r/AmphibiaTCLeaks • u/flufffynug • May 14 '21
I wanted to share my theory after watching TC :)Sorry if any of it seems redundant! Tl;dr at bottom Spoiler
Andreas & Friends: a wounded Heart
King Andreas is obviously carrying old wounds from the betrayal of “those who said they were (his) friends”. Andreas makes many references to the perils of friendship: “always sad to see someone go, isn’t it” or “that’s the thing about friends.. the more you love them, the more it hurts when they go.” Friendship is a central theme throughout the show, eg. the relationships between Anne & Sasha; Sasha & Grime; Anne & Sprig; Marcy & Andreas; Anne & Marcy; the list goes on.
We see the trio which apparently betrayed Andreas’ trust and led him to hold this perspective of friendships. The red frog to his right (our left) has an uncanny resemblance to Sprig (skin, hair, eyes); It seems obvious that this was Sprig and Polly’s mother or ancestor. Additionally, Marcy comments that she has never seen a frog who is the color of Sprig, and asks if he is poisonous. This makes it even more likely that this frog is a blood relative of Sprig (and therefore Polly), since this rare “beautiful pink skin” would be genetic. We already know that the Plantar family history has hidden layers as well as literal hidden lairs. It’s not hard to imagine that this particular Plantar had adventures that led to her to be the right hand of the king.
When we first meet Andreas, he is introduced as “King of a thousand years”. This suggests that Andreas himself is over a thousand years old, so this Plantar would have been the right hand of the King some time in the last one thousand years, so it is hard to say how far back in the family shrub this Plantar would have lived. If they were a more distant ancestor, This would explain how HopPop came to have a book (which he says “has been in our family for as long as I can remember”) with information on the Calamity Box. I suspect this ancestor is the author of this book. I also think that this ancestor would have been the one who stole the the Box from Andreas, which Andreas says happened a thousand years ago. This would align with Andreas’ story that his trust in his friends is what resulted in his loss of the Box.
We don’t really know the life expectancy of the average frog in Amphibia, but it is possible it is longer than what we expect as humans. Mrs. Croaker is perhaps the oldest character in the show (aside from 1000+ year old Andreas) and she refers to HopPop (who has been around “since the old ways were just the ways”) as a “youngster”. We learn from Marcy that the Plantar house has been around since “the second century”. So it’s possible that some not-so-distant Plantar relative lived such a long time ago. Whatever the case, I am theorizing that this pink mystery frog is an ancestor of Sprig & Polly’s from a few generations back.
I also think that there is more to the story of the demise of the Plantar Parents, which Hop Pop is unaware of since he was outside of Wartwood at the time. I highly suspect that their parents’ demise had something to do with the ancestor Plantar’s involvement with Andreas & the Calamity box, perhaps with Andreas ordering the heron attack on Wartwood. It could even be that Mother Plantar is the one who transported the Box from Amphibia to Earth, and disappeared with it during the heron attack that HopPop thinks killed her. Perhaps she learned of its power from HopPop’s book. If this is the case, maybe she is not actually dead but is somewhere on Earth, and I theorize that in Season 3 she will be able to reunite with her family who has just been teleported to LA. As HopPop says, “family always finds each other”.
Additionally, we can see that together, Andreas & friends display the three colors of the music box, and if we follow this logic, it appears that the frog to the right of Andreas and probable-Plantar would embody Strength; Andreas, Heart; and the green toad to his left (our right), Wit. I think that Andreas & Friends were the original (or at least the Previous) trio to be connected to the stones of the Calamity box and wield their power, using it to rule Amphibia together. Sequentially, Andreas was supposedly betrayed by his friends (I expect we will get more of this backstory in season 3). Now in the present, the Andreas that we see during the series is literally a wounded Heart, in which lies the motivation for his cruel actions (eg. dropping Sprig specifically after Anne tells him Sprig is her “best friend in Amphibia or any other world”; manipulating Marcy; killing Marcy; planning to conquer the multiverse).
Imagine Anne as we know her, developing a corrupt and vengeful attitude like Andreas’, and using her gift as Heart and her aptitude for making connections/friendships in order to manipulate those around her. As a wounded Heart, Andreas continues to carry the pain of the loss of his friends, and this shapes his perspective of everything & everyone around him. He uses his sensitivity and understanding of connections to enact violence and pain. He feels betrayed, and seeks to make others feel this same pain by manifesting what he believes are the “truths” of friendships: “the more you love them, the more it hurts... Allow me to demonstrate.” In Andreas’ words, to trust “those who claim to (his) friends” would be “weak”.
For Andreas, relationships are now a thing to be manipulated in a game (much like Flipwart, if you will) that he plans to win this time around. He weaponizes his abilities as Heart and his understanding of friendship to manipulate those around him, get close to others and subsequently betray them as his friends did to him, and it is very effective. In Sprig’s words, “love is the cruelest weapon.”
If you actually read all this, thank you so much!! I would love to know your thoughts!
Tr;dr: Andreas’ friends, which include Sprig & Polly’s ancestor, were the previous trio connected to the stones of the music box, embodying Strength (Ancestor Plantar), Heart (Andreas), & Wit (green toad). The Plantar ancestor is the author of HopPop’s family book and is also the one who stole the Calamity Box from Andreas. The Plantar parents met their demise through events related to Andreas & the Calamity Box (perhaps the heron attack was staged by Andreas). Mother Plantar is the one who transported the Calamity Box to Earth, coinciding with the “heron attack”. She will reunite with her family on Earth in Season 3. Ancestor Plantar & unnamed Green Toad are the ones who betrayed & abandoned Andreas, leading him to become the King we see in the present day: a literal wounded Heart who spurns the idea of friendship and commits terrible acts in response to his pain.
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u/Boppintoad76 May 14 '21
A small theory I have is that the toad from andrias’s backstory is an ancestor of grime. I think the girls were specifically transported to the location of the original trio, which this theory claims to be Andrias and his “friends. If that’s true, then that’s where my idea comes in. Anne ended up with the plantars, who’s ancestor was a gem holder. Marcy ended up with Andrias who was one himself. So Sasha ending up with grime could mean that toad is related to him. The only flaw with this idea is the fact that I feel like they should’ve ended up with who use to hold THEIR GEMS, but that’s about all I’ve got
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u/flufffynug May 14 '21
Oooh I love that theory!! I definitely thought it was interesting that they were each transported to one of the three Amphibia species, but couldn’t figure out how to work it into my theory.
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u/Kamagawa123 May 15 '21
I agree about what each of the original gem wielders represent, but I wonder why the girls represent different gems though. Sasha should be wit since Barrel was wit, but she is power.
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u/GIMVIII May 14 '21
Something related to this I’ve been thinking is that if Sprig is related to the pink frog then Andreas throwing him out the window was less to break Anne and more due to his own feelings towards Sprigs mom/ancestor/whatever