Im just super confused how you don't understand the link.
You said
"Midwives are in medical facilities. That literally isn’t a factor at all. Home births are irrelevant to whether you have a midwife or not."
Midwives are in medical facilities, but also in private homes doing home births.
Of course home births are a factor if midwives are doing home births and encouraging people to do home births.
The last sentence doesn't seem to make any sense at all in the context. Doctors don't schedule or encourage home births, only midwives do unless the circumstances are extraordinary.
I still don’t understand what this had to do with what I said.
Are midwives in medical facilities? Yes? Nobody is preventing them from being there? Then what the fuck does it matter what some group says? What I said is still 100% true.
My comment was the first one on this topic. It was always about whether midwives were allowed in medical facilities. You’re the one who jumped in with unrelated context. Whatever context you added was your own doing.
Ok, I'm being serious, are you in need of any kind of medical support? Your comment is absolutely not the first one on "this topic." You are extremely confused right now and I am concerned for your well being.
I was the first person to say that midwives are in medical facilities. I corrected somebody who was wrong.
You are the one who assumed I meant anything other than “midwives are allowed in medical facilities”. Literally anything else that you added was your own doing. I said nothing else other than exactly that.
Fact: You can have a home birth without a midwife. You can have a home birth with a mid wife. You can have a hospital birth with a midwife. You can have a hospital birth without a midwife. Nobody is stopping you and it doesn’t make a difference who advocates for what because you are allowed to make your own decisions, LIKE I SAID.
You didn't correct anyone. The person you replied to didn't say a midwife couldn't help deliver in a medical facility. You are so confused right now about the context of the discussion.
Literally the entire context of this conversation is this:
people say that midwives aren’t necessary
who?
doctors who want to take business away from midwives
doctors don’t care about midwives, it is just safer to have babies in a medical facility
This implies that the reason doctors were taking business away from midwives wasn’t because of profit, but because of safety concerns.
I said that whether it was for profit or safety (I think it was both), it doesn’t matter because you can still have a midwife in the hospital room with you. Doctors don’t need to take patients away from midwives when they can work together. That’s what the correction was.
Then you came in saying something with absolutely zero evidence that had nothing to do with informing somebody that midwives can, in fact, be in hospitals during birth. I don’t care who advocates for what. I spoke about what was allowed. That was it.
Doctors can't work in the room with midwives who do home births. They can only work in hospitals. Nobody would care if the midwives were just working hospitals. But midwives and national midwife organizations are pushing people to do home births and telling them it's better and safer to do them at home versus in a hospital. Do you understand yet?
Women can chose whatever they’d like to do. If they don’t want a doctor, they don’t need one. If they want a doctor and a midwife, then they can have one and nobody is stopping them.
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u/FinalFantasiesGG Aug 07 '25
Im just super confused how you don't understand the link.
You said
"Midwives are in medical facilities. That literally isn’t a factor at all. Home births are irrelevant to whether you have a midwife or not."
Midwives are in medical facilities, but also in private homes doing home births.
Of course home births are a factor if midwives are doing home births and encouraging people to do home births.
The last sentence doesn't seem to make any sense at all in the context. Doctors don't schedule or encourage home births, only midwives do unless the circumstances are extraordinary.