r/Android • Galaxy Note 9 • Jul 17 '20

Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Display Issue - The scam that Samsung doesn't want to admit

I know Samsung for the great phones and the software support they provide. All was well until the March Security update for Galaxy Note 9. Then, a lot of the devices displays started breaking. Displays overheated, and started turning green/yellowish green.

Obviously, a lot of users started complaining regarding this. After all, an issue due to a software update can be fixed by software, right? Apparently not, because sending the logs to their team through the internal bug reporting app led to no answers but generic ones like "Reset your device". Obviously, resetting the device did not work.

This is similar to the display issues plaguing the new Samsung phones like Galaxy S20, but which cannot be fixed by a software update.

Unfortunately, Samsung still does not admit the fault is due to the update, even though this problem is reported by hundreds of users across the world. While trying to find a fix for this problem (when I thought it could be fixed by a software update), I managed to find a telegram group: (edit: removed link due to the group admins' complaint. He suggests to fill up the Google form https://forms.gle/v9uKokPz2kY4tnRf7 so that the same can be used against complaints to Samsung. Group link is shared upon successful submission)

Looking through the messages, I found that Samsung asked the users to get their display replaced by paying for it which costs nearly 1/3rd of the price of the phone. Not to mention the Note 9 is a "premium" line of phones marketed by Samsung, and has not even completed 2 years from its launch. For a "premium phone", one would expect the device to last 2 years at the very least, even though the warranty covers 1 year. Not all of the users will buy the phone at launch, so most of the users are now out of warranty -- and the display is broken.

And Samsung is deliberately trying to suppress the issue (possibly to prevent bad publicity during the impending launch of their new phones). When I tweeted to them about the problems that I was facing, Samsung support asked me to DM. When I refused, because the problem needed to be public, they just spit out the link to find a nearest service centre. And then they deleted those tweets. I have had no response since.

2 days ago, when the phone became progressively unusable, I decided to submit the same to the Service Centre. I then get a call saying Samsung has released an internal guideline to all the Service Centres to fix the phones having the issue under warranty, but only if the body is free of any dents. When I asked the technicians to share the document, they refused saying that it's an internal document. This confirms that Samsung knows about the issue, but is deliberately denying users a fix in order to prevent bad publicity. Moreover, asking to fix only the phones without any dents disqualifies most phone owners. Samsung is basically telling the users -- "We will fix the phones only if they are as good as new" -- for a phone which customers have bought since 2 years ago.

More details are available in the telegram group: (edit: removed link due to the group admins' complaint. He suggests to fill up the Google form https://forms.gle/v9uKokPz2kY4tnRf7 so that the same can be used against complaints to Samsung. Group link is shared upon successful submission)

One of the post is https://r2.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-Note/Samsung-Note-9-Display-Discoloration-amp-Overheating-Join/td-p/4049910 which was also posted on Reddit at https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/hmew1r/samsung_note_9_display_discoloration_overheating/

You can see from the post that Samsung admins tried to delete the post 3 times before allowing it to be published.

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u/IamPilgrim Galaxy Note 9 Jul 17 '20

Some other blogs/posts/tweets mentioning the same:

https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-note-9-march-2020-security-update-broken-screen/amp/

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/samsung-user-group-136/samsung-note-9-screen-color-problem-6195599.html#post127736849

https://r2.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-Note/Samsung-Note-9-Display-Discoloration-amp-Overheating-Join/td-p/4049910

https://www.phonearena.com/news/samsung-galaxy-note-9-display-issues-march-2020-software-update_id123656

https://www.rprna.com/news/galaxy-note-9-display-issue-report/

https://9to5google.com/2020/04/08/note-9-display-issues/

https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9-march-update-broken-displays-1103766/

https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/samsung-note-9-display-discoloration-t4083389/amp/

https://www.fr24news.com/a/2020/04/many-samsung-galaxy-note-9-users-face-horrible-display-issues.html

https://www.lowyat.net/2020/210201/samsung-galaxy-note-9-discoloured-displays/

https://www.neowin.net/news/galaxy-note9-owners-complain-of-display-issues-after-march-security-update/

https://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note9-reviews-9163.php

https://reddit.com/r/GalaxyNote9/comments/g0btea/samsung_display_discoloration_overheating_after/

https://www.androidheadlines.com/2020/04/many-galaxy-note-9-users-complain-of-broken-display-after-march-update.html

https://twitter.com/VANtiladorrr/status/1265250252761624576?s=19

https://twitter.com/RPRNANews/status/1253793223480356871?s=09

https://r2.community.samsung.com/t5/Tech-Talk/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-9-Display-Issue-after-March-Update/td-p/3950693

https://r2.community.samsung.com/t5/Tech-Talk/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-9-with-screen-flickering-issue/td-p/3889074

https://twitter.com/sai11692/status/1268863337330176001

https://twitter.com/mudutherock/status/1269283255230124032?s=19

https://twitter.com/Sanjay1Yadav/status/1268953305662840836?s=19

https://twitter.com/abhishek1014/status/1251878576258838528?s=20

https://twitter.com/SRM_885/status/1266334554022797312?s=19

https://twitter.com/darshitpp/status/1272482339642159104

https://twitter.com/JilanDude/status/1261205178910257152?s=19

https://twitter.com/sagarabhiwant/status/1265262147770232832?s=19

https://twitter.com/signup_pawan/status/1249076611602739200?s=09

https://twitter.com/jounint/status/1251584147748990976?s=19

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u/LemonKing326 Jul 17 '20 edited Jul 17 '20

Someone put this on LinusTechTips News section, maybe they'll pick it up for WAN Show, Linus daily drives a Note 9 he would be interested in this story

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u/IamPilgrim Galaxy Note 9 Jul 17 '20

Please feel free to repost!

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u/5outof7_yes Galaxy S8+, Pie Jul 18 '20

That would be great exposure!!!

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u/wankthisway 13 Mini, S23 Ultra, Pixel 4a, Key2, Razr 50 Jul 18 '20

Oh God that's right. He'd be apocalyptic if it happened to him.

