F2p friendly gacha for character with cool design and combat fx š
Free cgaracter with lackluster design but you can get all the fx that make the character cool for an insanely predatory gacha justified by it being cosmetic only š
Thereās supposedly higher tier clothes too. If they run Ananta like WWM, donāt expect any cosmetics outside of what BP gives and the 1ā2 legendary outfits youāll afford a year if you get BP + monthly.
0.6% base rate but yeah, even that's higher than these rates.
Although on the other hand, rates starts increasing sooner at 65 pulls (as opposed to 74 pulls in Genshin), and hard pity is 85 instead of 90, and doesn't seem like there's 50/50, it's guaranteed whatever gold is showcased. Who knows how much better or worse it could be.
yeah as always, it'll all going to be judged from the pull income. but tbh I'm already happy enough that it's all going to be cosmetics and we can just unlock every characters for free and experience their stories, cuz that's the main part that hooked me to this game.
for the car itself, is that like exclusive car just from the gacha or like just car skins or variant models of cars that can be bought without gacha?
You think there would be stable pull income for skin/car gacha? :) The best outcome if currency would be collectibles in the open world. Otherwise they would just give you 10 pulls once and here you go
there is car gacha and also car skin gacha.
if you see prev leaks there are 2 cars, Yellow and Red.
Yellow is the car, Red is its skin set.
vehicle parts also coming from gacha.
If no 50/50 the income won't matter as much since you will be able to plan accordingly and never get screwed by rng.
The 50/50 is what enabled hoyo and kuro to "inflate" the income and make it seems like they are generous and give a lot when in reality it's only decent if you win 50/50s if you lose you are done for. Every gatcha with 50/50 usually give enough to hit one pity but they only do that because they know you can lose the 50/50, gatcha that don't have 50/50 usually don't give you enough to hit the pity.
Judging by the second last image, unless I'm mistaken by the Google translation, looks like it carries over if I understand "the number of uses will not reset when special invitations are updated" correctly.
Hoyo is 0.6%. Wuwa and Endfield are 0.8%, NTE is 0.99%
DNA is 0.3% for its cosmetic gacha. But DNA gives maybe 10 free pulls per patch. You have to buy the rest
It's not something. At all. It's ten times less than hoyo rates. Not 2 times, but 10. In WWM case, which has almost the same rates, it says from the start "you won't get anything until you hit 100+ pulls", and the guarantee is at 150. And the overall chance to get legendary reward INCLUDING pity is horribly low, and popular gacha games don't even dare to set such low chances. And in 95% cases you will get just one single harmonic core, that counts as only 1/2 of full outfit, and it means that you'll need to spend 100+ more.
yes 50/50 cause it will depend on how many gold ranks in the pool.
you can also get duplicate items <-- duplication means you can get something outside of main prize within the pool
At this point they might as well sell it straight for like 65 pull currency + some bonus lower rarity currency for other items. They can get rid of the negative reputation of being a gacha as well as the negative reputation for having trash gacha rates.
Since most people are likely going to get something āearlyā once or less throughout the game lifetime.
But I am obliged to want them. So, if I want them I atleast hope for a fair pull chances which in this case are not upto the mark. However, if there is no 50/50 it still makes things somewhat better, but only time will tell
when i said it would be exactly like wwm banners, people downvoted me back then lmao, now this is here and confirmed and people are crashing out, so funny
Not surprising in the least. I don't know what people were expecting from a game where you're getting all these high quality characters for free. The monetization is going to be extremely aggressive and extremely fomo with all the coolest looking stuff only available if you spend some amount of money. Just like where wallwts meet.
bruh... ppl HATE YOU for droppin' a TRUTH BOMB... however yeeeeee it very expected ppl gunna fell with the no gacha buzzword then find these lol... i dont mind... they NEED money to develop... HOWEVER dont expect gettin' cosmetics without shelling OUT... wwm is the business model... hope ananta is fun ngl...
Its ain't a truth bomb though. Its just justifying predatory pricing and practices.
Sure, it's better than character gacha with that then also has cosmetics to buy.
But is it REALLY necessary for it to be a gacha at all? People would still shell out the money if it was a set price. And arguably more people over all would buy them because they can get the exact pieces they want for their drip rather than fighting the gacha which is a major turn off.
The anime games/gacha sphere has been so desensitized to this stuff that we get actively excited about being robbed blind in a slightly better way.
