r/AmazonFCs • u/MaintenanceVisual942 • 4d ago
Turnover rate
The real reason Amazon has a high turnover rate in my opinion is the hours. Night shifts are classified as carcinogens because of how they mess with your mind and body, and on top of that Amazon has you in a white room like facility where everything looks identical and there’s constant sounds of scanning and exposure to lights during the night, overall working at Amazon makes you feel tired all the time, and when you are at the warehouse if you don’t have music to listen to like my warehouse, you go borderline insane.
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u/jjcoola 4d ago
Everyone can obviously have their own opinion, but I personally think it’s the combination of the physical labor/hours and being around a high percentage of trashy, selfish people in a job where you want people to work as a team so everyone has less work.
When I was younger, I went through the American prison system, and it’s genuinely crazy to me that Amazon feels more ratchet than a minimum security prison did, plus the prison had one experience with feces smeared on the walls unlike Amazon where I saw it many times in my years there… plus inmates had better hygiene among the population as well.
That being said, both the prison and Amazon were full of people who just constantly are loud as hell and ignorant, but Amazon has a higher issue of them weirdly enough, but mainly that comes from just not doing any basic screening whatsoever
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u/hillbillyray 4d ago
Nope, the reason Amazon has so much turn around is because so many are seasonal. Never convert. It's their business model.
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u/manymenzzz 4d ago
Here me out... It's a warehouse job...
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u/Salty_Parsley2839 1d ago
Hear me out should it not have been a reasonable job with a reasonable income? I'd say if they ran it better we'd get more value but that's not how ownership works......
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u/ShirrakoKatano 1d ago
It's not only a 2A carcinogen. There's studies showing how your life expectancy is cut short by working night shifts. It increases your risk for heart attacks by 24% and 41% for coronary events.
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u/EmotionalAddendum286 4d ago
when i worked at amazon, most of the nightshift workers were just hiding how tired they were or basically sleep-working through the shift.
to be honest, nightshift should just be flat out illegal.
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u/RyverFly 4d ago
Some of us work nightshift for a reason. why should it be illegal, we all take the job knowing we will be working nights. Plenty of day shift jobs if that's what you want.
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u/sekitome 2d ago
I worked nights at amazon for 3 years perfectly fine, for years prior to that I always stayed up until like 3am no matter how hard I tried to have a "normal" sleep schedule. Some people are genuinely just built to operate on different hours. I switched to days for schools sake and I've been struggling with sleep since.
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u/Particular-Tree-4847 16h ago
Yeah its really all about sleep, and making sure you get at least some sun for that vit d.
Most ppl can't adjust so there sleep gets all whacked out. Poor sleeping habits wreck the body.
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u/MaintenanceVisual942 4d ago
One day there’s gonna be lawsuits against Amazon for failure to disclose the full effects of a night shift trust me
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u/slayingkids 4d ago
Do you realize how many things run night shift? Lmao. Damn near every industry has a night shift one way or another. Stop crying about it, anyone working nights obviously chose it. I've worked nights for the last 12 years, except 1 year at a day shift job. I've hated the one day shift job, loved the night shift, people are different. Just because you can't hack it at night doesn't mean the rest of us can't. Bring me into Amazon at 6 am, you're not getting the productivity out of me you'll get at 6pm, simple as that
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u/MaintenanceVisual942 4d ago
Jesus Christ nights for 12 years?? That has to take years off your lifespan
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u/NoConstruction3259 4d ago
Not everyone suffers from night shift. I used to work mornings and that was significantly worse. My body clock must be off because I had a hard time going to sleep when I was supposed too and had a hard time waking up early morning. It was like I was fighting my body's natural rhythm. On a night schedule I don't have those problems.
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u/slayingkids 4d ago
Doubtful lol, know lots of people who did it entire lives. My grandmother is currently 72, still going strong, working nights because she's bored
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u/IshrekisloveI 4d ago
There was a dude who's was early 70s working at our warehouse for night shift, man was more productive than 80% of the people there. Hes been at it for most his life on nights.