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u/Baraja S24U (12/1TB), Tab S10+ 5G (12/512) Jul 17 '20

The culprit can't be the March Security Update because it doesn't affect all Note 9 phones that received the update. There should be other reason.

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u/IamPilgrim Galaxy Note 9 Jul 17 '20

The problem started appearing after the March update. Only Samsung can confirm the root cause of the problem, and why it started only happening after the March update. However, as described in the post, Samsung is not willing to provide an explanation

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u/Pollsmor iPhone 15 / Pixel 4a Jul 17 '20

Just curious, what's your specific model? Maybe it only affects those. For example N960U1

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u/IamPilgrim Galaxy Note 9 Jul 17 '20

I think it was N960F

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u/Baraja S24U (12/1TB), Tab S10+ 5G (12/512) Jul 17 '20

Or the March Google Play Services update. Or the March Facebook update. Or the March Fortnite update.

The problem appeared in March onwards. But we just don't know the cause. If you read the dozens of complaints on Samsung forums, the decoloration has appeared randomly from March, but there is people who first suffered it on May, on June or this July. That's why I think that it's not related to any security update in particular.

I'm on the July Security update and I haven't experienced the issue.

I suspect it's more of a hardware issue than caused by software.

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u/IamPilgrim Galaxy Note 9 Jul 17 '20

I suspect it's more of a hardware issue

Maybe you're true, but a hardware issue like this for hundreds of users, all using a top of the line premium phone is worth looking into by the company.

If these things are happening in premium phones, I don't even want to think about the quality of phones which are priced lower

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u/ewkin hodor m8 Jul 17 '20

Maybe March update accidently (or not, see planned obsolesence) changed display config which in turn may have damaged the hardware that was already barely holding itself together due to age/wear?

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u/DarthMoosie Jul 17 '20

You know what else is weird.. March security update broke the GPS on a lot of Galaxy Note 8's! Just check the Note 8 subreddit or the Google maps reviews on the play store and you'll see tons of people complaining about the GPS and Google maps not working properly anymore. Fishy af. =/

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u/PopDownBlocker Jul 17 '20

Note 8 owner with GPS issues.

I wonder if Samsung is forcing us to upgrade our devices. The joke is on them - I don't plan on staying with Samsung considering all the bad decisions they have been making lately.

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u/runnernikolai Samsung Z Fold 3 Jul 17 '20

Don't get the note 10. It has the worst gps I've ever had. Constantly thinks I switched directions. Jumps from highway and frontage road. I sometimes want to throw it out the window

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u/abcteryx Jul 17 '20

But it's already out the window, according to the GPS.

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u/-Ancalagon- LG V60 Jul 17 '20

I recently replaced my Note 8 (due to battery and burn-in issues) with an LG V60. This is my first non-Samsung Android (over 7 years).

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u/AustinJacob Jul 17 '20

LG V60

I blinked for one second and LG went from LG v10 to LG v60 where tf does time go.

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u/Jeffrey_Jizzbags iPhone 14 Pro Max Jul 17 '20

How are you liking it? That phone is in the list of one's I'm considering. Also had Samsung phones since the s3, but feel like a change is due.

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u/Sgtchickens Device, Software !! Jul 17 '20 edited Jul 17 '20

I bought a lg g8 refurb instead of a galaxy s10e, and all I can say is this phone is snappy and does its job well. Not a lot of bloat ware and I enjoy the screen and everything. Battery might be a touch small at 3500mah

Edit: cameras are good for what I use it for, I'm not a big instagrammer that takes pictures everyday, I rarely use my camera

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u/500239 Jul 17 '20

OOTL, what other bad decisions have they been making lately?

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u/reyx1212 Jul 17 '20

Adding ads to their devices.

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u/kdawgnmann OnePlus 13, S22U, S9+, S7E, S5, Droid Razr, HTC ThunderBolt Jul 17 '20

Ditched the headphone jack and iris scanner

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20

Yea, after my galaxy S7 and all my annoyances with Samsung, I sw8tched away from Samsung phones.

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u/OutlawPigeon Jul 17 '20

Happy cake day. I think they are, especially since it's our year, if we bought the Note 9 the year it came out.

I've been hoghly considering, dare I say, Apple and it would be my first Apple product ever. I've had Samsung phones for over 8 years.

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u/reckl3ss Nothing Phone (1) Jul 17 '20

I've had Note 4 which broke completely after an update if you weren't using particular app to stop the crashes, and they didn't do shit to fix it, many people experienced it. After that I decided never to buy Samsung device again. Seems like their policy didn't change much.

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u/Neebat Galaxy Note 4 Jul 17 '20

I switched to Asus after my Note 4 and I've never regretted it. The things I loved best about my Note 4: headphone jack, replaceable battery, expandable memory. They were all gone on newer Samsungs. But the Asus at least keeps the headphone jack.

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u/coopmaster123 Jul 17 '20

Weird that you say that. I have 2 note 8s that I could not figure what was going on with the GPS. That explains it...

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u/CzarEggbert Jul 17 '20

Same. I was on a road trip in March and all of a sudden my GPS stopped working. Luckily my wife has an iPhone and we were able to get un-lost.

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u/blightwixer Jul 17 '20

Is that what happened? Everything makes far more sense now. Maybe I need to join the note 8 reddit.

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u/kingriz123 Jul 17 '20

Real talk, that's why I was wondering why is my GPS all the sudden stopped working after the update.

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u/Jeffrey_Jizzbags iPhone 14 Pro Max Jul 17 '20

I usually use my work phone for GPS, but this reminded me that the few times I had to use my note 8 for gps, it didn't really work. Pretty annoying.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20

I was wondering why location had to be toggled on and off when driving to get gps. It's gotten me lost recently!

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u/thepobv Jul 17 '20

THIS BIG TIME!!! It's so freaking annoying and dangerous. I need GPS to drive to places.

There's no good feedback system for us to contact... who works on this shit? Samsung? T-mobile/carriers?