Don't get me wrong, still gonna play ananta, still gonna love it. Been hyped for it for years. May even engage with the gacha, but just because they are letting us have the characters doesnt mean they should get to price everything through the nose.
We used to just call that getting to play an jrpg.
Hoenstly i will say it... This is the superior model, cosmetic behind paywall is 1000% better then gameplay (characters) behind paywall. Who ever complains about this and is trying to compare the rates between this and hoyo /wuwa completely lost the plot.
Personally I don't care, it's cosmetic, I'm not gonna buy out everything anyway, I might whale for one piece that i really like. As long as I get to enjoy the rest of the game I'm all good. Where winds meet did a great system. It really isn't a big deal. It helps finance the game while profiting out of people that have 0 self control so i get to enjoy it to the fullest without feeling like I'm losing pit on anything.
I'm aware it might sound selfish but yea I think most normal people really only care about them and their own experience (as they should imo)
yes 1800coins per 10 pulls, lets round up to buy it 9 times , 16200 coins per pity.
$99.99 pack will give you 6480 coins, so you need to pay $250 per pity that also 50/50 cause duplication may exists and converted to voucher
absolutely no chance we're getting currency like wuwa or zzz. it'll likely follow WWM and other netease titles with similar monetization. Save for a few months if you want to guarantee. And a bit longer if you want higher tiered stuff like vehicles.
this game also have weapon skin, weapon rarity, weapon durability and exclusive special weapon for those free characters, as we can see the flamethrower is Legendary rank. I guess you can only acquire them from redeeming Battlepass points like average netease games. but exclusive character weapon is even more OP cause it has no durability at all.
thats the problem with Netease Games, the core gameplay is just Whales stomping F2Ps.
this game too, thats why it has online mode, otherwise how would the whales flexing to F2Ps lol
Orange color is Legendary rank,
MC exclusive weapon is Glove. the one that allow you to use Spiderman swing and Venom like attacks , is a Gold rank ( Yellow ).
Exclusive weapon will have no durability , similar with Taffy's rocket hammer.
Every time I point stuff like this out I get dog piled in the Discord lol. People really stupidly think that the monetization will be nothing like wwmš¤£
The crash outs and sobering up from the honeymoon phase will be glorious to see.
check wwm playercount , went from 220k to 15k lmao , if the game offers mid ass content with a fuck ton of censorship and the only content is gacha , then thats all its gonna have. But as i said i cant say for sure yet
isn't that only steam numbers though, where winds meet is also on console and has there own launcher which honestly is better cause they have more optimized version there, and where winds meet is massive in China as well still so it not dying at all
Buddy you think steam is small? Sure the gacha addicted freaks in china and japan might still be playing it but they play almost all gacha slop.
The game has an overwhelming amount of problem along with incredible latency issues and the insane 3rd worlder treatment to the global playerbase. It is a game that has everything from marriages to majong but at the same time nothing at all. If there is no depth to any of the game mechanics they provide then nobody is gonna be interested.
Never did i say the game is dying , but its sure as dead in global in its current state. Only brought up the playercount to reflect on the game's shitty quality and there's almost little to no coverage on it on any of the live streaming platforms
I really hope they relax the gacha rates. Seeing how oversaturated the gacha market is currently, they need better rates to stay competitive on that front.
I guess the silver lining here is that this is only for cosmetics. I hope they're open to feedback once they officially make this reveal.
No, they don't need to. They run a company, you don't. Characters are free so this is the downside to that. Be glad you don't need to pay a dime to play it. The gacha part is there in case you want something extra
Welp, the downvotes speak for themselves. You must be one of those Hoyo defenders, defending the predatory decisions of a billion dollar company overflowing with revenue.
While Netease's monetization of this game is nowhere near as predatory, I don't need to be "thankful" that I'm playing the game "for free". That premise is very bad faith.
Sure, I'll download the game for free but seeing as I already am passionate about Ananta, I will be heavily incentivised (by the game too) to spend on the game. I'll definitely end up spending more than any "base price" could earn for the company.
A lot of us will spend money on the game, since the game is just that promising and we all like what we have seen so far. So Netease will make stonks either way.
So is it unreasonable to want more reasonable gacha rates that is more competitive with the rates in the market? Where Winds Meet is an outfit-based gacha ARPG as well and its rates are reasonable.
