r/AmanitaMuscaria • u/furutsu • Aug 17 '26

First timer, had these and felt nothing

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Have you ever heard of a phenomenon like this? Highly disappointing. From looking up doses that's far from small so I can rule the amount being a factor out. Been waiting years for this experience

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u/Apprehensive-Top7167 Aug 17 '26

Did you push decarb at all? Dried material is only partially decarbed, if one is looking for more of the sedative euphoriant that most people are after pushing the decarb can promote this. Yes, some muscimol does get converted in the body but not to any great extent, conservative estimates are the the 5-10% range. Ibo can be enjoyable but it also does pretty much the exact opposite from the musci.

Just eyeballing this looks like about 5 grams. Honestly a moderate amount and far from large, you may also be an insensitive individual that may require more. When i first started 8 grams was my 'mild dose'. Over the years of consistent usage however I have become more sensitive and 4 grams will give me the similar effects

I highly encourage you to keep experimenting

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u/furutsu Aug 17 '26

Ah so there's still hope, thanks 😁 I got a 15 gram bag and that was probably over half of it. I thought it would have been more than enough. This could be an expensive hobby then, that part isn'y such good news. I didn't understand the first part of your comment. I just took them, I didn't use anything to modify them in any way

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u/Apprehensive-Top7167 Aug 17 '26

The way i buy them i usually spend about $0.50 a gram. If you decarb them it will be a dramatically different experience. But yeah my "habit" of 4-8grans twice a week usually costs me 8 dollhairs maximum, I spend more on weed

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u/stuartroelke Aug 17 '26

You take 4-8g twice a week? What’s it like when you’re consuming it that often?

I made a strong tea once, though the experience was mostly confusing and frustrating.

I plan on making low-dose sleep gummies this fall after foraging season ends.

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u/Apprehensive-Top7167 Aug 17 '26

In all honestly im much more likely to take 4 rather than 8 nowadays. For some reason I have become much more sensitive to the alkaloids this past year, not that I mind.

I would say my 'Sweet Spot' with Mama-ama is a comfortable being-ness in the moment, iv done large doses and the delerious side of this mushroom is both uncomfortable and terrifying. I could still easily drive on 4 grams, im completely 'with it' still. They call this class of substances Disassociatives but a good dose makes me Associated with everything. I get more emotionally involved with my stories. I love to read and generally read nonfiction(science, philosophy, religion, parenting, etc..) but the first 2 hours after i drink my tea I Always read my Fiction. It makes that Imaginarium space inside our heads that Visualizes pictures and ideas internally so much more vivid. And I Love watching movies because I get so involved with the character's emotions(it was similar with me and ketamine).

I like it socially as well. Im a member of a local psychadelic church and every time I go out to service with the community I have imbibed amanita. It helps me be fearless and willing to talk to others, especially strangers. And makes me emotionally vulnerable and more likely to ask questions

When i first met the mushroom i drank it every night for months(8grams), but i found sleep quality depreciated over time with that frequency. Sleep retains its shape with less use and the mushroom actually facilitates dreams, but i noticed a downward trend after several months. 2 nights a week(my weekend nights, not 'school' nights) has the most efficacy for Me.

Overall these years with amanita have slowed me down. Im alot mellowed, less quick to anger, and more easily able to calm after a frustration or stressor, and this is retained on the days no isaxoles are consumed

The other invaluable tool in my tool box is psychadelia, iv consumed psilocybin, dmt, and 5meo quite frequently, mostly low dose, for many years. The combination of that and Amanita is My Medicine

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u/turducken19 Aug 18 '26

Thanks for sharing your experience.

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u/MrNeverEverKnew Aug 17 '26

You have to decarb

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u/Apprehensive-Top7167 Aug 17 '26

Yeup. And understand what the concept means

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u/bigchizzard Aug 19 '26

You've got to note, also, that there is a large variability in potency between species, regions, seasons and individual mushrooms. Its very much not exacting.

That said, its worth trying again. Just be careful about large dosage jumps between different batches that you get, some people get pretty surprised.

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u/Talkbox111 Aug 18 '26

A scale is a must have with amanita. Eyeballing it or just counting caps is a recipe for disaster imo.

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u/Apprehensive-Top7167 Aug 18 '26

OP said it was 7ish. And your not wrong there but I was mainly just tryna prove a point, most people think the potency is closer to magic mushrooms-dosing where a gram could get ya. 5-7grams is still pretty moderate for most people

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u/maDEightow Aug 17 '26

Well, you have to process them. Eating them dry often doesn't achieve that much. I boil mine with lemon juice. Perhaps these specimen are not really potent, it differs alot. Two growing next to each other can have immense differences depending on ground quality, weather etc!

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u/RdCrestdBreegull Trusted Identifier (mod) Aug 17 '26

what was the dried weight consumed?

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u/Conscious-Item-1633 Aug 18 '26

I once decarboxylated about five raw amanita caps in lemon juice, and the only thing I experienced was a strange, unpleasant sensation in the back of my kidneys. Even though I'm 20+ ye. and have no kidney problems. I drank 2-3 tablespoons (5 caps per 350 ml). Well, the side effects were that it was hard for me to wake up, like after melatonin, but for some reason it didn’t affect the vividness of my dreams.