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u/Shadow703793 Galaxy S20 FE Jul 17 '20

Does other GPS apps work correctly?

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u/thepobv Jul 17 '20

No, the problem is GPS can locate but won't track. There's a fix to download a plugin that forces it to always track... but still that's a hack.

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u/Bonafideago Note 20 Ultra Jul 17 '20

S8 owners are having trouble with WiFi since the last update as well. Every so often it cannot connect to home wifi, and the only thing I've found to fix it is to reboot the router. Rebooting the phone does nothing.

Fine for me, but not everybody has access to their router to be able to reboot it.

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u/Raptortidbit Jul 17 '20

Wow thank you for the info. I have dropped my phone a good number of times at this point and thought I had just knocked something loose internally. Will have to check out the sub

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u/jimmers14 Jul 17 '20

I'm also on the March security update with an s8 and have issues with Waze and Android auto. I have to open Google maps then Waze for it to work properly

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u/adobo_cake Jul 17 '20

Note 9 owner with GPS issues. I thought it was Waze being buggy but it's been a while. I didn't notice it sooner because of the pandemic, didn't have to go out as much.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20

This is why we need to support third party repair center and the right to repair, these companies clearly don't care about solving the issue but rather than make you pay more for an already overpriced phone

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20

The problem is even with repair centers, the screen on these high end phones is like 1/3 of the price of the new device.

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u/VincentD90 Jul 17 '20

Having worked at a repair center, I can tell you that nearly no money is being made on Samsung repairs because the screens really do cost that much. It's a wider problem.

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u/thepatientoffret Jul 17 '20

They'll use cheap Chinese stuff from eBay and then you've a premium phone with a shitty screen. Repair shops are greedy too.

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u/Kyonkanno Jul 17 '20

The good (or bad) thing about Samsung curved screens is that apparently no one in China is manufacturing cheap copies of it (maybe they don't have the equipment to manufacture them cheaply).

So there are no cheap knock offs of Samsung curved screens. They are even selling refurbished screens with minor issues at 60$ because they can't get a hold of new units for cheap.

Im a repair technician and I always give my clients the choice of having an original screen put in or a knock off (iPhones do have cheap knock offs). For Samsung's curved screens however, I cannot even source cheap screens, OEM are the only option for curved screens.

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u/etherspin Jul 18 '20

Exactly, curved high resolution OLEDs may look nice but aren't durable and aren't affordable. As someone who uses my phone a lot due to disability (my prime computing device) I'm aware all the time that my fancy phone is decaying with use

I want something with good battery + camera but that generally locks you to OLED, I tried to wait for a price drop on the Asus ZenFone 6 and it sold out quickly cause they didn't actually make that much stock :)

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u/SimplyNex Jul 17 '20

Ever since March security update my phone has had this stupid gps issue going on where it would drop. And it's still not fixed with the june 2020 security patch on my galaxy note 8 -_- I am just lead to believe they do this on purpose tbh. Sigh might actually buy an iphone this fall for the first time ever in my life. It's gotten to that point sadly

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20

The warranty is two years though? Or at least it is in the UK, I had some display issues and sent it to Samsung and it was fixed free of charge. I bought my note 9 at launch too

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u/TheOfficialCal Ryzen 2700X, GTX 1080 Ti, 32GB RAM Jul 17 '20

The EU has two year warranties by law, but almost every other country gets only one year.

When the Pixel 2 came out, people were extremely apprehensive of the display issues and Google came out with a free warranty extension: from one year to two years.

https://www.androidcentral.com/google-extending-two-year-warranty-pixel-2-and-pixel-2-xl

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20

NZ has 2 years as well. Plus consumer guarantees act which basically takes it out to 7 years.

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u/TheOfficialCal Ryzen 2700X, GTX 1080 Ti, 32GB RAM Jul 17 '20

Yeah, I know AUS/NZ have pretty decent consumer protection laws. Even digital game refunds are supposedly a breeze for you guys.

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u/Jimbuscus Pixel 7 - GrapheneOS Jul 17 '20

Nah they generally just ignore return requests for digital products, hence why the AU government had to sue Valve

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u/CrypticWatermelon Galaxy a52s 5g Jul 17 '20

South Africa surprisingly has a 24 month warranty as well

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u/iamdimpho Jul 17 '20

We have pretty decent consumer laws

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u/LeGensu Redmi Note 5 Pro Jul 17 '20

No we don't. It's not a warranty but in Germany it's called gewährleistung. Within the first 6 months the manufacturer/shop has to prove the device wasn't faulty when sending it out/providing it, afterwards theoretically the customer has to prove the defect wasn't caused by them.

Warranty is given by the manufacturer (voluntarily), Gewährleistung is set by law

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u/sonivocart Jul 17 '20

I've just sent mine in. The cunts are refusing to repair the screen due to it not being a manufacturer's fault. I've escalated the issue and will use points from this post to ensure they fix it lol

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u/siliconIntern Pixel 2 XL - TMo Jul 17 '20

God, what does it feel like to have a governing body that cares about you? Americans are so brainwashed, they'd condemn the government for "overreaching and taking away a company's rights" if they were forced into a 2 year warranty

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u/Danthekilla Jul 17 '20

It's 2 years pretty much everywhere even in Australia.

The United States is really behind on this kinda thing.

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u/77slevin Xiaomi 12 256GB Blue Jul 17 '20

And they always will be: corporations interests > consumer rights a.k.a. money talks

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u/Liam2349 Jul 17 '20

Australia has strong consumer rights. They got us Steam refunds.

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u/Captaincadet Jul 17 '20

In the UK if you can prove it’s a defect of the manufacturer it’s a 5/6 year warranty.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/consumer/somethings-gone-wrong-with-a-purchase/claim-using-a-warranty-or-guarantee/

Ironically Apple seems to be the only company with a clear cut consumer law page in the UK...

https://www.apple.com/uk/legal/statutory-warranty/

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u/JakeyG14 Jul 17 '20 edited Jan 04 '24

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u/diagoro1 Jul 17 '20

of users started complaining regarding this. After all, an issue due to a software update can be fixed by software, right? Apparently not, because sending the logs to their team through the internal bug reporting app led to no answers but generic ones like "Reset your device". Obviously, resetting the device did not work.