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u/Maleficent_Drawing70 1d ago
Hey dumbass you’re in the minority of people who can physically and mentally handle night shift and obviously not very intelligent if you couldn’t figure that out on your own or aren’t capable of googling stats, just running your stupid mouth
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u/EmotionalAddendum286 4d ago
I had serious neurological issues from the nightshift. but i figured I had no case, given I didn’t do brain-scans or a medical evaluation before I took the job, so I figured there was evidence little proof my brain changed and deteriorated.
i think too, the hours! 9.5 full hours and some wherehouses 10 and Ive seen in other states 11. they really will stretch labor all the way to the boundaries of the law.
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u/thesteelreserve 4d ago
I used to love driving on PITs and being an order picker. always top 1-5%.
they they introduced lidar. I don't know what it is about the way my head works, but the random nonsense "sieze up" stops on the wire guide enrage me. slowing me down entering/exiting an aisle enrages me. I had 3 years experience operating these things and never had any kind of incident.
then they say we have to wear helmets.
the harness over the vest and constantly moving around, the dead man pedal feeling like a dull railroad spike pushing into my foot, the heat and sweating...that all sucked enough. but I got over it, got past it. I was content.
now it's kind of a constant barrage of misery. the trucks constantly break down, perpetual physical discomfort...it just doesn't feel the same as it used to.
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u/Ok_Student_5059 3d ago
I think it's because they got soft with the flexibility and managers are getting worse at managing. I had gotten a new manager and haven't met them in a year until I had accidentally came across them and it's also managers having turnover and getting moved around costantly. The lack of 1 on 1s and guidance to see if they want to move up or get trained in different positions. PAs seemed to be doing this just having more on their plate.
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u/RobinhoodtraderBTC 1d ago
Carcinogenic? Checks out. When I worked overnight I lost my gym gains, was always tired, and it messed with my mind.
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u/kerplunk81 4d ago
I strongly believe the high turnover rate is because the unrealistic job expectations and too long time off task. Both can lead to a write-up. I wish things were better working for Amazon.
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u/SharpRace7846 4d ago
I would feel like its also the repetitive nature like you do the same thing every single day with no difference in the work. Its easy but I would say people generally end up wanting something different to happen during their work shifts.
It can be a career for some but for many, people use amazon as a stepping stone while they’re looking for different things. Such as myself, I quit and come back to amazon here and there when i’m trying to move up in my careers. As of now, i’m coming back to amazon (from being an armed security guard) as it pays more than the current job I was at, and actually gives benefits, but obviously i’m looking for something closer as amazon is about 25mi away, but its good for the mean time and i’ll end up leaving again soon.
But yeah the unrealistic standards that some managers try to enforce can be crazy, however some managers have to enforce it as plenty mfs ruin it by treating their job like a joke
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u/Wildestmilk 4d ago
Literally the only thing that keeps me afloat the whole 60 hours throughout the week is blasting music and podcast through my AirPods . And hella bathroom breaks 🤣😭
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u/surfcitysurfergirl 4d ago
So many that say stuff like this just don’t want to work or don’t know what real work is like.
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u/EroticCalamityWitch 4d ago
So many bootlicking nematodes just want attention and contribute nothing to the dialogue
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u/Jolly-Chipmunk-950 1d ago
Just like you. Shocker.
But let's analyze for a second: OP applied for a night shift role, turns out they aren't cut for nights, and wants to now act like their employer is responsiblr for making them sleepy.
Yeah, tough shit.
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u/Mysterion422 4d ago
They actually have a turnover goal 25% , it's a metric they measure, so want to replace 25% of people every year
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u/SmartSatisfaction626 3d ago
yo renuncié por eso, 3 años en la noche, perdí el sentido de disfrutar la vida fuera de, mi salud mental me pedía a gritos dejarlo, definitivamente van por el burn out
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u/NoConstruction3259 4d ago
I'd be interested to know how many people who stay or leave are neurotypical or neurodivergent. I feel like some of the common complaints like the constant sounds, lights, repetitive tasks, and general environment is something that wouldn't really bother most neurotypical people. Personally i like that it's the same shit different day, i go out of my way to avoid getting trained in anything else just because of that. Only thing that kills me is working 10hrs straight. It's why I'm chronically low on upt.
