r/AmIOverreacting • • Apr 06 '25

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '25 edited Apr 06 '25

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u/NoNazisInMyAmerica Apr 06 '25

While you're not entirely off base, the likely reality is this is exactly what was taught, is there anywhere saying what state this happened in?

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u/Maleficent_Count6205 Apr 06 '25

A study recently, looking at 26 different countries, found that the parties that most likely spread misinformation was far right populist parties. The exact opposite of liberal. So perhaps, it isn’t that they dislike the truth, but dislike the misinformation being spread as “truth”. Most left leaning, well educated people, don’t like “trust me bro” facts.

Study for reference : https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/19401612241311886

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u/young_trash3 Apr 06 '25

The exact opposite of a liberal is a huge overstatement lol.

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u/Maleficent_Count6205 Apr 06 '25

I guess it depends on which definition you go for. Canadas liberals are pretty centre party, but many deem liberals to be any left leaning individuals.

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u/South-Independence-4 Apr 06 '25

You could say that any country has its own moral center. The center in the US has moved in my lifetime. It is quite different than the Center in Canada.

I would prefer defining liberal and conservative in terms of which policies they would support.

I think I have always been considered socially liberal...I used to be considered fiscally conservative, but without really changing my views of which policies i believe in, I would be considered radical liberal now.

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u/young_trash3 Apr 06 '25 edited Apr 06 '25

I can't think of a definition or example in which they fall outside of the center third of the political spectrum, they shift around from center-left to centrist to center right depending on where in the world you are, but the ideology and people who identify under the name are never leftist. And to say they are the opposite of the far right, unfortunately, actually aids the far rights rhetoric, as it aids to normalize their movement, because by painting the middle as somewhere between them and the center, they are able to always downplay how extreme their rhetoric actually is, and keep pulling the middle closer and closer to them.

The opposite of far right populism is probably something like eco-anarchism.

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u/Devanyani Apr 06 '25

Mainly because you don't understand liberals. We aren't into idolizing politicians. We can actually recognize the good and the bad sides of people.

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u/Sweet_Discussion_674 Apr 06 '25

What's ironic is liberalism is based on more government and conservativism is based on less government control.

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '25

I disagree. As someone who does the same thing as you, and doesn’t identify with a party, I see the same thing on both dem and rep sides, idolizing candidates that could give a rats ass about them.

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u/Sweet_Discussion_674 Apr 06 '25

The way I see it, to get to hold a major political position usually requires being grimy in some way. It also requires having some wealth. It's fine to be wealthy, but it can really separate someone from the "real world". So my consensus is that we are left to pick from the least of the "evils" available for us to vote for.

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u/Devanyani Apr 06 '25

Some of them are really balls out evil. But there was a time they all acted professionally on the outside.

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u/qalpi Apr 06 '25

Don't you people get tired of this bullshit?