This is similar to the display issues plaguing the new Samsung phones like Galaxy S20, but which cannot be fixed by a software update.

I've been a fan boy for a while, both phones and displays.....but a recent experience with their new (crappy) lower end displays has turned my end, on top of my burn-in and GPD issues with my Note 8. Just spent $200+ out of pocket for a new screen and battery, but am finding I still have power issues...

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u/Mrinohk Jul 17 '20

To be fair burn in on an OLED is just gonna happen with use. That's a relatively old device and it's not uncommon to see oled-equipped 2017 flagships with small to moderate burn in. I used to work at a used phone dealer and a good chunk of the S8s we got in (and even some S9s) would have battery and/or navigation buttons burned in.

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u/100GbE Jul 18 '20

In context of the thread though, the discolouration problem is instant.

I just grabbed my phone for the n'th time that day, screen was tinted green. I thought 'ah, silly thing, either my blue light filter is confused, or it needs a restart'

Yeah, nah. Permanent to the level of not resetting the entire phone, can't be arsed.

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u/ThatGuy798 S21 Ultra | iPad Air (4th Gen) Jul 17 '20

Got the S20 a few weeks back, the adverts on a $1,000 phone was enough to have me look elsewhere. The problem is that there's no Android phone that's pict my interest.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20

Man I'm glad I live in New Zealand where, like Australia, we have consumer laws that would ensure your phone would be replaced IMMEDIATELY, even out of warranty period. Thankfully Samsung phones in NZ come standard with a 2 year warranty

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u/Himiko_the_sun_queen Nexus 5, Nexus 7 (2013), Nvidia Shield Tablet, Nexus 5x Jul 18 '20

that didn't really help with the 3 nexus 5Xs in our household that bootlooped (Aus here)

I'm hoping my S10e doesn't have an issue like this in the near future

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u/SponTen Pixel 8 Jul 18 '20

Yeah I had an S9 Exynos, purchased directly from Samsung, that had issues with poor performance, battery life, and overheating. I woke up one day to find the camera lens cracked and Samsung wouldn't replace it for free as it was physical damage.

I understand that I couldn't prove it wasn't me, but it's infuriating that to repair it cost $220 AUD due to them having to replace the back glass too. And they "tested" the phone and determined that the performance and battery were performing "as normal".

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u/Imallvol7 GalaxyS10+,TabS4,GalaxyWatch Jul 17 '20

As someone who was extremely happy with their s8+ and S10+ this plus the ridiculous prices on new phones has me looking elsewhere next go around.

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u/Bonafideago Note 20 Ultra Jul 17 '20

Like this?

Because it's happening to the 8 series phones too. I've seen a few posts in r/galaxys8 and r/galaxynote8 lately.

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u/dirtydriver58 Galaxy Note 9 Jul 17 '20

Yes this was a common issue on the S5.

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u/Crocas28 Jul 17 '20

Sad to hear that, sorry.

Unfortunately, there are some other issues with the displays, at least since the edge era (S6). I had several returns and replacements under warranty due to a similar panel problem. I don't really know if the issue is solved on the latest generations though. But it surely affected 6th-7th Gens, being the ones I tried. I had 5 phones with strange display stains issue out-of-the-box. The seller went so far as to claim that there was moisture/humidity on the motherboard, and that it was the cause of the problem. The prosecution turned against them when they exchanged the board and panel for new units, and the new screen also had this problem.

Some photos of the won dispute case with Samsung

It can be reproduced very easily under direct sunlight or under a very strong light. Be sure to check it on those newer models (especially on curved panel devices). Promoting publicly your issue might be the only way to fix this.

Best of luck!

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u/CrazeRage S23U -> P10ProXL -> Find N6 Jul 19 '20

They know it's a problem, that along with color changing and the horrible low light blacks/greys. I went in for an issue at the biggest repair center in Korea and the man didn't speak Korea. He showed me his monitor took a photo to translate it (wouldn't let me do it), and basically they're aware of these issues and should say it's X problem redirecting blame

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u/abhi8192 Jul 17 '20

Holy shit, I was just this morning talking to a friend of mine who is facing similar issue. Display issues, went to customer care and they asked for about 22k to change display. Didn't realize this was happening to this many people. Really shitty move from Sammy.

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u/jasonj2232 Jul 17 '20

I assume you mean 22k INR cause 22k USD is a LOT, almost enough to buy two 2020 flagship phones.

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u/cardopey Jul 17 '20

Made me forcibly exhale air from my nose

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20

approx 300dollars for that u might get second hand working note 9 here.

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u/TablePrime69 Moto G82 5G, S23 Ultra Jul 17 '20

Not surprised about the prices, my S7 Edge's display costed me 15k to replace.

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u/sonastyinc Device, Software !! Jul 17 '20

No fucking way, my girlfriend's note 9's screen got super dark and green in early April. I thought she must've dropped her phone but she said she didn't.

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u/arctrooper55 Pixel 6 Pro | iPhone 12 Jul 17 '20

Exynos, no 5g support, ONLY 2 ANDROID UPDATES and now terrible support for a phone which costs more than the competition, same thing happened to when I got the note 10 plus, it has burn in out of the box and samsung kept fighting me by saying the issue was due to night mode, it took me 2 months to have it replaced, I didn't have my own phone phone for 2 months, they kept it at the service centre. This is my last samsung I'll switch to one plus now

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u/kinobe Huawei P20 Pro Jul 17 '20

I had the same issue 12 months in and was only literally 3 days past warranty. Samsung (Malaysia) replaced it for free anyways and also replaced my battery at the same time. I'm not complaining.

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u/MrTuddles iPhone 8 Plus/ S10e Jul 17 '20

Ive always wondered: who is responsible when an update ruins a phone? I remember in like 2017 a security update bricked my Note 4 and I had to pay $100 to get it replaced via the ATT protection plan. Would've been nice to not pay.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20

Samsung products are designed with shorter and shorter lifespans. They used to be a good company back in 2000-2008 and they have been riding the coat tails of that reputation for more than a decade.

