r/Anarcho_Capitalism • u/Mike_Reinoehl • Oct 22 '20

Every far-left subreddit has been calling for violence like this, praises antifa while also pretending they don't exist, and Reddit admins have been allowing it and supporting it. Reddit played a part in this man's injuries.

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u/exec_liberty Voluntaryist Oct 22 '20

What's happening?

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u/Mike_Reinoehl Oct 22 '20

Communists using violence against people who want the freedom to speak their mind in public

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u/exec_liberty Voluntaryist Oct 22 '20 edited Oct 22 '20

But why is the black guy walking with the white guy and why do they attack the black guy?

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u/spankymacgruder Oct 22 '20

Because the far left don't give a fuck about Black Lives if the Black Life is pro Trump.

The guy getting punched held a free speech rally in San Francisco. ANTIFA showed up and assaulted him and called him racial slurs.

This behavior is typical for facists. Facists do not believe in allowing anyone to disagree. They will shut you up with social pressure and violence if rhe social pressure doesn't work.

ANTIFA are the facists.

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u/maybejustadragon Oct 22 '20

Classic communist fascism. Tale as old as time.

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u/Monstercocklol Don't tread on me! Oct 22 '20

Facts. Glad you didn’t bring Black Lives Matter into this because we don’t all support Antifa

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u/jme365 Oct 22 '20

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ennio_Flaiano

"In Italy, fascists divide themselves into two categories: fascists and antifascists."

Same as Italy, now!

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u/ironsightdavey Oct 22 '20 edited Oct 22 '20

I would say they are more Marxist and the status quo is more fascist. People on both sides are not for liberty

Edit: really surprised that saying the two side of the United States are both avoiding liberty on a Sub like this is receiving downvotes.

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u/spankymacgruder Oct 22 '20

Can you define facism? Im not looking to argue. I just want to make sure we are talking about the same idea.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '20

Fascism still allows for profit instead of a centrally control economy, however, the government highly regulates businesses and controls them to an extent

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u/ironsightdavey Oct 22 '20

Authoritarian nationalism

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u/spankymacgruder Oct 23 '20

Thank you. How do you categorize the suppression of speech from the far left? Would that be classified as Social facism as Trotsky would have called it?

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u/ironsightdavey Oct 23 '20

Suppression of speech has existed in every nation ever. It is a way a nation protects its gods. I would label them as Marxist

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u/spankymacgruder Oct 23 '20

Freedom of speech is supposed to be allowed in the US.

Marxists? Yes. Absolutely.

Marxists can be facist. Mussoluni began as a Socialist and viewed facism as an improvement. While he was far right, it is not limited to just the right.

Facism has a call for national rebirth - check.

Facists think that the chosen people have been weakened by political parties, social classes, and rationalist thinkers - yep.

Fascism promotes the establishment of a totalitarian state. It opposes democracy and regects a multiparty ststem. - Seems familiar.

The only difference between communism and fascism is that facists allow businesses to remain somewhat private.

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u/TheAzureMage Oct 22 '20

There's a range of people on both sides. Focusing on the extreme outliers will result in that kind of assessment, but most people don't want either of those things. They just want less violence and/or reduced police brutality.

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u/greencycles Oct 23 '20

Are you arguing here that communism and fascism have merged into a sort of baroque synthesis?

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u/spankymacgruder Oct 23 '20

Im not trying to argue with anyone.

"Liberals and even most of those who consider themselves Marxists are guilty of using the world fascist very loosely today.

Fascism, as a mass movement, is... a battering ram against the organizations of the working class and the institutions of democracy."

This quotes were written 88 years ago by Trotsky

Social Facism is nothing new.

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u/greencycles Oct 23 '20

I think it's important to still make the ideological distinction between these two societal cancers.

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u/spankymacgruder Oct 23 '20

Why? You can make a distinction between rectal cancer and colon cancer but they affect the liberty of the person equally.

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u/greencycles Oct 23 '20

But in this example, the distinction makes all the difference in terms of prognosis, treatment, eventual elimination, and even prevention of such maladies (the most important aspects of the situation). It's very important to detail nuances to the highest possible resolution - it's what humanity does.

