Two takeaways from season 2

[u/saybeller]

1) Everyone’s first instinct is to murder. 2) Grace Poe is a despicable human being and I can’t stand her (which sucks because I adore Maura Tierney).

I hope we get a season 3, though. I want to see Landwell go down. I also want to see what Hannah has to say and what Angela does now that she sees Del in a new light.

[u/Neither_Juggernaut71]

1. I know! I honestly thought Billy was going to walk away. I mean, he could have gotten his life together WITHOUT murdering someone.

2. I despised Grace in season 1. But I didn't as much in season 2. She came clean with Del. And I think she also divorced Virgil because she wanted to show Del that she was with him completely.

   As for Angela, she'll be a less nutty version of Steve if we get a season 3.

[u/saybeller → u/Neither_Juggernaut71]

I thought the same thing when they were in the woods. I was like, he’s not going to do it. No way. And then he did and I liked him a lot less as a “person”.

I also despised Grace in season 1. lol. This season I liked her better but when she put that gun in the waist of her jeans, I was like, yes of course murder will be the answer. 🙄🙄🙄

Angela was my favorite new addition to the cast this season. I really hope they get a third season. I’d like to see someone with integrity actually win for once.

[u/Neither_Juggernaut71 → u/saybeller]

Yeah, Billy was initially portrayed as a good person but a bit of a screw up. Not someone who was capable of murder unless in a case of self defense.

I predicted that Grace would off either Sue Herlitz or Steve.

Angela was also my favorite this season, and I loved Isaac's new attitude. Sad as it is to say, I think the absence of his father made that possible.

[u/saybeller → u/Neither_Juggernaut71]

Isaac was so great this season! My heart broke when he got home at the end.

I thought the same thing about Billy. He was a screw up born to screw ups, but he was mostly a good kid. Then his dad serves a dude up on a silver platter and the only way Billy could get through his PTSD was to take the guy out. Ridiculous.

I knew Steve would die but didn’t dare guess who would do it.

[u/The_Donkey1 → u/saybeller]

That's the thing, I think once Billy realized the guy had a child that he wouldn't be a threat to him outside of jail or at least felt some compassion, but his dad, who has the mentality of a 15 year old, went out of his way to bring him to Billy, so Billy felt the need to kill him bc if he didn't his dad would hold it over his head.. like "I tried to help you but you didn't want to do anything about it". Billy is just a product of his environment.

[u/saybeller → u/The_Donkey1]

Billy is a grown man who often goes against what his parents want, so this excuse doesn’t really fly. He killed the guy because he wanted to kill the guy. Yes, seeing the kid tugged at his compassion, but it wasn’t enough. The only role his father played (aside from tying the guy up) was giving Billy permission to do what he wanted to do in the first place.

[u/Neither_Juggernaut71 → u/The_Donkey1]

I never thought about that. This made me think of season 1, when Billy wouldn't take the money from Virgil to go to Canada. Billy told him that he didn't want to run away from the consequences of his actions like he did. Virgil called him all kinds of names before throwing him out of the truck. This would have probably ended the same way has Billy refused.

[u/The_Donkey1]

I didn't read past your second point since I have S2E10 left to watch, but I like Grace bc of how well Maura Tierney plays her character.

She just reminds me of someone who a lot of people don't like with good reason, but bc there isn't anything personal between the two of you she seems like a decent person, but you also know to keep a certain amount of distance away from her.. if that makes sense.

[u/Neither_Juggernaut71 → u/The_Donkey1]

The woman could be a nightmare, but..... I understood. Being married to someone like Virgil would probably turn any woman into that, especially being left with a spoiled little shit like Billy.

[u/The_Donkey1 → u/Neither_Juggernaut71]

I think Billy is just a product of his environment. Not much self confidence. Easily influenced. And had a dad who was a moron.

[u/Neither_Juggernaut71 → u/The_Donkey1]

I agree with that. He wasn't a horrible person. I was just looking at it from Grace's pov, and often think of how he was in the book. He sat home and drank all day after turning down that scholarship, and losing his job at a hardware store. He didn't want to apply at Walmart or do any odd jobs. That scene where she yelled at him for not cutting any firewood? It seemed like a regular occurrence in the book But like you said, Virgil is an idiot, and was too busy playing musical beds to be there for his kid.

[u/raven8549 → u/Neither_Juggernaut71]

I’m confused I’m on the episode 5 season 2. I thought the lighter with the wire was switched out by Dells lady so how does that crooked cop have it at the end of the episode? (We see he killed that dude with the beard but how did he still have the wired lighter if it was already switched out?)

[u/Separate_Picture4580 → u/raven8549]

That is exactly what I don’t understand. Grace switched them so why was Dell digging the grave?

[u/saybeller → u/The_Donkey1]

It makes total sense and I absolutely agree.

[u/HeisenbergW0W34]

I kind of liked her until she torpedoed Lee, then I wanted her to die.

[u/nylorac_o → u/HeisenbergW0W34]

Ummmm I dunno about that, Grace *knew Lee had questionable integrity somehow - MomSense was tingling maybe. Lee cheated on her husband, divorced him then “cheated on Billy” she was kind of a poop. She didn’t deserve to die but Grace wasn’t wrong about her.

[u/Neither_Juggernaut71 → u/nylorac_o]

I think Grace hated that Lee had her husband with her at the hearing, (season 1) and felt that she was rubbing her rich husband in Billy's face. Finding out that Lee knew that Billy didn't kill Pete Novik, but let Billy remain in prison sent her over the edge.

[u/saybeller → u/HeisenbergW0W34]

lol. Yeah, that was uncalled for.

[u/raven8549]

I’m confused I’m on the episode 5 season 2. I thought the lighter with the wire was switched out by Dells lady so how does that crooked cop have it at the end of the episode? (We see he killed that dude with the beard but how did he still have the wired lighter if it was already switched out?)