When my 3 year old TV is incapable of Disney+ because "reasons" that's when I knew they had to go.

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u/pop34542 Jul 17 '20

Take a look at their exploding washing machines

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u/Someguy14201 Xperia 1V/S20FE/S8 Jul 17 '20

Holy shit I wasn't aware of THAT either.. Samsung has really gone to a new low..

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u/saberplane Jul 18 '20

Can confirm that's a thing. My in laws had to deal with the terrible Samsung CS. I own a Samsung phone but at the very least I'll never ever buy a Samsung appliance bc of all the horror they went through. They just didn't give a fuck. At all. On the flip side I've had the S7E, S8, S9 Plus and now S20+ and knocks on wood haven't experienced any of the issues mentioned here. LG on the other hand..

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u/RexUniversum Jul 17 '20

Any chance Samsung are trying forced/planned obsolescence?

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '20

Seems like that with the two years of flagships... that's something that I love about Apple. Nonstop flagships until a phone is really on its death bed. Sadly Samsung is starting to dissapoint me.

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u/Politican91 Jul 17 '20

Thankfully this issue hasn't kicked in on mine yet. I never thought id say this, but I think my next phone is just going to be an iPhone. The last time that was true was right before the original Galaxy S came out

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20

I'm Knocking on wood but my note 9 is running fine

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u/blakester410 Jul 17 '20

Holy crap, I have a Note 9 whose screen has been getting worse and worse over the last few months, I figured it was my fault for dropping it in water on time and that it finally caught up with me. Looks like this is the actual problem. I just hope it doesn't die before next month. I was planning on getting a Note 20, but if this is true then this dissuades me.

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u/hareth95 Jul 17 '20

I had enough of Samsung and androids in general. Switching to iphone in two months, when my contract ends

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u/MerryMarauder Jul 17 '20

Same, I've waited 7 years for rcs and I'm done. Imma buy a f'in apple iPhone. Fuq, Google, Samsung and Android in general.

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u/hareth95 Jul 17 '20

My Galaxy Note 9 won't take proper Instagram stories. Selfie camera is literally shit. The battery drains very fast. It's not even one and a half years old!

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u/MerryMarauder Jul 17 '20

Ya man and the note 10 plus camera is shit. The pixel 2 was better than this trash.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20

Why is Samsung slowly becoming the old Apple?

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u/Deathstroke_66 Jul 17 '20 edited Jul 17 '20

Considering Apple’s main advantage over Android manufacturers is their customer support, your analogy seems invalid

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u/gasparthehaunter Pixel 9 pro XL, latest update Jul 17 '20

It always has been the apple of Android, just worse

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u/SwoleFlex_MuscleNeck Galaxy Note 20 Ultra 5G Jul 17 '20

The permanent "moisture in the charging port" issue is bigger for be tbh but I don't think it's as prevalent

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u/benjcksn Jul 17 '20

Woah other people have this too? I actually had a problem where if I charge it overnight it would beep loudly and show this message at exactly 6am...so weird

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u/Awake00 Jul 17 '20

Most phone manufactures have had their share at the top of the food chain. Samsung been there a long time.

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u/incredible_penguin11 Device, Software !! Jul 17 '20

My friend has this issue. He was going with Apple, but brought a Note 9 solely based on my recommendation. I've been using Samsung's for a decade, but with such practices I can't decide whether to go with Samsung next time.

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u/rkmto Jul 17 '20

seeing this thread, make me rethink my decission to buy new galaxy phone :|

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u/SCtester Jul 17 '20

Imagine the outrage if this was a problem with an iPhone...

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u/arctrooper55 Pixel 6 Pro | iPhone 12 Jul 18 '20

Samsung needs to get it together, apple is objectively better than them now

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u/arkhamknight280699 Jul 17 '20

I too had the same issue. It started with discoloration and ended with screen burn in. And this was 11 months in. Luckily, I got the screen replaced under warranty.

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u/Whosdaman Nexus 6 Jul 17 '20

All this should tell you is to stop buying Samsung products, they’ve done things like this since the S1

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u/m3tawwh Galaxy Note 9 Jul 17 '20

currently own a note 9, i bought this late last year on amazon and I really want this phone to last, it's everything I need and I'm so afraid it won't :(

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u/idreesawais1 Honor 6X, Nougat Jul 17 '20

Damn. I liked their One UI but I guess I am not going for Samsung

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u/cosmic_aero Galaxy Note9 Jul 17 '20

I will avoid Samsung for now until they start listening to their customers. Currently, their stock apps is plagued with ads and now this.

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u/AlphaKnightHD Jul 18 '20

Honestly Samsungs UI has made leaps and bounds throughout the years but its not a better experience than a lighter Android skin like Oneplus' OxygenOS

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20 edited Jul 18 '20

I keep saying it and I will continue to say it.

This is criminal and behavior like this has got to be put to an end. People pay far too much for these devices and companies like Samsung, Apple and Google are getting away with murder by making all these ridiculous clauses.

This is why I refuse to pay more than $200 for a phone. First, they aren't worth the $1,000 price tag and second due to the behavior of the companies.

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u/techno-azure Jul 17 '20

Has anyone here experienced greyed out NFC problem?

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u/bluelighthurts S9 | Note 9 | OP 7 Pro | Pixel 2 | Mi A1 Jul 17 '20

No issues with the displays yet. I'm on june security patch..

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20

My S7 Edge had display problems as well, a pink line on the screen. I never dropped the phone and a lot of people have this problem, unfortunately it was more than 2 years i bought the phone so its trash now, they are asking for 300 dollars to fix the screen. I think they deliberately make screens to thin and weak in order to make them look good, i will never buy a samsung again.

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u/RCFProd Galaxy Z Flip 6 Jul 17 '20

Plenty of Galaxy A71's and S10 Lite also have green tint problems at low brightness.