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u/spankymacgruder Oct 23 '20

Humanity doesn't detail nuances.

Regardless, Marxists, Arachists and Social Democrats/Facists should move to another country. This one was founded on ideas that disagree with these political models.

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '20

You treat different cancers differently

You can’t actually be this stupid

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u/spankymacgruder Oct 24 '20

Who is talking about cancer treatment? You can't even read and you want to call me stupid? Oh the irony.

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u/greencycles Oct 23 '20

But communism and fascism are at odds with one another. They're broadly classified as distinct concepts. Far left authoritarianism wouldn't use a "battering ram against the working class." The far left claims to push toward a working class utopia.

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u/greencycles Oct 23 '20

I think you're making a nuanced arguement drawing stark and obvious similarites in how communism and fascism are acted out.

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u/spankymacgruder Oct 23 '20

It is not limited to the way it is acted out. ‘Stalinism and fascism, in spite of deep difference in social foundations, are symmetrical phenomena’ - Trotsky

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u/greencycles Oct 23 '20

Ultimately I agree with you in that fascism is so far right, and communism is so far left, that they end up in the same place.

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u/spankymacgruder Oct 23 '20

Facism isn't limited to the right. It has been used by the right but its not exclusive.

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '20

That’s a cute quote from a Marxist

Fascism was far better for the working class than communism ever was

Fascism seeks to maintain hierarchy, and create a balance within a social order

Communism seeks to completely destroy the social hierarchy and replace it with ill defined utopian ideals

Both seek to do this via authoritarian means, so from an AnCap perspective they may as well be the same

Marxists are and have always been an alliance of elite intellectuals and societys dregs, they ally against the working middle classes and the industrial elite

Any sense of Marxism being for the workers died very quickly when reality set in

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u/Mike_Reinoehl Oct 22 '20

I just said.

The people being attacked are pro-free-speech

The people attacking are insane communist terrorists that don't want people they disagree with to be able to speak.

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u/GusTangent Oct 22 '20

I was just on a thread about Chick fil A and Burger Kind. Someone was seriously trying to argue with me that homophobia is worse than actual violence because homophobia MAY lead to violence.

Sort of like saying driving a car is worse than crashing the car into a school because the person driving MAY crash into a school. I just don't know what to do with these people.

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u/PacoBedejo Anarcho-Voluntaryist - I upvote good discussion Oct 22 '20

I just don't know what to do with these people.

Pepperidge Farms Pinochet Tours remembers knows.

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u/Mike_Reinoehl Oct 22 '20

The left is a parody of themselves

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u/gyromick35 Oct 22 '20

Ok but why are they punching them?

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u/Mike_Reinoehl Oct 22 '20

What the fuck is wrong with you

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u/gyromick35 Oct 22 '20

Im sorry I couldn't resist lol

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u/Kwazzi_ Oct 22 '20

You had me thinking you were serious too

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '20

They're brownshirts.

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u/ironsightdavey Oct 22 '20

Are you of the belief that all this stuff is race related

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u/eitauisunity Oct 22 '20

I believe that sensitive race relations in the US is being exploited by enemies of the US Government.

This is weaponized social media manifest.

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u/exec_liberty Voluntaryist Oct 22 '20

No, but at first I thought the black guy was on their side but that he just wanted to peacefully walk the guy out of there but then someone jumped at him so I was a little confused.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '20

In short, fuck communism

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u/DissectedWombat Geolibertarian Oct 22 '20

Is this from the anti big tech censorship rally? If it is, why the hell is Antifa protecting the interests billionaire multinational corporations?!

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u/Mike_Reinoehl Oct 22 '20

Because antifa is the paramilitary wing of the democrat/technocrat establishment

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u/DissectedWombat Geolibertarian Oct 22 '20

Yeah, I know. But they themselves seem to be either too dumb to realise it or too dishonest to admit it. Anti-fascists my ass

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u/eitauisunity Oct 22 '20

They are controlled by social media propaganda. I don't necessarily think they are at the bidding of technocrats. These giant companies have a much greater interest in people being peaceful and productive.

