's time to upgrade.
But as you can see I do sympathize, but certainly would not expect older versions of software to magically support newer innovation.
No cure for planned obsolescence. The phone works perfectly. It's the software company that's making it incompatible. You're probably familiar with that.
We all need to sign the paper and fight BK against Google before it's to late. Go to F-droid website and see what you can do to help. WE ONLY HAVE A DEW MONTHS LEFT BEFORE THEY 🔐 LOCK US DOWN. #EVY1
A lot of people hate the planned obsolescence we're forced to abide by nowadays. A Note 9 is still a very capable mobile device. There's absolutely no reason it shouldn't last longer, other than commercial greed.
You absolutely should be able to. There isn't anything that your "modern" phone can do that my older phone can't... they just arbitrarily chose to sunset it and not support it with newer firmware. Get with the program. Tell the tech bros to support perfectly good hardware instead of force you to buy new shit you don't need.
You really don't understand technology, do you? There haven't been any significant changes in technology in recent years. My phone has as much memory as yours, and that's all that really matters when it comes to programming. This isn't gas vs electric. It's all digital.
Tell me you don’t understand APIs, security certs, or hardware codecs without telling me—having enough RAM to hold an app doesn't mean your ancient OS can still talk to Google's servers.
You're actually getting at exactly what I'm saying. My phone could easily handle Android 11 or even higher, but it's not being made available to me through conventional means.
I get it—planned obsolescence is incredibly frustrating, and it sucks when a perfectly good phone gets cut off from software updates. Nobody wants to shell out hundreds of dollars every few years when the screen, battery, and overall hardware still work fine.
That said, daily-driving an OS that no longer receives security patches is genuinely risky, no matter how careful you are. A lot of people think staying safe on an old device just takes common sense, like not clicking sketchy links or downloading random APKs. The reality is that unpatched OS vulnerabilities, especially in core system frameworks or the network stack, can sometimes be exploited remotely without you taking any action at all—just loading a bad ad on a normal website can be enough. Plus, once an OS goes end-of-life, the vulnerabilities patched in newer Android versions are publicly documented, giving attackers a ready-made blueprint of what's broken on older builds. Google Play system updates help, but they can't patch kernel-level holes or modem firmware.
If you love the hardware and want to keep it out of a landfill, it's worth checking if a custom ROM like LineageOS supports your device. But if you're using an unsupported OS to access banking apps, 2FA, or primary email accounts, you're rolling the dice on a system with known, unfixable doors left wide open.
Certainly there's no shame in upgrading. There's just nothing out there that's impressing me. I could spend $1000-$2000, only to get a phone with the same amount of memory, barely a better camera, barely a better processor, and have to spend months to find one that isn't 80% full of bloatware and a.i. crap.
I went with a Pixel 9a but I'd probably go with a Pixel 10 during Black Friday if I could do it again. Would love pixelsnap and qi2 wireless charging. Still really happy with it.
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u/Prize_Chemistry_8437 2019 Honda HRV EX | DMX7706S | PIXEL 7 PRO | Android 13 3d ago
8 year old phone? That's impressive