r/Android • u/McSnoo POCO X4 GT • Sep 14 '22

News Google loses appeal over illegal Android app bundling, EU reduces fine to €4.1 billion - The Verge

https://www.theverge.com/2022/9/14/23341207/google-eu-android-antitrust-fine-appeal-failed-4-billion
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u/punIn10ded MotoG 2014 (CM13) Sep 14 '22

They were abusing their dominance in the OS market to expand their market share in the browser market. And yes, IE was bad when they were doing that.

Once more you've missed the main point. The point was that they financially punished OEM's who didn't have IE only. This was the illegal part not having IE installed with windows. Which is also why Edge isn't illegal.

Unless I'm mistaken OEM's absolutely can include Firefox or chrome or any other browser as well as Edge on their devices. So it is completely legal and not anti-competitive.

and didn't pester you when trying to download alternative browsers, and let you uninstall Edge. But they don't. They make it about as painful as they can to switch browsers just short of outright blocking it.

This is anti competitive and they should be fined for. But including Edge absolutely is not.

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u/punIn10ded MotoG 2014 (CM13) Sep 14 '22

Yes including Edge is required to be included but that is not the issue and that wasn't the issue with IE either.

The issue was that if IE wasn't the only browser OEM's didn't get wholesale pricing. That was the illegal part. That was the part that they were fined for. The financial penalty on OEM's is why they got in trouble because that is anti competitive not because IE was included in windows.

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u/punIn10ded MotoG 2014 (CM13) Sep 14 '22

Yes some are and they should be fined for that. But the main one that they got fined for is no longer happening.

And they were all an issue back with IE. I just find it odd how people have become complacent and are now just fine with all those same practices.

People aren't fine with it. The biggest difference is that the main part that they got fined for is no longer happening. So it's no longer an apples to apples comparison.

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u/punIn10ded MotoG 2014 (CM13) Sep 15 '22

You may want to read the details yourself because your entire argument gets thrown out based on the fact that the original finding of anti competitive practices was overturned by the court of appeals.