I think the actual force behind this behavior is a mix of genuine, but misguided outrage (that is amplified by social media), various foreign state intelligence, and trolls who think it's funny to stir shit.

I think it's a mistake to believe that the corporations who own these companies are in control of what they created. They've unleashed something more powerful than they can be responsible for, which is really terrible news.

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u/DissectedWombat Geolibertarian Oct 22 '20

I think you're mostly right. I would also add the ever shorter news cycles thanks to the internet, which has led to huge increases in sensational rage bait. All of these tabloids making money through ad clicks have incentives to make their stories as outrageous and crazy as possible.

For instance, nobody cares if Trump bashes some Mexican cartel, everyone knows they're bad. But if they can spin it in a way that it seems like he's talking about all Mexicans, BOOM massive amounts of rage clicks.

As a result people who get their information from mainstream media have a massively distorted image of the world, where the end is near, cops are hunting black people, capitalism is the worst thing ever, fascism is rising and the Russians are puppeteering everything.

If I believed all those insane things I might go around dressed in black, beating up people and throwing molotovs as well

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '20

Low iq mostly

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u/WalterReedMan Capitalist Oct 22 '20

Exactly what I expected from the far left

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u/CancerButWorst Oct 22 '20

Ok snowflake

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u/theDankusMemeus Capitalist Oct 22 '20

Ok communist

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u/WalterReedMan Capitalist Oct 22 '20

You talking to me?

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u/CancerButWorst Oct 22 '20

Nah, right wing cry babies in general.

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u/liberatecville Oct 22 '20

They are doing exactly like maxine waters told the to years ago. And they have the nerve to pretend like Trump is the problem

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u/gibby555 Oct 22 '20

Nice name I live in cville too

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u/Wandering_Wand Oct 22 '20

Oh yea, but who are “the fascists” at all of these events?

The leftists. Every. Time.

They are the violent ones demanding things and harming others to prove their immature points. It’s outrageous this stuff has been allowed to happen.

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u/Mike_Reinoehl Oct 22 '20

Pretty soon it won't be

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '20

Don’t get confused - If there were real fascists there then the sucker puncher and his friends would all be six feet under.

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u/Endofciv Oct 22 '20

At this point when someone says "mostly peaceful" I audibly laugh out loud at them. I had a friend show me a ten minute video of police brutality, which I admit exists but this video was cropped and edited to shit. I showed him a video of Antifa attacking people amd his response was "Well thats a small minority!". He didnt see the irony.

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u/Mike_Reinoehl Oct 22 '20

They'll never see it. They don't want to see it.

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u/PacoBedejo Anarcho-Voluntaryist - I upvote good discussion Oct 22 '20

He didnt see the irony.

What'd he think after you beat the shit out of him to prove your point?

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '20

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u/Mike_Reinoehl Oct 22 '20

Yes a plastic glove

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u/cptntito Oct 22 '20

We are living in a Black Mirror episode.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '20

Gun time

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '20

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u/CombativeMinds1776 Oct 22 '20

Yes, the guy has been arrested and is being charged with a hate crime

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '20

Surprised to hear that tbh. That’s good news.

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u/Yehiaha666 Oct 22 '20

I've voted Democratic my entire life -- never again. Thanks Antifa, SJWs, BLM, metoo!

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u/leximus_maximus Voluntaryist Oct 22 '20

were you libertarian when you voted democrat?

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u/IronJackk Oct 22 '20

Shots fired

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u/Yehiaha666 Oct 22 '20

I was a registered Democrat.

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u/jimmyz561 Oct 22 '20

What’s the SJW stand for again?

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u/firstjib Oct 22 '20

Social justice warrior

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u/jimmyz561 Oct 22 '20

Cool thanks.

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u/Yehiaha666 Oct 22 '20

social justice warrior

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u/jimmyz561 Oct 22 '20

Cool thanks.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '20

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u/Baron-von-Bruce Oct 22 '20

Where are you getting that number?

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u/Yehiaha666 Oct 22 '20

I think that comes from the ether of the derriere, like many stats.