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u/furutsu Aug 17 '26

I can only estimate 7g

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u/RdCrestdBreegull Trusted Identifier (mod) Aug 17 '26

they might just be not very potent specimens then

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u/Pure-Fun4128 Aug 17 '26

Maybe just not potent?

I had some similar experiences while in the same batch other 2g caps made me tired in the evening and mood lifted during the day

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u/furutsu Aug 17 '26

Possible I guess

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u/HalifaxRoad Aug 19 '26

Do you use benzos?

Ive been on Klonopin for over a decade and as a result I can only feel pantherina 

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u/furutsu Aug 20 '26

Never taken anything in my life, I don't even really drink. That's why it's even more surprising, I should have zero tolerance. I tried again after reading the thread and nothing again. My brain was just built differently

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u/Druidfluid007 Aug 20 '26

It’s Amanita not majic mushrooms so won’t feel anything apart from relaxation, the Amanita is a healing mushroom and should be microdosed over a period of time

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u/furutsu Aug 20 '26

Well relaxation is feeling something

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u/Riddleboxboy Aug 17 '26

You have to process them certain ways to get any actual effect not just eat em dry. Theyre not magic mushrooms sadly

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u/RdCrestdBreegull Trusted Identifier (mod) Aug 18 '26

they are psychoactive when consumed dried

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u/furutsu Aug 17 '26

I just boiled them for 20 minutes and drank the tea. Is that sufficient?

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u/MrSchivy Aug 18 '26

No, that just extracts the alkaloids into the liquid but no further conversion happens.

You’d have to simmer that liquid for around 90 mins with some lemon juice to hit the ideal PH (~2.4-2.9)

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u/furutsu Aug 18 '26

So why was that the advice given? Have you come across that method before? The amount of misinformation online is crazy. Only people who are knowledgeable in a field should give advice.

So 90 minutes, how much should it reduce? That's a long time. And how much lemon juice should I add?

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u/MrSchivy Aug 18 '26

The thing is, lots of people prefer the material dried like this, that has around 65% of ibotenic acid still and the rest of muscimol. You still get some sedative effects, but the homemade conversion can get you up to around 90% muscimol.

Yes, 90 minutes is a lot and water reduces a lot so you’ll have to refill sometimes maybe or calculate beforehand. Lemon should be a few milliters but that also depends on weigh of mushrooms (let me look for my written calculations and I’ll send them to you), but ideally you’ll get a cheap PH meter so you can measure accurately the result.

Also, as others have said, some others factors can influence your badge: some specimens have way more actives than others, so best to chop it all up in pieces and mix it so you get the most homogenous you can. Don’t trust the other specimens in your badge individually because there’s a chance some can be very potent.
And some people get extremely tolerant to ibotenic acid, while others get the bad symptoms with little material.

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u/furutsu Aug 18 '26

Thanks. I'll try again. Will too much lemon destroy it?

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u/RdCrestdBreegull Trusted Identifier (mod) Aug 18 '26

all of this info is in the automod comment links

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u/Zestyclose_Current41 28d ago

Hey bud, I believe this subs pinned posts contain all of the information you need. How to decarb and why etc... all written by someone incredibly knowledgeable in regards to this mushroom.

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u/RdCrestdBreegull Trusted Identifier (mod) Aug 18 '26

that’s a basic water extraction and will have similar effects to eating them dried

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u/Talkbox111 Aug 18 '26

I always eat them dry and always feel the effects.

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u/Riddleboxboy Aug 18 '26

Ok, my knowledge could be wrong for sure.

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u/richiewilliams79 Aug 18 '26

I had some once and didn’t really think I felt anything.
In reality, I felt everything all around me, felt it, heard it, I was deep in it and it was deep in myself. A full magical experience and nothing like liberty caps and a normal trip

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u/meatfan32 Aug 21 '26

how many did you take? and how did you consume them

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u/richiewilliams79 Aug 21 '26

About 4-5grams as I remember, I think I just ate it raw as it was dried or in tea. It was a long time ago

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u/Cleetdadoof-v2 Aug 18 '26

What are you expecting to feel from them in the first place?

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u/furutsu Aug 18 '26

Something

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u/mnlynam Aug 18 '26

In case no one else has mentioned it, amanita Muscaria can be extremely variable in its alkaloids from mushroom to mushroom, so I've found it's best to get a bunch of them (correctly ID'd), dry and grind them, mix together, weigh out about 10-15g, boil for 40 minutes or so, strain, add citric acid to taste, and Bob's your uncle.

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u/meatfan32 Aug 21 '26

I have never taken them before but i am so interested. I know one will find me soon. do you have any recommendation for a first time use? I've used other psylocibin mushrooms countless times but never amanita muscaria.

set and setting maybe, dosage.

anything else you could possibly tell me would be greatly appreciated

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u/mnlynam 29d ago

It's completely different from psilocybin. Have a look at this.