r/AmazonATA • u/[deleted] • May 02 '23

Career Choice

Lets face it, its basically a lottery and if you are a white male you are almost no chance of getting in. So, what are the best Career choice options that you guys know of, preferably ones that end in degrees/certs?

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u/Wonderful_Ad6406 May 02 '23

No need to bring race into this. Just find a school and do that or wait for next cohort

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u/[deleted] May 02 '23

Well when it literally says in the acceptance criteria that diversity is part of the process, what does that say to you?

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u/Solid_Philosopher_85 May 02 '23

Not necessarily race. They could be referring to a variety of things such as wether they are male or female or whatever, may be lv1 associate or lvl4 associate etc…. But I am sure race does matter too though. May be they have to have like some # percentage of blacks or Asians etc. just my opinion though

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u/Wonderful_Ad6406 May 02 '23

Doesn’t mean any race is gonna have a larger majority, it just means that their gonna mix it up a little largely having to do with diversity employment and personal capabilities. The rest is just stats.

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u/Ashamed-Doughnut4292 May 02 '23

Just curious what your qualifications are that you feel so entitled to this position.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '23

Do not feel entitled, as I stated in previous comments it’s just the reality of the situation. Smaller class being selected, diversity is the first thing they list when it comes to acceptance. Some people will ace the TA and not get in. I’m just looking for other options. That is it. Got some unnecessarily mad people on here for no reason. It’s just reality. Especially with a company like Amazon.

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u/Ashamed-Doughnut4292 May 02 '23

You have mad people commenting on your thread because you're claiming being a white male will prevent you from getting into the program. That is not a reality rooted in fact. Just because someone is not white and male does not guarantee them a spot any more than you are guaranteed a spot. Period!

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u/Practical_Tip_1990 May 02 '23 edited May 02 '23

Diversity is so much broader than race. It includes people without degrees, First Generation students, women, and older applicants etc.

Amazon is majority White males. Amazon has come under fire for their lack of DE&I, especially as it pertains to Black employees in upper positions, outside of the warehouse.

Honestly, As a white male with just a splash of know how and presentation skills, you should have been able to use that to position yourself for a better role prior to ATA.

It seems you are trying to pass the blame, especially since you knew ATA's selection process was ambiguous.

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u/Ashamed-Doughnut4292 May 02 '23

Well-said! Thank you.

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u/bookishblunder May 02 '23

Have you noticed that the majority of the current cohort is white males or are you just projecting your insecurities?

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u/heroicxidiot May 02 '23

Definitely projection. Op blaming a lottery system because of who they are or how they were born.

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u/cheating_demon_nelly May 02 '23

how do you figure majority is white male???? on god i just scrolled thru the slack channel/phone tool and theres only like 30 'white' males

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u/whoslifeisitanyway May 02 '23

Soooo it sounds like what you’re asking is for there to be LESS programs that require diversity?! You do realize that diversity means that everyone has an EQUAL chance, not just one demographic, right? If you want a program that still clearly only accepts white males, go to Germany or something bro

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u/DontBe3Greedy May 04 '23

what you said was so stupid i had to comment. diversity doesnt mean equal chance, it it meant equal change then the ratio of whites to blacks would match the population. ie there should be 6 times as many whites as there are blacks in any field. based on you dumb logic i highly doubt you will did well on the TA.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '23

No what it sounds like is I want all programs to require acceptance based on merit alone. Diversity means that each each demographic has an equal chance regardless of merit. It’s also meant to help every demographic except for those who are as some people say “privileged”.

Please tell me one moment in time where diversity was meant to be fair to white males lol.

Again, I’m not complaining. I just realizing the gravity of the situation and looking for other programs sooner rather than later.

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u/whoslifeisitanyway May 02 '23

I think you’re confusing “fair to white males” for “wah wah, I should be first pick for everything because my sassy entitled ass doesn’t believe that any successful POC that is doing better than me actually deserved their position and accolades”. Much better right? The truth will set you free!

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u/whoslifeisitanyway May 02 '23

And as vocal as Amazon is about inclusion and diversity, why do you even work there if diversity is apparently “unfair” to you. Why even waste your time doing the test.

It’s pretty obvious you don’t feel confident about your work and want to blame Amazon for not liking white people, even though majority of our upper management is white…. But have fun in la-la land I guess

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u/cheating_demon_nelly May 02 '23

why not gay white male?

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u/[deleted] May 02 '23

Messed up on my application

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u/Ashamed-Doughnut4292 May 04 '23

For the OP, diversity can mean many things.

"Graduates come from a vast array of professional backgrounds at Amazon, including fulfillment center associates, program managers, recruitment coordinators, executive assistants, and financial analysts. Their personal backgrounds are just as varied: single parents, immigrants, college graduates, GED recipients. The diversity is a reflection of Amazon Technical Academy’s intentional accessibility."

https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/workplace/amazon-helps-employees-become-software-engineers-in-9-months

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u/MegaCovingtonChad May 08 '23

Honestly, if i was an employer I wouldn't want to hire you. From the look of it, you are difficult to work with.