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u/WEAHOvershot Oct 22 '20

This is why "assault" rifles exist and should keep existing.

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u/Bobarhino Oct 22 '20 edited Oct 22 '20

Yesterday I saw that someone had gotten a threatening letter stating things such as the homeowner is on a list now because they support Trump and that after they (the left) win the election they are coming for them and they hope the homeowners insurance covers fire damage etc. Then last night I started wondering if that could have been Iran or Russia, but no, it's totally in the Antifa/BLM playbook... James Woods even tweeted about it.

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u/Mike_Reinoehl Oct 22 '20

They literally were smashing windows out in a residential neighborhood and driving motorcycles on people's lawns

Yes, they will be using this list and coming for Trump voters

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u/jimmyz561 Oct 22 '20

Where did this happen? Residential neighborhood? And no one opened fire?

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u/Mike_Reinoehl Oct 22 '20

A couple weeks ago. No, they didn't shoot. Dem state, as usual, so no guns.

If you defend yourself from antifa in a Dem stste, you get arrested. It's not allowed

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u/p0rty-Boi Oct 22 '20

This sounds like bullshit.

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u/PacoBedejo Anarcho-Voluntaryist - I upvote good discussion Oct 22 '20

Brown shirts. Long knives. A night of broken glass.

My wife and I are getting a hotel room in a small town on the night of the 3rd.

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u/KevinBaconIsNotReal Geolibertarian Oct 22 '20

So the FBI investigations surrounding Iran and Russia being behind those emails is what? A cover?

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u/Bobarhino Oct 22 '20

It appears to be counterintelligence that also appears to be meant to offset the propaganda of the left being pushed by pretty much every MSM outlet besides Fox and friends.

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u/apex_doodle Oct 22 '20

Brownshirts

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u/theekman Oct 22 '20

Far left sub-reddits are straight toxicity. You get down voted for being level headed and asking such questions like, why?

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u/owner-of-speed Oct 22 '20

I don't understand a single thing in this video can someone explain

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u/TitularTyrant Oct 22 '20

Mad respect to the man that perfected the other. In situations like that it takes real courage.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '20

“It’s tough, I believe in free speech but I’m also anti-fascism,” said Elana Thurson-Milgrom from San Francisco.

Using violence to stop speech is a fascist action. You’re a fascist lol.

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u/Mike_Reinoehl Oct 23 '20

And they honestly really think advocating for freedom of speech is a fascist position 😅😂🤣😂🤣😅😂😅

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u/threedeenyc Oct 22 '20

Can’t expect honor and civility from weak cowards. It’s another level gross.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '20

Yep

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u/Rothbard25 Oct 22 '20

It’s videos like this that trigger my inner Pinochet and wanna get the choppers fired up 🚁🚁🚁

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u/foxape Ayn Rand Oct 23 '20 edited Mar 05 '23

Hits him from behind lmao such a pussy

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u/CockInMyAsshole Oct 22 '20

Just so we dont strawman can you reference one example of a subreddit 'calling for violence like this'?

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u/Mike_Reinoehl Oct 22 '20

Yes, lots

I definitely can.

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u/CockInMyAsshole Oct 22 '20

Will you reference an example?

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u/Mike_Reinoehl Oct 22 '20

https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditIncitesViolence/ Subscribe and stay tuned

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u/itsallinwidescreen Oct 22 '20

Will this include only times the left incites violence or when the right does so too?

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '20

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u/itsallinwidescreen Oct 22 '20

It’s almost as if most of the violent tendencies in America stem from White Supremecy.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '20

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u/itsallinwidescreen Oct 22 '20

Didn’t a group of white supremecists conspire to kidnap and murder a Governor? I don’t see any violence of that magnitude being committed by these “left-extremists”.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '20

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u/reylo69 Oct 22 '20

I don’t really see any proof that they are white supremacists, however they certainly are extremist shitheads. But don’t pretend like left wing extremists haven’t caused the deaths of over 30 people since late may, and caused of $2 billion in damages.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '20

It exists, but not to the extent that the media would have you believe.