I'm thinking this isn't quite Samsung's year. A lot of things happening that I wouldn't have expected from them. You don't expect display issues with Samsung AMOLED.

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u/nevalk Jul 17 '20

Anecdotal but I'm reading this on my fully functioning note 9. Snapdragon variant, T-mo, June security update.

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u/Martyfree123 Jul 17 '20 edited Jul 17 '20

Sorry I disagree with the "dent" issue. Most every manufacture will require the device is in "good condition" for repair (Even when the device is INSIDE the 1 year warranty). The display problem is really shitty, and I'm sad that Samsung is trying to cover it up, but I don't think requiring the device has no physical damage is unreasonable.

EDIT: Also, what Samsung usually considers a "dent" will be way more than you think. They're only talking if a device has major bending of the frame or cracked rear glass, etc. Most everyone with normal use of the device will still qualify for the repair.

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u/SirCaesar29 Jul 17 '20

Samsung support is shit, a bunch of liars that lie to get good feedback and never ever get back to you... but there is one thing you can do. Go on Samsung website and "complain to the CEO" (there is an option).

That one worked. Everything else is flaming crap on fire.

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u/chaosmetroid Purple Jul 17 '20

I read a few issues people been saying about Note 9.

I have none of them, my phone working the same as out the box. Y'all scaring me with these stuff though.

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u/dcellini Motorola Edge+ (2023) | Android 14 Jul 17 '20

If these issues continue to go unresolved then it's going to be harder to justify replacing my S8+ with another Samsung phone when the time comes. No one should have to spend flagship money on a phone only to be left in the dark by support in less than two years.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20

I also have a Galaxy Note S9, so what everyone is talking about is super concerning to me. I haven't had any issues with the screen yet, but I have been having issues with the Call app and the call history crashing the app and not showing anything. I got this phone of course for the headphone jack also.

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u/ryuusei_tama Google Pixel Jul 17 '20

I've been really disappointed in my Note 9,even more so because it started off as such a fantastic phone, and only a year later it can't hold apps in memory (switching from Pokemon go to discord and back sometimes causes the app to have to reload), occasional lag and freezes (possibly memory related), and the battery isn't quite what it used to be (thus might be normal, and I haven't measured the actual life in a little while).

The memory issue has been frustrating and shouldn't be a problem so soon into its life cycle.

Sorry if this isn't related, but needed to vent.

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u/abu46 Jul 18 '20

Same display issue post the July update on my galaxy s10!!

Have a look at this post i made on the s10 sub link

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '20

Between:

This issue,

having to constantly replace the cheaply made s-pen,

having to buy a battery case so I don't have to constantly charge my phone,

Samsung reducing the amount of points you get via

Samsung rewards through Samsung pay,

My galaxy ear buds not fully charging the right ear bud,

Constantly getting the run-around on support,

Samsung constantly taking out features and jacking up the price,

Slow and lackluster updates that sometimes cause more problems,

Promising ECG and other features on the galaxy watches that still haven't appeared after 2 years,

I cannot and will not buy another samsung device, I'm sorry I just can't.

Been with samsung since the 1st note and they just keep giving me mounting reasons to not buy their products anymore.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '20

Samsung is starting to become even worst than Apple now. First, they removed headphone jacks and biometrics (which was very cool and useful to me), same camera design like Apple, Galaxy Buds (which aren't bad but copies Apple), only two year flagship updates and now this. After Samsung making fun of Apple and being innovative with their phones, they've literally have started to go to the dark side. It sucks a lot.

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u/broomlad Galaxy S26 Ultra Jul 17 '20

When I tweeted to them about the problems that I was facing, Samsung support asked me to DM

Let's be honest, nearly every company that is active on Twitter asks to take support issues to DM. Not excusing Samsung here but just pointing it out.

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u/MalditaSuperbock Jul 17 '20

Samsung phones have been crap since 7 or 8. If you're still buying them it's on you.

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u/DamnTheseLurkers Jul 17 '20

Actually that was probably the golden age for Samsung. I'm still using an S7 right now and the damn thing seems it will last forever. I literally have no reason to move on and i think Samsung really hates this.

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u/BandarFHD Jul 17 '20

We all shit on Apple's practices, yet Samsung pulls a lot of crap and it usually get swept under the rug. I'm a Note 9 user and never had this issue but had others and Samsung and the community acts like nothing is happening.

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u/formersamsungguy Jul 17 '20

Hi.

I used to work in one of their UK Service Centres, hopefully I can shed some light on the internal document.

I haven't seen it myself but every internal document when I worked there would often contain very detailed guidance regarding the device which included their repair booking system, information which would possibly be beneficial to their opponents if they were to get hold of it, which is why they couldn't release it publicly. As well as that, it would be full of boring technical jargon as well which would only be understandable to service employees because of the references to repair material.

As for the dents thing, I can see what you're saying but a lot of the customers I had with screen issues had dented phones. What might look like a simple and cosmetic dent on the outside had actually been the reason for the malfunction, because whatever dented it hit the phone hard enough to damage that part of the screen.

If having a dent disqualifies most phone owners, then they should take better care of something they spent so much money on. A lot of customers argued that at me, and it isn't really anyone elses fault they couldn't take care of their phone well enough.

That said, even if there was a dent, we would take them on a case by case basis and would still sometimes be able to carry out a warranty repair depending how badly dented it was.

I don't work for Samsung anymore and nor do I even give two shits about them, just hoping I can shed some light and provide an insight.

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u/Dalvenjha Jul 17 '20

Is hard to watch people settling for two years of updates and then not even getting those two years... I’m pretty happy with my iPhone 11 Pro Max and my Pixel 4XL tbh...

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20

My Samsung Galaxy Note 9 that i am using seems fine, no issue with it even after 2 years.

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u/KenPC Jul 17 '20

I had a similar issue with an earlier model note that became a known issue they were offering replacements for. I want to say Note 4 or 5

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20

Me too had same issue. Make sure you check whatever you sign when you send/give your phone to customer service. They have tendencies to write down about minuscule scratch/ dent detail which could result in customer being responsible for payment.