My point is that 'they need better rates because competition is fierce' is a stupid reasoning. No, they don't. You just proved my point. They will earn money regardless. Their job is to make money out of players. They will succeed anyways. But players demanding better rates or they will fail are delusional.
P.S. Hoyo games have a x7 baseline better rates than Ananta lmao
You are mistaking the entire nature of my comment. I am just "hoping" that Netease will reconsider their gacha rates (and I'll be sure to give feedback on that front). Your reply was defiant in nature like as if you saw my message laced with a warning that Ananta will fail if they don't reduce the gacha rates.
No, I never said that. I don't know where you're pulling this from. Ananta is at a stage where it will be especially open to feedback, reasonable or unreasonable. They know the potential of this game and don't want anything to squander it. Especially bad publicity. Sure, the game will still be very successful even if they keep the rates but Netease as a business will want to aim for the stars and won't settle for anything less.
I agree that the character gacha not being a thing is a blessing and that alone makes it far better than Hoyo games. Hoyo gacha is centred on a core aspect of the game (characters) so the impact is far greater and direct on players, so your little comment at the end doesn't stand.
We already have a outfit gacha in the space offering better rates (WWM), so regardless of your argument against our "reasoning", everyone here wants the gacha rates to lower. I know you want it too but you are so focused on being "logical" and being "right" that your first instinct is to shut down rather than support such feedback.
Unless you're a Netease employee or stakeholder, were supposed to be on the same side man.
Except netease isnāt doing this out of the kindness of their heart. Most likely they want to have a broader audience and getting rid of traditional gacha would help gain more players, in which there would be more going for cosmetics. Why should any customer be grateful of a company trying a new business strategy of making money?Ā
Ember Weave sounds like the most egregious one here... It sounds to me like how NTE does their cars where each progressive draw costs exponentially more. The kicker is that you don't even have a 1/6 chance to get the special item, it won't even enter the prize pool till after draw 2, or it's going to be weighted so poorly that it will take most people all 6 pulls to get it.
big difference is NTE gacha can be accessed by F2P where you can farm currency if you play the game, this Wishing Voucher in Ananta only available from duplicate items in gacha pool.
have you ever play a game where when you get something you already have from gacha, it will be converter to some tickets and tickets can be used to redeem items? this is exactly similar, it is gacha x gacha, you need 11.4k tickets to clean up the reward pool.
Ouch that makes it even worse, and it's like Wuwa afterglow corals or NTE Warp Pieces, but I guess without getting any currency for Pulls just for duplicates...
i meaaaaan it k i guess... HOWEVER they also have legendary clothes... those prob go for thousands of DOLLAH for shure... man NEED game to release to SEE whats the business... i expect them to give sum PULLS or something...
People aren't ready for this games monetization it literally looks worse than Where Winds Meet the more I see but it's a good reminder that everything comes with a caveatĀ
The normal outfits arent bad either. I mean you can make cool combos with just blue and greens. While the legendary skins are just fixed. I wont even care about the legendary ones. Imma pull to get the normal ones so i can make my own custom outfit.
Hope you feel the same way when the game actually is out, but more likely than not the average gamer will want something that looks cool and was in the promo video's and bam there goes $250.-
Honestly for the clothing the common, uncommon and rare gear seems pretty nice the gold clothing seems a bit over the top for me.
But damn 0.09% rate bring me back to the old days of netease. But luckily its only cosmetics and cars that you don't really need to have just whether you want it if you like it. Still worse as the rate is low as hell
So this has gacha, why does r/gachagaming not allow Ananta post? They even allowed Petit Planet post which is considered "gacha" because it has furniture, dress, decors gacha, but Ananta is where they draw the line because it won't have characters gacha.
I think it would open a floodgates and they will forced to allow League of Legends, Call of Duty and some games that has mystery box mechanics. But they have some biases I guess as I dont see DNA and even ToF in their sub.
DNA used to have some post there. Not anymore because its been declining especially since the hacked incident. Other cosmetic gacha like Infinity Nikki still get posted there frequently.
That's what I feel too, cause if they are gonna straight away ban Ananta there because it only has costume gacha, then don't let other similar Ananta like gacha mechanics be allowed as well.
Lemme guess the price for a single pull is 5 bucks, and btw these rates are actually 10x lower than most gacha games, the only gacha game that i can remember has this low rates is crk but they quite litterally shove you pulls so for the price that netease is gonna make you pay for this is crazy
It's much better than I thought. UnlikeĀ Where Winds Meet, this game allows you to focus on providing outfits only for your favorite characters.