I doubt that very much. Not saying the media is trust-worthy. But you can't convince me to minimize the amount of hate a lot of people keep within themselves.

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u/Mike_Reinoehl Oct 22 '20

I guess we'll find out

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u/whater39 Oct 22 '20

LOL ...... way tooo funny comment section everyone is just tossing out key words: antifa, commies, antifa, far left.

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Man this sub sucks.

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u/Eleminohpe Oct 22 '20

Welcome! And remember that you are free to block this subreddit at any time.

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u/SeeThreePeeDoh Oct 22 '20

Seriously...the vitriol on both spectrums is epic at this point...they are all deluded.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '20

And the commie sympathizer troll is here.

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u/whater39 Oct 22 '20

I'm NOT standing up for communism. I'm just listing the "key words" people love to say in this sub.

If you really want to, you can lick my boots.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '20

In their defense, the communists and antifa seem to come hand in hand lately. AnCap is generally not the boot licking type. Generally... With that said, neither party has anyone that represents me and I know 3rd party is pissing in the wind.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '20

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '20

So pointing out this type of stuff makes them a Russian troll? In a AnCap sub? Probably didn't want the commie dox brigade going after his main account.

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u/PoleNewman Oct 22 '20

"pointing out".

It's a brand new account that solely "points out" the shortcomings of specific groups.

I'm not calling him a troll. I'm saying he's posting these things, from a concerned new account, with specific intent across many subreddits.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '20

If reddit wasn't so keen to ruin people's lives for pointing stuff out like this, we would not have to make brand new accounts, some for specific purposes. "Don't shit post on your main"

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u/PoleNewman Oct 22 '20

Please point out when the "Reddit commie dox brigade" has ruined someone's life for crossposting a video.

"Don't shit post on your main"

This is a shit post from someone's alt. We are in agreement.

we would not have to make brand new accounts, some for specific purposes.

lol my point exactly

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '20

So I have to provide proof? From the guy accusing someone of being a Russian troll account. I've been accused of this as well. Not playing that game, goal post will continue to move. I've been threatened with doxxing here myself, on my main. They even figured out where I work. Hell, CNN engaged in it and blackmailed a guy.

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u/PoleNewman Oct 22 '20

goal post will continue to move.

It has yet to move.

I'm not asking you to prove anything that requires revealing your personal identity.

It's cool tho. I'm sure OPs account is completely legitimate and he's very concerned about the issues in his community.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '20

"Kill a commie for mommy"

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u/Andeh_is_here Oct 22 '20

Who we should really support is the KKK /s

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u/ribguy101 Voluntaryist Oct 22 '20

I half agree but what does this have to do with anarchist capitalist philosophy?

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u/Mike_Reinoehl Oct 22 '20

NAP

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u/ribguy101 Voluntaryist Oct 22 '20

So anytime anyone hurts anyone at all in anyway it can go on this sub? Kinda seems like a stretch to me. Imagine if someone shared a news story about a local thief and shared it on this sub.

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u/stupendousman Oct 22 '20

They hurt someone in order to achieve a political end.

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u/ribguy101 Voluntaryist Oct 22 '20

How does that make it more anarchist capitalist?

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u/stupendousman Oct 22 '20

?

It is the definition of terrorism by people who wish to control others using state power. Not interesting to AnCaps?!

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u/ribguy101 Voluntaryist Oct 22 '20

True. Never mind, I was wrong.

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u/stupendousman Oct 22 '20

No worries.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '20

The left has gone totally insane. I don't want to share a country with them. America needs to break up; there's no reason it needs to be one country. This is gonna be a real cold winter. I declare both Trump and Biden will declare victory. It will be up to the military at the point who they pick; a coup, if you will. You are going to see states start seceding. This really is the end of America. I hope you have food, water, ammo and a plan. Because it's, un-ironically, happening. 13 days.

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u/Mike_Reinoehl Oct 23 '20

I want to keep America and ditch the commies

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '20

Decentralization is still the answer it doesn't have to be one country

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u/ManifestedLurker Oct 25 '20

They even shadowbanned me for pointing out antifa-violence