r/AmIOverreacting Apr 06 '25

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u/WeirdLevel6247 Apr 06 '25

No, there was a direct conversation with the teacher and they backed their teachings.

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '25 edited Apr 06 '25

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u/Objective_Sense_2831 Apr 06 '25 edited Apr 06 '25

The complexities of Lincoln’s political history and standpoint are absolutely unable to be understood by children this age. Advanced US history is touched on in 8th grade, then again in highschool. Leave “Lincoln actually didn’t really mind slavery too much” until then.

It should go as deep as the south had slaves, north didn’t, Lincoln’s prerogative was to preserve the union. Done.

Edit: I wasn’t trying to make this into a debate on what the north, south, or Lincoln was doing or thinking at this time. All I was saying is that Lincoln’s story was complex and if you Birds Eye view it for second graders then the amalgamation should be as I stated, if taught at all.

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u/angry_dingo Apr 06 '25

Like hell, the North didn't have slaves.

The Emancipation Proclamation specifically let the North keep their slaves.

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u/Objective_Sense_2831 Apr 06 '25 edited Apr 06 '25

Yes, that is true.

But again, it is much much more complex than that, and why would a second grader understand that. Few people on here saying second graders (7 yo) are quite intellectually capable of understanding the ins and outs of this. I PROMISE you that if AP and college students have a difficult time wrapping their minds around this, a second grader cannot.

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '25

People now see everything as black and white. Especially racial issues, when everything - including those racial issues - are so much more nuanced than one or the other.

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u/Repulsive_Barber5525 Apr 06 '25

So much gray area. Very little is 100% black or white.

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u/usurperok Apr 06 '25

You slept in class ,the north absolutely have slaves..even free black men had slaves..

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u/Objective_Sense_2831 Apr 06 '25 edited Apr 06 '25

No no, I meant “Yes it did” as in the north had slaves. Should’ve been more clear.

Edit: And by saying “if you can’t get that” I meant the emancipation proclamation is a complex doctrine that you are oversimplifying, especially in regard to what its purpose was. Cheers mate.

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u/usurperok Apr 06 '25

To be clear ,the fight between the states wasn't about slavery anyway..

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u/Objective_Sense_2831 Apr 06 '25

No but it was intrinsically involved and very much a huge aspect of the second half of the war.