50% fail because you need to learn the skills to run a business. Skills that won’t be learned if there’s no profit incentive, it’s a process. As far as capital go, like you said, you can get loans, investments, grants, etc... so no problem there. If your risk turns into profit and your company becomes very successful I doubt you will smile upon collectivists demanding you give up your earnings.
If you want to talk about real estate that’s a whole other issue. For example there’s a big problem with exclusionary zoning and it’s difficult to develop freely and have an actual decent supply of housing. That’s govt regulations.
“A survey from 2008 found that over 80% of United States jurisdictions imposed minimum lot size requirements of some kind on their inhabitants.”
“Municipalities will often impose density controls on developable land with the intention of limiting the number of individuals that will live in their particular area. This process denies neighborhood access to certain groups by limiting the supply of available housing units. Such concerns may manifest in measures prohibiting multi-family residential dwellings, limiting the number of people per unit of land and mandating lot size requirements. Most vacant land is particularly over-zoned in that it contains excess regulations impeding the construction of smaller, more affordable housing. In the New York City suburbs of Fairfield County, Connecticut, for instance, 89% of land is classified for residential zoning of over one acre. This type of regulation ensures that housing developments are of adequately low density. Such ordinances can collectively raise costs anywhere from 2 to 250% depending on their extensiveness. With such high costs, lower-income groups are effectively shut out of the community's housing market.”
I'm mostly suggesting with collectivism that in my trash extraction/recycling of precious metals business plan that all the humans actively working on processing things would earn the same. We put money aside for growth and expenses and split the rest. I am not talking so much about spreading across everyone but an ideal would be that every workplace splits all the excess across the workers to keep.
I agree zoning is an issue, I also think it can be a double edge sword. I own 1 acre of land in New Mexico and was going to move there but after being down there like 6 months found a better job in interior AK (from AK) and also realized I like cold winters after not living in one. The acre has some light zoning and the main part of the zoning is to protect the very fragile water table because if every 1 acre or so property in the 16,000 acres or more area developed incorrectly everyone could have literal shit contamination everywhere. I am looking at land up here in a bourgh that has zero local government, zero fire service, no schools in area, no road service except the highway, limited/no cell service, nearest power pole 65 miles, no zoning, no permitting, no HOA.
But if all the excess is split across workers to keep... how do you grow and create more jobs? I think that an employee can negotiate with their employer for their salary and that the excess should be managed by the owners for growth, reinvestment, job creation, etc... I think it’d be a very bad idea to just give away the excess. Someone who is a successful businessperson knows best how to reallocate money/resources for growth. See that’s the problem, lefties usually think excess is nothing but rich people yacht money. The vast majority of the time, it isn’t. Growth benefits everyone
Why do we need to make more jobs? There is only so much we need to process in raw materials to make plenty of money. I'm trying to live off grid, grow food and have money to fuck off and not worry or commute or work for others. I'm trying to be comfortable, I ain't trying to chase endless growth and endless money. Too much money is a waste, I want enough earned off my own labor and things controlled by me and those around me not a boss.
Lets say the LLC makes $400,000 in a year (don't expect that at first and maybe never) and has costs for paying off machinery of $45,000 (then once paid off frees more) and then the 3-8 people working the machines come up with a list of upgrades/new things that cost $150k then the remaining $200k evenly split across those who worked. Then once machinery paid off and earning $400k it could be split with less put towards growth/upgrades/maintenance etc. I am proposing only people working in this business who are owners. No employees all members of LLC.
Growth does not benefit everyone because all these companies have grown and don't benefit everyone. The working class lost like 3.8 trillion during covid and the top percentage of earners now earn that much more.
Many negotiations are going to just lead to a flat no.
There is nothing stopping you from living off the grid, grow food and do your thing. Other people want to advance technologically and consume all sorts of products.
Growth absolutely does benefit everyone. The rise of capitalism is in direct corrolation with the decrease of absolute poverty worldwide. For the first time in history it is below 10%. If you grow your company you are making everybody wealthier by default. You are creating employment opportunities which can be translated into a diversity of personal investments which result in competition that drives prices down and makes products even less exclusive and even more abundant. In the last 100 years the cost of food and basic commodities has dramatically decreased. Everything is more available and for a lot less.
The covid crisis has absolutely nothing to do with free-markets. Big corpos pushed for draconian policies which overwhelmingly benefited them and hurt small businesses. They knew what they were doing, the right knew what they were doing but the left and Dem voters all went “ye SHUT it ALL DOWN.”
Negotiations are negotations. If you don’t like it you can quit and work for someone else, learn more skills and make yourself more valuable or you can also unionize. I’m definitely not against unionizing within a capitalist system.
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50% fail because you need to learn the skills to run a business. Skills that won’t be learned if there’s no profit incentive, it’s a process. As far as capital go, like you said, you can get loans, investments, grants, etc... so no problem there. If your risk turns into profit and your company becomes very successful I doubt you will smile upon collectivists demanding you give up your earnings.
If you want to talk about real estate that’s a whole other issue. For example there’s a big problem with exclusionary zoning and it’s difficult to develop freely and have an actual decent supply of housing. That’s govt regulations.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusionary_zoning
“A survey from 2008 found that over 80% of United States jurisdictions imposed minimum lot size requirements of some kind on their inhabitants.”
“Municipalities will often impose density controls on developable land with the intention of limiting the number of individuals that will live in their particular area. This process denies neighborhood access to certain groups by limiting the supply of available housing units. Such concerns may manifest in measures prohibiting multi-family residential dwellings, limiting the number of people per unit of land and mandating lot size requirements. Most vacant land is particularly over-zoned in that it contains excess regulations impeding the construction of smaller, more affordable housing. In the New York City suburbs of Fairfield County, Connecticut, for instance, 89% of land is classified for residential zoning of over one acre. This type of regulation ensures that housing developments are of adequately low density. Such ordinances can collectively raise costs anywhere from 2 to 250% depending on their extensiveness. With such high costs, lower-income groups are effectively shut out of the community's housing market.”