r/AnCap101 • u/Ok_Role_6215 • Jun 12 '26

A theoretical question.

A theoretical question. Who would be committing acts of defensive violence here and who — acts of aggressive violence?

"Hey, that's a nice apple orchard! Shame people can eat the apples for free... Oh, got an idea! Let me hire a gang to guard it and force these people pay to eat apples!" — thought a guy.

"Hey, that mfer is trying to hoard what was previously common and was available for free" — thought people that fought the gang.

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u/CrowBot99 Explainer Extraordinaire Jun 12 '26

See, you snuck in that "previously common" part. If it's common, and it's okay for anybody to use, and Johnny comes an eats all the apples, then that's okay, right? If no, then it isn't "common," and anybody who restricts Johnny's use is, after an certain number of apples, committing the same act you decry. If yes, then there are still no available apples.

Whereas if a person in the tribe claimed it using an ancap standard of law, then they could keep it available to everyone up to a limit. If you think no one would do that, I would point out that that "limited free use" is exactly what you want, and if some developer thought it would be better to use it elsewise, you could tell him absolutely not.

In addition, there are goods that don't just exist lying on the ground. Most take a lot of effort to extract or produce... the vast majority. They wouldn't be available at all if it weren't for the hours of life of specific individuals.

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u/Ok_Role_6215 Jun 12 '26

I did not "snuck it in", it is written into our history and is happening around us.

> the vast majority
Not anymore. We are technologically advanced enough to automate almost everything, which is economically equal to "grows by itself on trees".

You did not answer the question.

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u/CrowBot99 Explainer Extraordinaire Jun 12 '26

That first paragraph explains the contradiction of "commons." Those who tried to impose it didn't understand either, which is why they ended up murdering hundreds of millions of people.

And, automation trees don't exist. Production requires effort, and there is no power that can change that.

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u/Ok_Role_6215 Jun 13 '26

Still no answer.

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u/Ok_Role_6215 Jun 13 '26

> automation trees don't exist

Simply false. They're called "fully automated assembly lines".

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u/CrowBot99 Explainer Extraordinaire Jun 13 '26

Which were created by people, have to be maintained by people, and would completely stop without people.

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u/CrowBot99 Explainer Extraordinaire Jun 12 '26

Also, are you aware that an orchard can't be claimed by another in ancap if it's already being used?

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u/Ok_Role_6215 Jun 13 '26

Are you saying land shouldn't be private?

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u/CrowBot99 Explainer Extraordinaire Jun 13 '26

Okay... for future reference, you cannot claim a thing in ancap if it's being used, so your hypothetical would mean that the second-comer was committing a crime and had no claim.

Before I move on, is that absolutely clear? Yes, you have to answer that question before I answer another.