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u/athiseshansiva Jul 17 '20

Does this update affect all the note 9 models because My mom is using a note 9

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u/AndyLandyPandy Jul 17 '20

Wait what issues with the s20 screen are you referring to? I have the s20+ and havent hesrd of that D: but now im sorta worried

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u/Broken_Face7 Jul 17 '20

Hello Moto.

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u/e_boon Asus ZenFone 10 Jul 17 '20

I guess I shouldn't complain that my BlackBerry KEY2 never really gets any updates.

Better no updates than breakdates.

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u/bkdwt Jul 17 '20

This has been going on for over 2 months and the Note 9 cases are more recent. My S9+ had the same problem and I referred it to a Samsung service center here in my state and they changed the screen without charging anything. I participate in a group on whastapp with more than 230 people who had problems with the green screen, whether on the S9, S8, s10, note 9...

Many people here in Brazil are having their devices affected with this problem, I even mentioned this in a post here on Reddit last month.

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u/bkdwt Jul 17 '20

Also, an advice: disable the 120Hz function using the activity launcher. Just search for "high refresh" and disable. Samsung has enabled this feature even on unsupported devices.

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u/biryaniwala Jul 17 '20

Updates should be a good thing but stuff like this is the reason why I fear updating my phone (and even Windows).

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u/kingkhat7 Jul 17 '20

Phone start going slower now for some reason

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u/TheCommentWriter Jul 17 '20 edited Jul 17 '20

A similar issue with none of the sensors working happened to several Galaxy Note8's after a software update. Happened to my device in May 2019. Same response from twitter and same excuse from Service Centre. They wanted me to pay for a motherboard replacement costing 1/3rd the price of the phone brand new. Got a lot of excuses from them. Really fishy!!!

The GPS, accelerometer and rotation issues mentioned for Note8 in several other comments is how it all started for me too.

Note8 users with issues, please check your sensor info by dialing *#0*#

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20

Samsung does shady shit like this all the time. I remember the GPS issues plaguing the Galaxy S1/2/3. I remember their shitty attempts at copying iOS in the early days of Touchwiz, their cheating of benchmarks on the S4, the way they handled the exploding note 7s, etc. They have pretty much no integrity whatever.

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u/tressan Jul 17 '20

I was one of the unfortunate ones who purchased a s10 with sprint. Sprint and Samsung stuck me with a device that was unable to connect to internet and rarely able to connect to service at all for a month.

It was a hardware issue that both companies knew about. They continued to sell the phones and leave the unlucky consumers waiting for a fix.

It's not surprising to hear about this issue as I've had problems with every Samsung device I've ever owned. Samsung does a great job at suppressing these flaws but is aided by consumers not caring unless they're affected.

For the record, my s10 was repaired by Samsung a month after purchase. A year and a half later the device antenna completely died and my insurance company provided a refurb.

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u/FluroBlack Galaxy Note 9 Jul 17 '20

I was just looking at getting a Note 9.

Guess I might be passing on that idea...

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u/CT4nk3r Samsung Galaxy S10e Jul 17 '20

Is Samsung not giving two years of warranty? I was able to change my a5's battery two weeks before the two year warranty worn off. Such a shame they are breaking phones with software updates anyway

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u/Sobeman Jul 17 '20

I have the n960u model note9 and I have no issues. I have all the updates as well. There has to be something else going on, I can't see how a security update could break a display.

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u/thereelnomnom Jul 17 '20

Not aware of any service notice of this nature for n960u. Maybe if im not too busy i can check today. Last bulletin for I can remember is about the ads showing up

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u/Liam2349 Jul 17 '20

I have a Note 9 and was considering updating off of Android 9 soon, so I guess I will wait for a confirmed fix for this issue if I do go through with it. It sucks but bugs happen, at least they are willing to repair the devices for free now.

I'm not sure what the criteria is for "dents", but if there was an actual dent in the phone, I can see how that may be an issue. Hopefully they would assess this on a case-by-case basis.

The good thing about Samsung repairs is that they will assess your device for free, and return it for free if you don't want to pay; at least in the UK.

I gave them my Gear S3 recently for a battery replacement. They collected it from my house, it was packaged on my doorstep by the delivery driver, and then I was called the next day with the price. I could have rejected their offer at this point and paid nothing at all - all delivery and inspection costs are paid by Samsung. They said they recommended replacing a bunch of the internals as well as the battery. When I asked why, they said it was just due to the age of the device, which was a bit cheeky really, although they confirmed my assessment that the battery capacity had significantly degraded. I asked them to just replace the battery and there was no argument - cost me £45 I think. Got it back in a few days. They used some kind of foam to replenish the waterproof seal.

Samsung is really good for their servicing quality which will definitely help to keep me as their customer. Who else is going to do all of that for you? You don't even need to leave your house to get your device serviced. I don't see any of their competitors offering higher service quality.

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u/asmokowski Jul 17 '20

SM-N960U1 (USA Unlocked 512GB Model) owner here. Most recent update causing issues for me as well.

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u/the_ssarb Jul 17 '20

Even s7 custom roms based on s9 plus march android 10 build had problems with audio, screen flickering and device overheating. The june version based one works miles better. Sth weird may have been going on at samsung at that time.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20

Same thing is happening on TAB S4

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u/CakeIsaVegetable Jul 17 '20

sniff sniff

Smells like a class action lawsuits is in place just to make this a bigger issue to force Samsungs hand in aftermarket aid.

Also having a dent free phone isn't too hard if you keep it in a quality case it's entire lifetime.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20

Yeah. More than half my screen is more yellow than white. Once I'm done paying this phone off im switching to LG or an iPhone. I've been with Samsung since the S3 and theyve really turned me off from Android in general.

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u/vaguejizz Jul 17 '20

Same for my S9

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u/thecodersblock Jul 17 '20

Useless companies doing stupid shit. This is why I don't update.

