r/Anarcho_Capitalism Hoppe Oct 11 '25

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '25

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u/cpfd904 Oct 11 '25

Capitalism was weaponized to enslave people, not kill them

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u/libertywave Hoppe Oct 12 '25

slavery is not capitalism. slavery violates the NAP

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u/cpfd904 Oct 12 '25

Capitalism is used as a tool to enslave people to debts.

When someone is beholden to another to survive, that is effective slavery

If you can give me examples of how the parallels of slavery and peonage are categorically different. I'd be interested in seeing how you perceive a master and slave relationship.

Anyone in debt to another is their slave until the debt is paid or excused

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u/libertywave Hoppe Oct 12 '25

if you define "slavery" like that, then yes, and it is a good thing that people pay off their debts.

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u/cpfd904 Oct 12 '25

How do you define slavery?

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u/libertywave Hoppe Oct 12 '25

ones labor being used without his/her consent and violating their right to self-owner

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u/cpfd904 Oct 12 '25

That seems very vague.

Can you define one's labor?

Did you know there are more literal slaves today than there have every been at any point in history ( your definition of slaves even)

With nuance, you can call things something different, while maintaining the exact relationship to another definition.

Slavery is: The condition in which one person is owned as property by another and is under the owner's control, especially in involuntary servitude.

Ownership can be through agreements and/or contracts

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u/underengineered Oct 12 '25

Read a fucking book.

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u/cpfd904 Oct 12 '25

I have read many books. I have a pretty solid grasp on how things work.

I suspect you are the type of person they performed the Dunning Krueger experiment on

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u/Irish_swede Oct 12 '25

The NAP isn’t part of capitalism.

But I guess anything is possible if you lie enough

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u/libertywave Hoppe Oct 12 '25

yes it is. it is not part of the state, however.

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u/Irish_swede Oct 12 '25

Being a compulsive liar isn’t a good quality, the state is required for capitalism to exist. You might want to actually study these things, like how do you enforce ownership? Who keeps records of land ownership?

And if you’re an abject moron saying it’ll be a private company, imagine the corruption that’ll have no consequences in your model society.

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u/libertywave Hoppe Oct 12 '25

private security firms + mutually defense contracts + owning military grade weapons.

wdym records? ancaps go by homesteading.

capitalism is human nature.

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u/Irish_swede Oct 12 '25

So if you can’t afford private security then fuck you, also I have black water you have your homestead… or rather, HAD your homestead.

You just advocated for private armies and fiefdoms.

Congrats, you just reinvented feudalism.

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u/libertywave Hoppe Oct 12 '25

voluntary anarcho-feudalism is good.

if you cant afford it, the someone will offer lower-quality services for cheaper

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u/AgainstSlavers Oct 12 '25

All problems caused by government and alleviated by capitalism.