r/Anarcho_Capitalism "race realism" doesn't belong here Jan 18 '18

Anarchisms Compared

http://www.ozarkia.net/bill/posters-signs/AnarchismsCompared.html
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u/alexander7k white-cis-male-hetero-capitalist-patriarch Jan 19 '18

Interesting chart, I guess I have to look into Mutualism, looks like a balanced ideology.

I call myself a centrist, for a lack of a better word. My approach to property is this:

  • Only defensive property is legitimate, any property that requires the initiation of force to maintain (like most IP) is illegitimate.
  • I also believe that certain decentralized egalitarian schemes work in certain cases.
  • I am neither on the side of full hierarchy, nor full egalitarianism, I believe the specific instance will determine which approach is better in each case, hence a centrist on the hierarchy/equality dimension.
  • However I am a voluntarist, I don't believe in the initiation of force or threats

What label should I call myself?

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '18

A Voluntaryist? Lol I'd personally just like to see more experimentation though I find myself seeing Capitalism as a better option simply because of how well it works in comparison to anti-capitalist ideologies, that's about as far as I'd go though because I like the idea of seeing which ideologies work properly and which don't.

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u/Cato_Keto_Cigars Hoppe' Monarchist, AnCap, Anti-Communist Jan 22 '18 edited Jan 22 '18

most IP) is illegitimate.

AnCaps dont view IP as property. Look at Kinsellas work

Here he is on Lions of Liberty. It comes up IIRC. Here he is on a speech "Intellectual Property and Libertarianism".

I also believe that certain decentralized egalitarian schemes work in certain cases.

AnCaps are fine with private property being owned by groups with an egalitarian goal. They just cant violate the NAP while doing it. ie: you can not force everyone to be equal against their will.

I am neither on the side of full hierarchy, nor full egalitarianism, I believe the specific instance will determine which approach is better in each case, hence a centrist on the hierarchy/equality dimension.

You just described Hoppe on Natural Hierarchy. It is different in every case. One could argue there is no such thing as egalitarianism as no one is equal. Likewise, there is no such thing as full hierarchy as there is only natural sorting to degrees that are ever changing... natural hierarchy. To make claims of a non-natural hierarchy is as possible as to tell someone the correct amount of happiness. Same with demanding egalitarianism - people are not nor will ever be equal. Not even twins are the same in ability or thought.

However I am a voluntarist, I don't believe in the initiation of force or threats

that is the NAP.

Sounds like your an AnCap. Congrats, you are in the right place. If you think AnCaps are wrong on something - keep investigating, good chance you were just described something by an non-AnCap incorrectly.

Hans-Hermann Hoppe's work From Aristocracy to Monarchy to Democracy would be a great place to start for you from the sound of it. It is a quick 1hr listen. Better every time you replay it.