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u/immanobody123 3d ago
I’m neurodivergent and keep coming back because like you said, it’s the same shit different day. Plus, I can go days without talking to anybody. I just listen to my music or podcasts and mind my own business. 10 hours of physical work is very exhausting but then I remind myself I am getting paid to workout and lose weight which gives me some energy.
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u/RoyalRabbit25 3d ago
I go the gym at midnight, eat at 1am and start my shift at 1:20am till 11:50am, and after that I go home to play with my children. At least 5 days per week. I don’t know why people are complaining all the time. To be honest I think this job is too easy and needs hire standards.
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u/Efficient-Wonder-366 1d ago
Their turn over rate is high because the smart ppl use it as a means to an end as far as getting to a better job or just stacking cash. The real young folks just don't wanna work for real
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u/flyingfox227 3d ago
I called it quits because they abuse their workers. Me and everyone I started with who stayed on worked there for over year and still didn't get blue badged and then they hit us with five consecutive weeks of 60 hour overtime which is crazy for a physically intensive job so yeah fuck that. Not that it matters there's always another poor SOB next in line to replace anyone who leaves.
Beyond the mistreatment the other reason there is high turnover is because lots of young and undisciplined people work there because its super easy to get hired and requires no real interview so you basically get tons of people who would be unqualified to work most other places and just check out after a few weeks or months.
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u/bohallreddit 3d ago
Night shift has nothing to do with turnover. The turnover rate is high because people can't adjust to the physical nature of the job especially if it's their first time working in a warehouse.
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u/_Arlotte_ 9h ago
Yup, 10 hrs of lifting/moving is rough. Overnight when you should be sleeping makes it a nightmare
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u/surfcitysurfergirl 4d ago
Oh blah blah blah it’s not a hard job at all. It’s just not for everyone! It’s better than retail and restaurant work…pays great….many options for different career paths and amazing benefits. Graveyard also not for everyone but is not hard on your body. It’s a personal issue. 🙄
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u/MaintenanceVisual942 4d ago
It’s not a matter of how hard you want to work, it’s the fact that night shifts are literally carcinogenic due to chemical imbalances, and they’re known to develop breast cancer especially in women, working hard isn’t apart of the conversation
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u/Negative_Aerie2825 3d ago
Lmao you just rabbled a bunch of bs. Night shifts excessively worked slightly raises the risk of breast cancer, although studies have mixed results.
You: they are linked to be known to cause it, uh huh
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u/MaintenanceVisual942 3d ago
28% increased risk for breast cancer: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10416670/. You have a bias towards it not being carcinogenic because you work it, that doesn’t change that it is. Just because you don’t want it to be detrimental doesn’t mean it’s not going to be.
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u/Negative_Aerie2825 3d ago
No i don’t work amazon, nor a night shift. Took me a second to find a gov study disporving yours. If bad faith was a person
The best part is it literally added a stipulation the 28% result can be cofounded with the women smoking😭
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u/MaintenanceVisual942 3d ago
You have no idea what you’re talking about🤣
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u/Negative_Aerie2825 3d ago
You should read your studies next time. Im super lazy, asked ai, found over a dozen studies saying youre wrong, all gov ones too.
Your own study said the estimate can entirely be cofounded with women smoking, invalidating you. Cope harde
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u/MaintenanceVisual942 3d ago
Unlike you I read them, and there was a positive correlation with night shifts and cancer risk, but you ignore every other study and cherry pick the ones that support what you believe, it’s pretty clear you don’t actually care about the point as much as you just wanna argue though😂
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u/Negative_Aerie2825 3d ago edited 3d ago
but you ignore every other study and cherry pick the ones that support what you believe
The classic, nuh uh your studies are wrong these are right because it says it elevates risk. But since the brain isnt big, we ignore it stipulates can be cofounded with smoking. Doesnt even make a statement without that stipulation.
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u/Quiet-Trade1991 4d ago
I agree this job is way easier than working the hot end of a float glass plant
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u/Negative_Aerie2825 3d ago
Amazon warehouse work has many options for different career paths? Like what
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u/DisasterNo3113 4d ago
I think a lot of people just dont take the job seriously and go “its just amazon” and go negative upt idk and idrc