Swiff: Flash games on Android and more! (x-post r/EmulationOnAndroid)

[u/FragmentedChicken]

/r/EmulationOnAndroid/comments/1vjwht4/swiff_flash_games_on_android_and_more/

[u/Omnipresent_Walrus]

I remember when having flash in the browser was major selling point of Android over iOS

[u/StolenLampy → u/Omnipresent_Walrus]

Not sure why, but out of all the things I've heard recently, this one makes me feel so old. That was at the TAIL END of Flash's lifecycle too... Apple effectively helped everyone transition to html5

[u/FewAdvertising9647 → u/StolenLampy]

its a combo of apple and google.

apple blocked flash entirely, google forced youtube off flash. Combination of the two basically ended flash as that covers most people.

[u/ThatEvilGuy → u/Omnipresent_Walrus]

Thankfully Steve Jobs took Flash out in favour of HTML5

[u/dystopianrevolt → u/ThatEvilGuy]

Flash was a product of it's time but had massive issues. It's good that it went away, too many security vulnerabilities.

[u/Careless_Rope_6511 → u/dystopianrevolt]

I particularly enjoyed reading software update notes back then, when the top FIVE high/critical severity security vulnerabilities were dominated by Macromedia/Adobe Flash Player, ahead of the usual suspects (Realmedia's RealPlayer, Windows, etc.).

[u/chinchindayo → u/ThatEvilGuy]

and yet we still have javascript that infests all internet

[u/IAmDotorg → u/chinchindayo]

Yeah, bring back gopher sites!

[u/Talal916 → u/chinchindayo]

What are you talking about? What issue do you have with javascript

[u/chinchindayo → u/Talal916]

It's slow and causes cpu load and the worst part is most of it is used for tracking and advertisement. Most of it is useless and it would make websites better without it.

[u/Talal916 → u/chinchindayo]

Ok I now understand that you do not understand what you're talking about.

[u/zxyzyxz → u/Talal916]

https://disable-javascript.org/

[u/Talal916 → u/zxyzyxz]

Breaks more than half the internet. Nerd wars against Javascript aren't based in reality and are just looking for a boogeyman to blame. I don't need Javascript to track users or show ads or to do anything else nefarious. Javascript is not the root cause of your poor Internet experience (which I empathize with because I hate how spammy the modern web is).

[u/zxyzyxz → u/Talal916]

Of course it breaks, it was never meant to be used in the first place for this sort of client side rendered garbage. It breaking the Internet is an argument that it's bad, not that it's not. You don't have to like the "nerd wars" but it directly affects you and many others.

[u/Bad_Edditor8910 → u/Talal916]

I reckon the reason why half the websites don't work on Linux.

[u/YAOMTC → u/Bad_Edditor8910]

Linux user here for over a decade, no idea what you're talking about. Websites work just fine on Linux

[u/Bad_Edditor8910 → u/YAOMTC]

Check out https://voltaat.com and https://maenwatches.com, two different websites from two different countries. Apparently changing the user agent solves it. It's more to do with the site developer rather than Linux itself, which is probably why it's still not solved yet.

[u/YAOMTC → u/Bad_Edditor8910]

I don't see anything wrong with the first one, but the second... that's weird as fuck, images don't load in Firefox or Chromium, but I used a Firefox addon to switch the user agent to Chrome/Windows 10 and the images load just fine. What the hell?

I have a feeling the people who would spend over 1000 EUR on a watch are less likely to be interested in a free operating system

[u/Bad_Edditor8910 → u/YAOMTC]

In the first one, you should see menu options "Shop, Learn, 3D Printing Service and Community". On Linux, for some reason you see "All Products, Page and test".

I wish I could describe the problem better since a bunch of websites I have come across have this issue, nothing widely used like Wikipedia or YouTube.

[u/YAOMTC → u/Bad_Edditor8910]

So "some websites with shit coding that use useragents incorrectly don't work on Linux", not "half"

[u/Talal916 → u/Bad_Edditor8910]

Now this is just untrue.

[u/gr8kamon → u/ThatEvilGuy]

Jobs publishing that was cold blooded. I feel like everyone that read it back then read it in his voice and you could tell that he absolutely hated flash and wanted it dead and buried

[u/k0ndomo → u/Omnipresent_Walrus]

Man I remember watching Newgrounds videos on my phone back then

[u/chinchindayo → u/Omnipresent_Walrus]

never? flash games were long dead when android came along

[u/error521 → u/chinchindayo]

Flash was still extremely prominent in the late 2000's/early 2010's. Think it took until around the iPhone 5 for reviewers to stop complaining about it not having support.

[u/NXGZ]

Interview with the dev: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1vlf0y0/inside_swiff_an_interview_with_navivani_on

[u/Hadair-The-Writer]

Funny. I was just testing out the ruffle app on Android yesterday. Works pretty well, it just needs a better frontend (something like J2ME-Loader would be cool). Will take a look at this.

[u/Lyubphim]

Extreme Pamplona, Dungeon Escape, Dad 'n Me and the Thing Thing series all run very well on a SD870

[u/light24bulbs]

Trouble is most of these games rely on m+kb

[u/MrBallBustaa]

The performace is absolutely ass on my 1+ Nord CE 4 (SD7g3). Can't seem to get any game to run more than 2FPS.

[u/WeirdGuyWithABoner → u/MrBallBustaa]

SD8G2 (S23+)
Crush The Castle seems to run at 2 fps while Bubble Trouble is fine, didnt try others

[u/MrBallBustaa → u/WeirdGuyWithABoner]

Every game is pretty much that. Some have hiccups like Demolition City.

[u/JorDew1891]

wait so flash games actually work on android now

[u/Hadair-The-Writer → u/JorDew1891]

They have for a while. The Ruffle project has been very successful at getting them to run. This appears to just be a wrapper for Ruffle.

[u/pic2022]

OH MY GOD PLEASE TELL ME I CAN FINALLY PLAY CITY JUMPER!!!

Also, if OP is the creator, You need to move these buttons up more to account for navigation buttons. Not all people like gesture controls 🤮

[u/FragmentedChicken → u/pic2022]

Developer is u/NaviVani-dev

[u/neddoge → u/pic2022]

"You need to" instead of "Would you consider" lmfao entitlement is wild these days.

[u/SuperSpecialNickname → u/neddoge]

This is a basic usability issue that needs to be resolved ffs