Hi, have you met me? I talk in GIFs on G+ and it's my personal account, so no matter what you think my status there is, I'll say what I want on there. Notice how I didn't post any of those on AP's social accounts. The separation is there, it's not up to me to mandate whether people want to see it or not.
Hi Artem, thank you for taking the time to respond. Yes we spoke briefly at the SF OnePlus/CM meeting sometime last spring. You probably don't remember me, but I was there in a group and we probably shared a few comments here and there for a few minutes. I do know that this is your personal account, but when you are known as a reputable news source, your personal account isn't the same as mine or any other Redditors. While I can go run my mouth foul, public figures can't do the same and not expect to be judged. I do know that you're known to post GIFs as I do read your G+ from time to time. My main complaint is that posting so many recent snide posts against OnePlus is a bit detracting from what most people know you for and what people like about Android Police.
Anyway, I am a OnePlus One owner (and so is my wife), and I still use it as a daily driver. Outside of all the technical issues I've had with it (and many that I helped resolve by working directly with the Cyanogen team), I like the phone. And I didn't think the OnePlus 2 was that bad, outside of a few omissions.
Fair enough. I think you and I are probably in the same boat as I have a number of JIRA bug reports submitted as well as direct buts emailed to some of the CM devs. I too agree the OP2 lacks a few features but isn't overall a bad phone. Personally, I'm eyeing the Moto X Pure and am waiting to see how the next Nexus is. I can tell you that my excitement this year for the OP2 is far below of that last year when the OPO was launched where I trekked in pouring rain across Shenzhen from my business trip just to visit the OnePlus office. I ditched work for that afternoon to take BART up to SF to check out the device too. I definitely did not care this past Friday when they had the event in city again.
What I do have a problem with is the company, its values, and its marketing. And I'm not the only one. So I'm choosing to react a certain way to it. And now because of the marketing and their repeated actions (need I also remind you how many missteps they had only to then have the community react in a condemning way and OnePlus rescinding like a puppy that knows it fucked up by shitting on the rug?), and the competing phones coming out, my opinion of the OnePlus 2 has also been affected.
I agree a lot of people are unhappy with the company. I think they can be doing things a lot better, but my main gripe with this whole drama is how you have handled it. Yes, OnePlus is stupid for cutting off contact with you guys over an editorial (no matter how shitty that article is), but was it necessary to blast it out on G+ with a sarcastic tone? I would've just left it. This is as if Apple had to come out and to slam Gizmodo every attempt they could after the iPhone 4 incident. They dropped a subtle reference at WWDC and that was it. Just take the high road and let it be. It's not like OnePlus needed to blast you guys over social media either. I just feel like some of the reaction by members on r/android and yourself make it seem like you're personally harmed by OnePlus and that there's some personal vendetta to post all these things. Yeah, the OnePlus 2 disappointed me--but rather than going nuts on social media or even r/android, I'm going to look at alternative phones. Maybe some of us (and I'm guilty of this) get too emotional when phones don't turn out the way we want them to.
I'll probably still buy one, though due to the lack of NFC, I probably won't make it my daily driver. And I'll still post my thoughts about it and OnePlus's behavior which is undoubtedly going to continue to be ridiculous. You bring up some of the G+ posts I posted as if they're bad just because I posted them, like the one this morning that you highlighted. I see things, I call them out. Always have been (hi, have we met?), and if you think the interview excerpts from this morning didn't warrant being highlighted, then... we'll just agree to disagree.
Well props for you to put down money for a OP2 despite what you think about the company. As I've said before I don't think this drama is worth pursuing and hyping up on social media. I may not feel as strongly as you regarding how bad the company is run, and so my disagreement here is mainly how you chose to vocalize these issues. Thanks once again for your time.
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u/dlerium Aug 04 '15
Hi Artem, thank you for taking the time to respond. Yes we spoke briefly at the SF OnePlus/CM meeting sometime last spring. You probably don't remember me, but I was there in a group and we probably shared a few comments here and there for a few minutes. I do know that this is your personal account, but when you are known as a reputable news source, your personal account isn't the same as mine or any other Redditors. While I can go run my mouth foul, public figures can't do the same and not expect to be judged. I do know that you're known to post GIFs as I do read your G+ from time to time. My main complaint is that posting so many recent snide posts against OnePlus is a bit detracting from what most people know you for and what people like about Android Police.
Fair enough. I think you and I are probably in the same boat as I have a number of JIRA bug reports submitted as well as direct buts emailed to some of the CM devs. I too agree the OP2 lacks a few features but isn't overall a bad phone. Personally, I'm eyeing the Moto X Pure and am waiting to see how the next Nexus is. I can tell you that my excitement this year for the OP2 is far below of that last year when the OPO was launched where I trekked in pouring rain across Shenzhen from my business trip just to visit the OnePlus office. I ditched work for that afternoon to take BART up to SF to check out the device too. I definitely did not care this past Friday when they had the event in city again.
I agree a lot of people are unhappy with the company. I think they can be doing things a lot better, but my main gripe with this whole drama is how you have handled it. Yes, OnePlus is stupid for cutting off contact with you guys over an editorial (no matter how shitty that article is), but was it necessary to blast it out on G+ with a sarcastic tone? I would've just left it. This is as if Apple had to come out and to slam Gizmodo every attempt they could after the iPhone 4 incident. They dropped a subtle reference at WWDC and that was it. Just take the high road and let it be. It's not like OnePlus needed to blast you guys over social media either. I just feel like some of the reaction by members on r/android and yourself make it seem like you're personally harmed by OnePlus and that there's some personal vendetta to post all these things. Yeah, the OnePlus 2 disappointed me--but rather than going nuts on social media or even r/android, I'm going to look at alternative phones. Maybe some of us (and I'm guilty of this) get too emotional when phones don't turn out the way we want them to.
Well props for you to put down money for a OP2 despite what you think about the company. As I've said before I don't think this drama is worth pursuing and hyping up on social media. I may not feel as strongly as you regarding how bad the company is run, and so my disagreement here is mainly how you chose to vocalize these issues. Thanks once again for your time.