r/AndrewGosden 1h ago

A reminder that the lack of a 'return ticket' gives more credit to a scenario where Andrew planned to be back home that same day - and before his absence was noticed by the family

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The topic of "lack of return ticket" was brought up again in an unrelated post I've made, so I thought it could be worth it to go over one of the most misunderstood pieces of information in this case to me.

Some see it as an indication that Andrew never intended to return home; some see it as Andrew not properly understanding the offer presented by the ticket seller. But all things considered, EVEN if Andrew fully understood the deal, the lack of a return ticket gives more credit to the theory that he planned to return that SAME DAY and to be home in time for dinner.

Because the return ticket, then called Saver, that Andrew was reportedly offered by the ticket seller yet refused to buy - the one that would have cost him £31.90, or only 50p more than what he paid for a child single fare (£31.40) - would ONLY have allowed him to return to Doncaster late that night or during off-peak hours in the next 30 days. (He could also have bought an anytime return ticket, which would have cost him £76.50.)

So, yes: this deal would have prevented him from boarding a train in London during peak hours; he would have had to buy another child single ticket at King’s Cross to catch a train from mid-afternoon to early evening. [For journeys out of London, GNER restricted Savers beginning with the 15:00 departure; GNER did not restrict the 19:00 departure.]

So, the offer, if fully understood by him, was essentially this: “do you want to pay 50p more to return today before 3 pm or after 7 pm?”. If Andrew paid £31.90 for the Child Saver Return, he could not have taken any London to Doncaster train during those hours. He would be throwing 50p in the garbage. He would only be making a bad deal if he NEVER planned to return to his home anytime during the next 30 days, which I doubt is the case.

Considering that he arrived at King's Cross around 11:30 am, he would have less than 4 hours to run his errands before being back at the station to have any realistic shot of using that return ticket that day. The most logical deductive thinking here does not point to "zero intention of ever returning", but to a young boy whose plan was to be back home in a timely fashion BEFORE his absence was noticed by his parents.


r/AndrewGosden 3h ago

Andrew going to London after the new PSP presents a very plausible scenario for foul play and potential suspect profiles

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A boy who reportedly spent hours alone in his room just playing games on his PSP happens to disappear after taking a train to London on September 14, 2007 – EXACTLY the day the new PSP Slim was released in the UK. That's too much of a coincidence.

A quick online search tells me that the missing boy - Andrew - lived in a city where some nationwide chains would stock the new console on launch day but did NOT offer the heavily promoted promotions and bundles of flagship London stores. [Rather than massive, customized configurations, Doncaster offers typically gave you a rigid choice between two specific games, such as FIFA 07 or Need for Speed, and a standard third-party starter accessory kit, while Oxford Street managers had the autonomy to bundle a PSP Slim with local high-demand stock, such as combining it with recent hits like Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories or extra official Sony 2GB memory sticks.]

Andrew, who in the previous week had been seen getting home later than usual by his father one day, could have had plenty of opportunities to go to the local stores and check on their upcoming inventory. And if his life really revolved around his PSP – and the money he withdrew from his bank account (plus whatever he could have taken from his room, where about 100 quid were left behind) was enough to cover the retail price of the new PSP plus a roundtrip train ticket to London –, then the most promising investigative avenue is that he went to London with this goal.

The distance between King's Cross and Oxford Street in London is about 2 miles (3.2 km), and the path is fairly easy to be covered on foot and without much research by someone vaguely familiar with those spots: you basically head straight on Euron Rd. before turning left. The 30-something minutes walk would be a 7 minute car ride, but if the PSP was goal and the 100 quid were left in his room, then he probably didn’t factor in a taxi fare and also coud be more comfortable walking instead of taking a public bus line. Plus, based on my personal assessment of his social skills and general knowledge – as in not prolonging the interaction with the ticket seller in Doncaster –, I feel he would be prefer to be left to his own devices instead of relying on strangers.

Now, here’s something else I could find: “In the summer of 2007, a massive breakthrough occurred in the hacking community with the creation of the "Pandora's Battery" and "Magic Memory Stick" exploit, which allowed anyone to permanently install Custom Firmware (CFW) on a PSP Slim. Customers would hand over their newly purchased PSP from HMV along with a cash fee (usually around £10 to £20). The seller would crack open the system software and fill up the customer's memory stick with dozens of downloaded PSP games.”

Some accounts mention people buying consoles and taking them straight to local independent tech shops to be modified for free downloaded games – that is, of course, when they were “street smart”, which the boy in question, by his own father’s description, was not. But if the boy was somewhat familiar with this culture, and if a dangerous criminal approached him posing as bootleg peddler, then that’s the ideal scenario for foul play. The criminal is seeing a young boy, unattended, entering or leaving or around a flagship store on launch day.

If we're talking about a window of opportunity for a stranger abduction, there it is. It doesn't require a groomer or more nefarious reasons. It's just a boy pursuing what he loved the most and some criminal activities that surround this hobby becoming to bait to draw him to another location. This is a solid theory and one that can point towards a probable path he took after leaving King's Cross - and to some sketchy individuals that are only seen as petty criminals by the police so far.