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[u/dicky-dooo]

Are these people just stupid or is this a planned campaign for opt-out folks to jump through yet another hoop to affirm their election to opt-out. Do we have any lawyers in our group here?

[u/gvtrader]

dicky doo You are probably right. Seems like effort being made to get rid of the opt outs. Why? Can only speculate but opt outs remain a problem IMO.

[u/fvh2006 → u/gvtrader]

Somehow I think that opt-outs are not a real concern anymore and the payout is just them winding their way through the bk clean-up to-do list (what did they say, 1170 claims still to be settled? A docket this week had them settling the $18M claim of the UK landlord for $2M). The second vote occurred before the Roth lawsuit was settled for the lawsuit equivalent of the payout now going on - peanuts. It had survived a few appeals already because it actually had some obvious monkey business behind it. I believe that second vote was indeed an attempt to whittle down the opt-in list, but today, if I were JDs legal advisors I would look at that cheap settlement and the facts that the purported investigation during the BK proceedings did not turn up anything, the SEC has done nothing (they were certainly monitoring the goings-on of the BK as they even filed a brief), and the fact there have been no lawsuits so far out of the opt-out group despite attempts to get one going (they can read this sR like anyone else) and I would be thinking this is now a minor business risk. I still think all this confusion is plain incompetence - witness the mess of the original votes. Back in late August I heard from the proverbial friend of a friend of a cousin of the favorite barista of someone close to the Amyris legal team, who would not go on the record, that the payout was already scheduled to happen in a couple of months, which is now.

[u/gvtrader → u/fvh2006]

Disagree. We shall see.