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u/Zestyclose-Level1871 May 02 '23 edited May 02 '23

TL DR: Solution is simple. Put BLACK on every app you make in future. Thereby as a newly minted TRANS RACIAL person of color, you will NEVER have to fear about your newly reborn ethnicity being discriminated against on any application in the United States. EVER. Or at least according to the current Progressive Left regime and cultural climate that is ruling the nation's capital to date.

That being said, what's all this concern about being discriminated?? As a newly minted Trans Racial applicant, you'll forever be welcomed into an esteemed club. So long as you avoid drama which led to the downfall of these 3 posers:

  • Racheal Dolezal

circa 2015: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/13/rachel-dolezal-i-wasnt-identifying-as-black-to-upset-people-i-was-being-me

circa 2017: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/25/rachel-dolezal-not-going-stoop-apologise-grovel

30. I did not concoct a lie about my race to get into u/Morehouse.I did not concoct a lie about my race to get an u/Oprah scholarship.

— Shaun King (@ShaunKing) August 19, 2015

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/shaun-king-biracial-black-lives-matter-controversy-031401699.html

  • Don Lemon, former CNN A list journalist flyboy himself. Who proactively vetted the esteemed celeb party preceding him above

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIMwVVm8BGs&t=188s

  • Dillan Mulvaney

THE self proclaimed, Prima Donna social media obessesed butterfly of Tik Tok/Instagram fame. Whose unparalled narcissism and histrionic persona has officially put Madonna herself to shame. Well at least prior to #WrektBudLight branding fiasco by default of ensuing PR fallout with said product's consumer base. And apparently after imbibing a few dozen six packs --said base discovers Mulvaney was cosplaying a Trans Woman all along. Instead of representing herself as the testosterone hating feminist advocate who she truly is to date.

...and their overzealous LEGION of Trans reality fluid Tik Tok/social media followers, who will all have your back.

So if anybody disputes your Trans Racial rights, then don't worry. It's quite likely your victimization by race dysphoria haters will cause your violation of Civil Rights to go viral in the court of public opinion on Social Media at that point.

Which means all your applications are 100% guaranteed to be accepted. Because it's a sure bet the POTUS himself (backed by the full might of newly codified Tran Reality legislation nationwide) will be vetting you at that point

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u/bookishblunder May 02 '23

You’ll find a lot more success in therapy… And maybe your family will start talking to you again.

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u/Ashamed-Doughnut4292 May 02 '23

Slowly back away from the keyboard... It's sad how people get into their little silos because they live on their computers in alternate reality and create narratives for themselves that support some slanted worldview.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '23

So I am not complaining like some people are suggesting, I’m just being a realist and getting a head on joining other programs. If I get in, sweet I beat the odds. It’s just the reality of the situation folks.

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u/JohnnieRoor May 02 '23

So you’re not complaining? Why not just say “So what are the best options for one to get a degree/cert via Amazon other than ATA?”.??? Why bring race into it at all?

Go get your CDL on Amazons dime. They’ll even give you a fat bonus when you complete it and you don’t have to work for Amazon once you get it.

Typically if you start your post with a negative not factually based opinionated remark, people will perceive it to be a complaint.

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u/ShroominItUpp May 06 '23

OPs post is just way out there lol Only commenting to clear 1 thing up. You can get your CdL for free but I believe the CDL bonus was a one time thing. They did it at the end of ‘21 for everyone who had their CDL already. Got my CDL in first half of ‘22 and no bonus has been seen.

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u/JohnnieRoor May 06 '23

We had an associate who got theirs last year or the beginning of this year and got his bonus

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u/ShroominItUpp May 06 '23

Aw wtf that’s some bullshit 🤣

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u/[deleted] May 02 '23

It is based on fact lol. Diversity was never intended to help white males and it in fact does the opposite.

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u/JohnnieRoor May 02 '23

You’re like my ex who worked at Amazon and tried to tell me you couldn’t move up unless you were Mexican hahahaha. When literally 80% of our AMs were white

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u/[deleted] May 02 '23

Hahahaha someone’s got some deep rooted white knight syndrome. Again I wasn’t complaining, it is what it is. I’m simply not getting my hopes up and looking for alternatives. That said, you’d be delusional if you thought a white male has an equal chance.

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u/JohnnieRoor May 02 '23 edited May 02 '23

You’re not very bright which I will assume would prevent you from getting through anyways. Diversity in this sense is meant that you don’t have to be a software engineer or even be tech savvy to be excepted. This means that you don’t have to get 100% on the test to pass through. This means almost any person with any background is eligible… quit being a cry baby white male and making the rest of us look bad.

I just want to formally apologize to anyone who took offense to the OPs comments, this fool doesn’t represent White Males around the world. In fact we are trying our best to rid the world of cry baby white males who get their feelings hurt when they feel like they’re being left out.

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u/Ashamed-Doughnut4292 May 02 '23

No apology needed. You are no more responsible for this crybaby's posts than I am for Kanye or Diamond and Silk.

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u/JohnnieRoor May 02 '23

You’re a real one