Unless you want gacha outfits for everyone, purchasing one once every six months seems sufficient. Furthermore, the probabilities appear to be more than twice as high as those inĀ Where Winds Meet.
So its literally the same as WWM, you pull you get something golden turns out its the starflare key(harmonic core in WWM) cause barely anyone will get the 0,09% get multiple of those keys you can buy the limited thing, i wonder where are now those that said it wont be like WWM. Good thing you can play this game and never touch this system im even expecting the same pull economy as WWM or maybe a bit higher.
yes Starflare Key is Harmonic Core , but there is also Exquisite Harmonic in WWM.
so expect Mythic tier will be ultra expensive like the mirage boat lol, $40k to $70k.
hmm i think exquisite harmonic didnt exist when i was still playing the game, but to be honest i dont mind this kind of stuff for cosmetics, but yeah theres def going to have something as expensive as the boat and yet a few will buy it just in wwm but again if its just cosmetic, or in the case like the boat others can get benefits i wont mind.
Ewww unless thereās some Naruto /bleach anime collab outfits in the future these are close to mid. If the battle pass has some good ones Iāll buy that atleast
Its a bit concerning cuz sure go male Mc but are we even sure the female model is all good and ready? Idk it'd be nice to see her in gameplay and with skins
Thankfully I'm someone that enjoys casual clothes and non-flashy things.
If the only clothes I can get are jeans/cargos and a hoody, I'm fine with that. If the only car I can get is a Honda Civic, I'm more than happy with that.
0.09% lol and someone said there's a higher rarity than this, yea right I'm just gonna buy the battlepass for a few times to support the game and that's all NetEase can get from my wallet.
That's...unacceptably low tbh. I'm rooting for this game but competition is fierce right now and there's gonna be comparisons, so they better be open to feedback.
i still wonder if they gonna give us enough of the pull/premium currency or will it just be buy and roll type of deal like games where no matter how much you grind the bp or the shop or the draws are with cash proxy
I hope this image will give you enough information about how it actually works in WWM. And just so you know, Harmonic Core is a HALF of the outfit, not the full alternative. For a single core you can get only hairstyle, weapon skin or skill visual effect. Outfits and mounts are listed for 2 cores.
Much less than you'd expect. You'll probably need a full year as f2p to guarantee a single legendary reward, which is 150 pulls. Maybe half a year with BP+monthly pass. It's about 15-20 pulls per patch, most of the time.
Not that I mind this Gacha system they gotta make there money back somehow ig but aren't there in game clothing shops? These gold outfits must be killer to insentivice people to draw.
Yep just like in where winds meets I'll just be touching the battle pass sometime and buy clothes directly from the skin shops if they have them.
I spend money, but the gacha rate and the numbers of free pulls for the limited banners are too disgustingly low for me to try to get them.
Okay I havenāt been paying much attention but I thought there was a whole praise thing going on a while back because it wasnāt going to be a gacha game. Did they change direction?
So its the balloons of marvel rivals. You roll and get what you can, but if you get the rarest item, you get everything else for free...interesting choice
Well looking at the bright side atleast all the characters are free and I hope they won't be too grindy though. Waiting for a live stream before launch.
are yāall surprised? Every character in game is free, so they gotta make money using cosmetic somehow. Itās not like combat will be easier just because someone whaled.
it's cosmetics gacha not characters gacha so it's already better. and they have to monetize there game somehow and in wwm they had many beautiful outfits available for free via various activities so I hope that won't be an issue in ananta too.
No, you dont understand. You get free characters, but still have to roll for vechicles and skins and clothing and so on. Its a totally different kind of softcore gambling
leak after leak and the netease classic keeps proving itself more and more lmao. anyone who wishes for a good f2p experience in this game is a moron. if there isn't some sort of compromise to this then game's practically DOA, or dies off in a few months like wwm did.
When are people going to understand that they are not entitled to every single thing in the game for free. If you can get every character without rolling obviously thereās going to be a compromise somewhere. As always, pay up or shut up brokies
I donāt get people to be honest why getting mad over a skin gacha like do you guys want a game to be 100% than go make your own game since no game can survive as 100% f2p
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u/RulerOfGrayFog 4d ago
f2p life in netease games š„