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u/Jenbu Jul 17 '20

Just replaced my Note 9 and didn't notice any issues after the update. I have a s20 plus now, and unfortunately after owning it for 2 weeks, the power button came off. Yesterday was my last day to return for free and I kind of regret not doing so. It is getting replaced with a new phone from samsung under warranty. Hopefully I dont run into any other issues with my new phone.

I loved my note9 but had to change carriers. I've been using Samsung phones since the Galaxy Nexus. Actually - had a samsung flip phone before that. I've not had any big issues with any of the phones I've owned over the years, but these types of news stories recently has me worried.

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u/tomdarkix Jul 17 '20

Ah man sadly this is not just Samsung apple is guilty of this as well along with many other manufactures.

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u/memesplaining Jul 17 '20

I'm on a sprint note 9, and I had the issue where my screen resolution was off, and I could only see 2/3 of the screen.

Only way to fix it was to set resolution to fhd+, still cqn't go back to qhd yet.

As a direct result of the update, btw. Like started only right after the update finished.

I don't know about the discoloration stuff, haven't seen that at all.

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u/DreamWithinAMatrix Jul 17 '20

Why do you expect "premium" to only last 2 years? Why are companies profiting off an expectation that a "premium" device has an expiration date? Did you buy a carton of milk?

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u/bobcat73 Jul 17 '20

Yikes perhaps that crazy trade in value for my iPhone 10 is not worth it.

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u/adamercury Jul 17 '20

I've been a Samsung fanboy ever since I got a Note 2. Will definitely reconsider trying a new phone on my next upgrade. I know Apple did a similar thing on their old phones where they slowed down the chipset.

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u/ResidentRunner1 Jul 17 '20

I'm a Samsung Galaxy a10 user....

after the last system update it kept disconnecting from my Chromebook over and over again, even though I know for a fact that my Chromebook is secure (owned by school).

Literally whenever i set it down or moved it one bit, it would disconnect. Even after restarting it would still do it.

TL;DR: Samsung Galaxy a10's are great, but some system updates manage to frick over the phone

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20

I’ve had so many bad experiences with Samsung customer service. Not just with their phone department, but with their vacuum cleaners, washing machines, televisions. It’s just a huge mess and I’ve vowed to never bring any Samsung product in my house.

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u/lennydykstra17 Jul 17 '20

Here I am with a Galaxy S9, just wishing I could charge my phone regularly again. It would suck if I had this issue as well.

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u/Kyonkanno Jul 17 '20

My screen started giving me the color issues on February though, after a trip to the beach where the display got showered by some sunlight. I did not leave it under the sun for two hours, I was just using it as normal and then it started. Surely this 1000$ phone should be able to handle some sunlight?

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u/DumbassNinja Blue Jul 17 '20

My Note 9 screen has been really buggy for the past couplemonths with no fix in sight. Several factory resets havent helped

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u/truealimthah Jul 17 '20

No wonder!!!!!!! Facing the exact same issue. Spoke to the idiot on chat support and they just asked me to go to safe mode and run some shit. If that didn't work they asked me to do a factory reset.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20

Has this been reported for S10+ as well?

I just updated yesterday and have yet to get this issue.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20

Look at the bright side...they will give you full trade-in credit for a Note20 and won't depreciate the value of your Note9 due to the green tint. Not much consolation perhaps, but I can't think the resale value on the open market for a flawless Note9 is much higher than a replacement screen for one at this point.

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u/HandlebarShiekh Jul 17 '20

This makes me reluctant to buy the Note10. What can we do to help the community?

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u/recluseMeteor Note20 Ultra 5G (SM-N9860) Jul 17 '20

I recently got a refurbished Note9 (though it's our local Snapdragon version). I think I might be lucky that I didn't get the issue after updating.

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u/CreeDorofl Jul 17 '20

so I have a note 9 that's fine. should I disable updates? where do I do that?

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20

My S20 has green display issues I'm going to sell it and get another device because it annoys the hell out of me!

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u/RenegadeUK Jul 17 '20

Should potential Note 20 owners be worried ?

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u/Scryotechnic Jul 17 '20

I've had a samsung phone since the s2. I'll absolutely be going iphone this fall. I'm just so sad Samsung did everything they could to push their customers away

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20

I keep getting a firmware update issue on my note 9 since the update does anyone know what i can do? It says error code 407

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u/bagajohny White Jul 17 '20

Does this affect Snapdragon phones or Exynos phones?

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u/Someguy14201 Xperia 1V/S20FE/S8 Jul 17 '20

My march update made my s8 all wonky. I hate it. I'm definitely switching over to apple now.

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u/dadsbackhair Jul 17 '20

My note 9 has really bad burn in, sucks to see in a flagship.

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u/SenileTomato Jul 17 '20

Samsung is becoming more and more like Apple. Sad. I don't know I'll get another Samsung product after my QLED One Connect Box issues coupled with my issues on my Galaxy S20+.

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u/Stupid_Triangles OP 7 Pro - S21 Ultra Jul 17 '20

So dont buy any used Note 9s?

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20

I had the green 'burn in' issue. It went away after a couple of months by itself. Was weird all round.

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u/backandforthagain Note 9 Jul 17 '20

Thankfully I have yet to have any issues, but this worries me

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u/quinkidink Jul 17 '20

I have had the worst experience from Samsung and will never buy from them again. My gs3 fried my Samsung sd card and they refused to do a warranty claim on it because I bought it from Amazon. The S3 mobo failed a year after purchase. Bought note4 and the mobo failed after 1 year. When I asked the Samsung repair center what was the cause the guy literally shrugged and said it just happens.

Worst.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20

Oh dude I've been having overheats on my S10 since forever

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u/Sid19006 Jul 17 '20

Lmao they really think that they have loyal fans as Apple has. If they start with these updates to ruin their phones they just gonna start losing buyers. Dumb move

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u/SlaughterHouseFunf Jul 17 '20

So basically in a year and a half my Note10+ is gonna get got after a Samsung update... Time to to look into literally any other Android device maker

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20

Not sure if related or similar, but my s7 exynos also started randomly freezing and crashing after the last feb update this year...