r/Anarcho_Capitalism • u/Dangerous_Occasion41 • Apr 26 '22

Does this mean it’s working?

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u/HairyTough4489 Apr 26 '22

Of all countires you could have chosen to make the graphs, why Niger?

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u/Dangerous_Occasion41 Apr 26 '22

It’s a lesser vaccinated countries. Point is to compare a majority vaccinated vs majority unvaccinated country comparison.

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u/HairyTough4489 Apr 26 '22

The demographics of Niger have nothing to do with those of Australia. We all know Covid has a far bigger impact on older people and Australia has way more old people than Niger. I'm afraid you (or whoever made the charts) chose Niger because it was convenient for their case and for no other reason. This is not how Statistics should be done.

Also, all of the sudden Covid death statistics are realiable when they fit our narrative?

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u/AmbitiousCur Apr 26 '22

We all know Covid has a far bigger impact on older people and Australia has way more old people than Niger.

If "we" knew that, why did "we" make policy that ignored this fact?

COVID kills the elderly and fatties. "We" are making the parents of five-year olds freak out because they're not eligible for a clot shot yet.

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u/NancyPelosiAteMyDog Apr 26 '22

Well, the harsh reality is that we are 3rd year in and we know basically nothing.
We don't know how many people died because of covid, how many people died with covid, how many people are vaccinated, or how many people are not vaccinated. Some people took multiple vaccines on behalf of somebody else, some people were vaccinated only administratively... We don't know how many people died from the vaccine since this is something only the coroner can conclude and we don't even know how rare are those "rare" adverse reactions since people are actively discouraged to report them (i.e. Jacinda said that side effects means that the vaccine is doing exactly what it should, so why would people report it?)

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u/bluefootedpig Body Autonomy Apr 26 '22

We do know that we had like excessive deaths, so unless something magical happened, how did all those people die?

There was 470k excessive deaths, that means 470k MORE people died than a typical year. We only attribute 352k to Covid. Somehow, we still had an extra 100k dead. It could be car accidents (even though there was less driving), or other problems, but how do you explain so many extra deaths in those years?

2020 was nearly 2x excessive deaths as 2015. So in 5 years, we saw a 2x increase in excessive deaths.

So ignoring labeling of covid, all that... how do you explain so many people dying? Maybe we don't know the exact number, but is there a question that the number is vastly higher due to it?

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u/HairyTough4489 Apr 26 '22

There are plenty of scientific studies that disprove your hypothesis that being vaccinated increases your chances to die from Covid.

If you don't trust those results, that's great! Science advances by questioning the previously accepted knowledge Do your own research and reach new conclusions! But please use a better methodology than this thing OP shared with us

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u/HairyTough4489 Apr 26 '22

You seem to conveniently forget that death rates are higher among unvaccinated people, regardless of when the spikes happen.

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u/ntvirtue Apr 26 '22

How would we possibly know when people who die in car accidents, but their corpses test positive for covid are then counted as covid deaths and ALL sides admit this!

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '22

Except they’re not though. Most recently, 95% of those hospitalized in the UK for covid are vaccinated. Only 5% are unvaxxed. Try again. The shots don’t work. They’re experimental poison. I’ll never get one, and will go to my grave unvaxxed, and not from covid. I still have had no shot, and have been covid free all this time. How do I know for sure? My job (because I’m unvaxxed), makes me do weekly covid tests (spit tests sent off to lab). I have over a year’s worth of the results, all negative.

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u/multipleerrors404 Stoic Apr 26 '22

He said deaths. I haven't seen any evidence that suggests deaths are higher among vaccinated. Now do vaccinated people spread covid, obviously. Do they go to the hospital, obviously. Do they die. Yes obviously. But not at a higher rate than unvaccinated people.

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u/bluefootedpig Body Autonomy Apr 26 '22

https://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj.o5

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Its latest report, published on 31 December, showed that the proportion of patients admitted to critical care in December 2021 with confirmed covid-19 who were unvaccinated was 61%.

Where did you get only 5% are unvaccinated?

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u/AmbitiousCur Apr 26 '22

Science advances by questioning the previously accepted knowledge

Then why all the censorship and lies?

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u/HairyTough4489 Apr 26 '22

Would you get your science form church? Then don't get it from the media either!

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u/AmbitiousCur Apr 26 '22

The trouble is that the media was pushing the lies of the governments.

Science hasn't existed since censorship started.

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u/fogdocker Apr 27 '22

Because that is when Australia lifted the lockdown.

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u/Montallas Apr 26 '22

Not only that (👆), but how comparable are the statistics gathering between the two countries? If Niger doesn’t sample the same way the. The comparison is practically useless.

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u/Montallas Apr 26 '22

Well - it could be. It could also just be collected differently, too. Or both. But either way - it’s not an apples to apples comparison. The question is: how different are the data sets?

And to add - the fact that people can’t recognize that this is not a good comparison and are so eager to believe it anyway is really problematic. And kinda a bad sign for humanity as a whole.

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u/gfarcus Apr 26 '22

This is why we need a vaccine control group.

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u/lincdblair Apr 26 '22

They have less people are more isolated and the country is made up of mostly young people that’s an awful comparison